Blizzard will soon be ditching PC-exclusivity..
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Why should this be a hit for PC-Gamers?
Diablo as a franchise can work well on a console.
Starcraft and WoW wouldn't. So unless Blizzard has plans to unearth the lost vikings, there is no way Blizzard as a developer will pursue a "let's get everything onto consoles"-Agenda.
I'm a PC-Gamer and contrary to popular belief I don't dislike other people playing with the same toys I use. What I dislike is being treated like a second-class-customer with horrible adapations for games to a PC. With Diablo the phenomenon will likely reverse itself and hit console players, because diablo 2 was button-tastic, which should be hard to pull off on a console.
(Given the rumors are true. If it isn't confirmed, it isn't confirmed. Just because blizzard is hiring some console-guy, it doesn't mean anything. Maybe they want one to work on the interfaces design, to make it more appealing to people, who only played console-games before. Or maybe they want him to count their money.)
Diablo as a franchise can work well on a console.
Starcraft and WoW wouldn't. So unless Blizzard has plans to unearth the lost vikings, there is no way Blizzard as a developer will pursue a "let's get everything onto consoles"-Agenda.
I'm a PC-Gamer and contrary to popular belief I don't dislike other people playing with the same toys I use. What I dislike is being treated like a second-class-customer with horrible adapations for games to a PC. With Diablo the phenomenon will likely reverse itself and hit console players, because diablo 2 was button-tastic, which should be hard to pull off on a console.
(Given the rumors are true. If it isn't confirmed, it isn't confirmed. Just because blizzard is hiring some console-guy, it doesn't mean anything. Maybe they want one to work on the interfaces design, to make it more appealing to people, who only played console-games before. Or maybe they want him to count their money.)
How could they lose something they never had in the first place?V8 Ninja said:
Their very first game was the SNES port of RPM Racing.
That's probably not the best example to bring up - those games have terrible mouse+keyboard controls. They were designed with controllers in mind, even FFXIV (which, unlike 11, actually launched on the PC).Garak73 said:
I was under the impression that the work was largely being done by a third party (Nihilistic if memory serves) anyhow.Aeshi said:
But, I'm not sure if Starcraft Ghost is the right sort of FPS if my use of Ghosts says anything as my own use of Ghosts tends to fall into one of these categories:
Last Ditch Base Defense (if I throw ghosts at the problem I lost the game a long time ago and I'm just stalling)
Late game resource harassment (detector gaps mean you can often take a chunk out of harvesters before the problem can be resolved)
Area Denial (Nuclear weapons launched to blanket the area and likely routes of travel of the enemy)
Defense Busting (Nuclear weapons designed to punch a hole for follow on forces to exploit).
Most of those rely on the fact that a ghost can cloak.
Really, I think that Starcraft would be better served if they just generally followed the exploits of a Terran in general. We know that a power-armored man can pilot at least one kind of Terran vehicle (even if that vehicle is the largest in the Wings of Liberty Campaign). We can assume that a guy who can use the standard marine armor can probably also use a firebat suit (they are quite similar after all). From this we could generally assume that a Terran marine could reasonably use most of the smaller Terran weapons and whatnot. By contrast, it would seem that a game involving a Ghost would simply be a lot of sneaking about and shooting people with sniper rifles which isn't a lot of fun. Nothing stops the above from applying to a ghost of course, but I can't help but assume that I'd, at more than one point, stop and consider just how silly it would be for command to be sending a Ghost to frontline assault duty when I'm clearly a special forces assassin.
Why are you so certain it's going to happen? The removal of LAN is stupid, yeah, but BNET 2.0 is fantastic piece of software, it works brilliantly. There's no evidence whatsoever that Blizzard will be gimping games for consoles, just that they'll be developing them.Garak73 said:
Blizzard are smart enough to realise that games don't need 'dumbing down' to work on consoles, all it would take to bring D3 to consoles is clever use of a control scheme for a gamepad, nothing else has to be changed or gimped at all. As I said, the PC is clearly the primary platform for D3, so there's no reason other than pessimism to think Blizzard will go down that road.
The engine is almost 12 years old now. That's like saying "Oh well you know, the Painkiller engine looks better than the Build engine" It's a completely different platform, they're pushing the engines limits, which isn't necessarily poorly coded, they're forcing the engine to do things they didn't initially design it to do, coded as well as it possibly can be without a complete engine rewrite. It'll cause unexpected issues, slow downs, and almost obscene amounts of resources. Considering all that, they've done a damn fine job with it.Garak73 said:
Not that surprisingGalaxy613 said:
Blizzard have been talking about console development for a long time, the only reason Starcraft Ghost was never finished was because Blizzard felt it did not meet their quality bar
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102933-Blizzard-Diablo-Would-Be-Easiest-Port-To-Consoles
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/blizzard-on-consoles-maybe-we-will-go-that-way/
It very well could, but the resources the pushed engine uses are far beyond what a 360 can handle. they'd have to turn off many of the added on features. It's not the fact that the engine's old, or necessarily cludgy. It's just pushed beyond it's limits, and has no easy way to do things. Think of it like sewing by hand vs sewing with a machine. One's just stepping on a pedal to do -all- the hand motions. the WC3 engine does not own a sewing machine. So it has to make due with the processes it knows how to do, and the new tricks blizzard tries to teach it.Garak73 said:
Look at some of the Doom mods that push the id tech 1 engine. They can look great, dynamic lighting, high resolution textures, even 3D models. However, they push the engine to such limits (and it does hit a ceiling) that it hogs all sorts of resources that a current generation engine wouldn't need to use.
I guess basically yes, if it was a current engine, it would be inefficient, but for how old it is, it's efficient in what it does.
