Blockbuster Defends Used Games

viranimus

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Yeah, this is exactly what ive been saying here over the past couple of years. Blockbuster, IS a part of the gaming industry, Just like gamestop, just like smaller specialty stores, just like walmart, amazon, ect. These are just the guys who have taken a serious beating over the past couple of years thanks to the rise of digital distribution and the consumers who for all their good intentions of wanting to help the developers and publishers, and stop the evil gamestop from hurting their entertainment really have helped give these people the clout and methodology of choking out parts of the industry that dont return their profits to them.

Its sad, and yes I have elected for a blockbuster movie pass specifically so I can rent games and movies. Blockbuster might have been that same "evil" that people now see gamestop as, but they never were and they have only suffered despite offering a service made necessary by media companies charging too much for their media.
 

Owyn_Merrilin

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Ah, ye olde "run by a terrifying man with a beard" gameshop. They're still around, they're just for tabletop games[footnote]As they always have been, unless you count a skinny 30 year old with a goatee as a "terrifying man with a beard."[/footnote]. And don't be terrified; he's usually a teddy bear, not a dire bear. Usually.

OT: I just find it sad that this is even an issue. This is the result of standing by and letting a corporation say we don't own what we pay for, just because they can pay lawyers. It's also a sign that our legal system is seriously screwed up that this can happen; no laws have changed, we've just had some well paid lawyers convince some aging judges that the law said something other than what it said. That should not happen.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Yep, that sounds about right. Maybe if they scaled back their budget a bit and started focusing on game mechanics as opposed to top-tier graphics it wouldn't even be a problem.

Captcha: good riddance

Heh.
 

Fasckira

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I like Blockbusters; they're literally 5 minutes drive from me, they give me good prices when I trade games in and their second hand titles are typically reasonably priced with some good offers (the whole 2 for £20 and so on).
The guys who work there are, for the majority, gamers. You can have a chat with them and they're pretty forthcoming with helping you find any games that they don't have on the shelves. I appreciate that's kind of their job but they genuinely seem to want to help.
 

Kahani

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Grey Carter said:
Without the second-hand market, there's no way for specialized game stores to survive.
That's not really much of a defence. "If these mechanical looms take over, there's no way for artisan weavers to survive.". Absolutely correct, there isn't. What's missing is the important part to make it an actual defence "... and that would be a bad thing because...". There's a reason "Luddite" is now generally considered a negative term. All I'm reading here is that if people don't have a reason to visit a particular shop, that shop will go out of business. So what? If people don't have a reason to visit that shop, why should anyone care that it goes out of business?
 

JWRosser

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I use Blockbuster a lot. It would be a real shame for them, and the second hand market, to go.

There needs to be second hand games.
People don't want to pay £40 for a game that they don't know if they'll like. Renting is a great way to test, or play a game, that you otherwise wouldn't try. For example, I've rented and played Sonic Generations, Operation Raccoon City, Force Unleashed 2 etc. The latter two especially aren't particularly good games, but I wanted to play them, but not spend all the money, which I think is fair, seeing as once I'd finished with them...I'd finished with them. Furthermore, my housemate and I enjoy playing shitty coop games and recording it. That wouldn't happen if we had to fork out £20+ each time for a game that we're going to play once.

Also, some games are hard to come by new.
 
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omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
if you are happy with only the top 20 for each platform, then you wont need them.
 

Kiardras

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Make games worth the money and most people will buy them. Yes, you will always have the pirating minority, but if a game is worth the money, people will buy it. COD is nowhere near worth £40. Most games aren't.

If games companies stop expecting shit to sell like solid gold, and charged prices that were idicative of game quality, people will pay.
 

Thandran

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kouriichi said:
Games were just better 10 years ago. They were better 5 years ago. They didnt have to find something to blame, because games were worth buying.
Watch a few Angry Video Game Episodes and say that again.

Some games were so bad that they had to bury thousand of unsold cartridges. :)
 

Something Amyss

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
In related news, bears take crap in forested areas. Unconfirmed sources report the sun may in fact rise tomorrow (if you're American).

/sarcasm
Hey, I've been saying this for well over a year, now, and people argue with it. So while you may think it's obvious enough for "the sun will rise tomorrow" cracks, it seems most of the gaming community just doesn't get it.

omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
And if you don't mind a lack of selection and only the Call of Duties and God of Wars being stocked, you're golden.

Kahani said:
That's not really much of a defence. "If these mechanical looms take over, there's no way for artisan weavers to survive.". Absolutely correct, there isn't. What's missing is the important part to make it an actual defence "... and that would be a bad thing because...". There's a reason "Luddite" is now generally considered a negative term. All I'm reading here is that if people don't have a reason to visit a particular shop, that shop will go out of business. So what? If people don't have a reason to visit that shop, why should anyone care that it goes out of business?
Except Gamestop are in no way parallel to artisan anything. The removal of game stores is a bad thing to gamers and game companies because the physical distribution of games is still a big thing to game stores and game companies.

Seem redundant? Just making sure we're clear.

We're not talking about hanging on to the horse and buggy instead of the car. This isn't DD versus retail, this is retail, period, which is still the backbone of the economy. Gamestop is still so important to retail that the same people bitching about them actively pander to them with deals and special pre-order bonuses. Even the guys declaring war on used games seem to understand this.

The specialty operation is not yet outmoded. Especially if you want to keep a wide selection of games in circulation. If you're fine with a tenth, a twentieth, a fiftieth the number of titles in stock then fine, go to Wal-Mart or a "supermarket."

If you actually want selection in a store, you need Gamestop or something similar. And because of the way the industry has gamed (no pun intended) the market, used game sales are vital to a specialty store.

If we ever get to the point that Digital Distribution dominates the market and people are hanging on to the idea of a specialty store in the face of actual obsolescence, we'll have a comparable situation to the Artisan Weaver Scenario.
 

tmande2nd

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I really hate this used game is evil thing.

I bought Morrowind used.
Know what? I then bought Arena and Daggerfall, and Oblivion and Skyrim because I had that much fun with it.

Dont make games that you play once and forget, then blame EVERYONE but yourself.
EA pisses me off so much "Small minority of players" "Casual gamers" and of course "PIRATES/USED SALES!"

Dont blame people for saying your shit stinks, blame yourself.
 

Dryk

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omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
Because some people like to play games that aren't CoD/Halo N+5 or Barbie's Kitty Adventure. Which is all you get from supermarkets currently. If specialty stores die, selection dies. Unless supermarkets step in to pick up the slack, but if they're only stocking games to get people into stores why would they take the risk?
 

medv4380

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Roboto said:
Who let Blockbuster talk? Better yet, who was still around to talk FOR them?
Dish Network bought them back a while ago so that they could offer rentals the same way Netflix does to help stem some of the customer attrition that Netflix was causing. The independent company Blockbuster no longer exits.
 

Yopaz

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Mr Ink 5000 said:
omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
if you are happy with only the top 20 for each platform, then you wont need them.
Really? I usually find a wider range of games other places than GameStop than when I actually shop at GameStop. I also get better prices, better service and a better organized store. I even get free coffee from time to time. I don't want GameStop to go out of business, but I wont miss them if they do.