Blizzard: WoW Won't Be Going Free-To-Play
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In Blizzards defense they never really did say what kind of quality so they aren't lying. Although I did have a good laugh at that statement.FelixG said:
When did this 'decline' start happening? Because I feel I've missed something, I realise that they've lost 700,000 subscribers out of the 11 million they had, but to me that doesn't scream 'deline'.
I've heard the occasional person make a passing claim that Cata wasn't to their taste, but that isn't 'decline'.
Blizzard is not in the position to go into F2P territory and likely won't be for several years.
Their game practically estalished the standardfor it's market and is still a major player.
With their subscription based model they're in a position to create more content at increasing quality, sure some of their decisions have missed the mark slightly but there's never beenanything as damning as what some people claim.
I've heard the occasional person make a passing claim that Cata wasn't to their taste, but that isn't 'decline'.
Blizzard is not in the position to go into F2P territory and likely won't be for several years.
Their game practically estalished the standardfor it's market and is still a major player.
With their subscription based model they're in a position to create more content at increasing quality, sure some of their decisions have missed the mark slightly but there's never beenanything as damning as what some people claim.
Exactly, also WoW is showing its age, its going to be gone soon from everything else.EverythingIncredible said:
And I can't wait till Guild Wars 2, early next year I hope.
You'd be surprised, most vets of WoW are basically done with the game, just waiting for something SIMILAIR enough to come along while wanting something with quality.Archemetis said:
Not all vets, but most.
Not saying this to sound like an arse but go back and recheck your numbers.Archemetis said:
At the start of Cataclysm they released sub numbers as 12.5 million.
Now the numbers are at 10 - 11 million.
Thats a loss of 1.5 - 2.5 million.
They lost a hell of a lot of subs this past year and they say the numbers are still going down albeit more slowly now.
Huh... well I don't see them giving in, WoW isn't ever going to die and its not like its going to be there only source of cash considering the real world money options in Dibalo 3 and the fact that they freaking have project Titan sitting in the wings.
Yes, they're so incompetent to still have complete dominance over the market and many millions of subscribers with a game so old.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
Seriously, WoW is old. It's a good game, but its continued success after all these years exceeds everyone's expectations, even their own. I don't play anymore because the game got old to me, so I prefer to play something entirely new than a revamped one I already played to death. It's no fault of the game, though.
As for changing the game, if Blizzard had changed nothing people would be crying that they didn't change, and if they try new things people complain they're changing a good game. It's no use trying to appease everyone.
isn't this an oxymoron?Mike Kayatta said:
just one? how about three
City of Heroes
DDO
Vindictus, if you really wanna drive the dagger in
all 3 are 'pixel to pixel' better, in the literal sense, all are also F2P, and two have content i hold about anything WoW has done, ever.
the third just has great combat
i like bosses to be a challenge of skill, not a fucking MATH problem.but really this doesn't surprise me, and by the time they do pull their heads out of their asses it'll be to late. GW2 isn't the only MMO coming out with more emphasis on action, there's TERA, Blade and Soul, Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium, donno how many will be good, but we're moving away from hotkeys and subscriptions. and while they have the sale NOW to justify keeping subs, its coming up fast on the time to ether adapt to whats coming or get left behind, like the relic they are
Gabe Newell Disagrees [http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell].Mike Kayatta said:
And I think he knows a little more about charging prices for digital items pal, because he invented it! And then he perfected it so no living man could best him in the ring of digital distribution!
F2P inspires countless people to try a game and be hooked, increasing its profit. With WoW EVERYONE has already tried it, and taken a whack at being hooked. It's not about quality, it's about maximizing profit. WoW made the logical decision here, but it doesn't reflect on quality.
No, not really. But this is the internet, where hating something popular is very popular in itself.Archemetis said:
Many people have simply played it too much already and more content or cosmetic changes won't appeal again. I know that's my case. But I still think it's a good and very fun game for people relatively new to it.
However, if a truly good new MMO comes out, I can see it attracting a lot of current and former WoW players. I wouldn't call the death of WoW too early though.
I can say with certainty that just because an MMO is free to play doesn't mean it's bad quality.
It's like having the best chef with the best sources and ingredients in the world was to make you a thimbleful of peas, it might be really really good but you're still gonna be hungry afterwards.
Well to be fair most of it is pretty good quality, it's just that there isn't enough of it.FelixG said:
It's like having the best chef with the best sources and ingredients in the world was to make you a thimbleful of peas, it might be really really good but you're still gonna be hungry afterwards.
Why would it go free to play? It has millions of slaves and makes money hand over fist! If anything, they should probably triple their subscription fee! Honestly, one of the main reasons every other MMO in the universe had to go F2P was because of WoW. You can't compete with WoW for subscription users.
Personally, I find that F2P games are really hit or miss. I had a pretty good experience with F2P games like Vindictus and DDO. However, I played City of Heroes for 5 years as subscription and its new F2P model is a nightmare. It actually costs much more to get access to the same content you did as a subscriber. Whenever I see a game go F2P, I just take it to mean I am stepping into a pay to win, free for all gougefest. At least with subscriptions, its all even.
Personally, I find that F2P games are really hit or miss. I had a pretty good experience with F2P games like Vindictus and DDO. However, I played City of Heroes for 5 years as subscription and its new F2P model is a nightmare. It actually costs much more to get access to the same content you did as a subscriber. Whenever I see a game go F2P, I just take it to mean I am stepping into a pay to win, free for all gougefest. At least with subscriptions, its all even.
