I can't wait to play this game. In like 2 years, when I can finally justify buying a PS4. No one game is worth the several hundred dollars to buy a system when there is nothing else I would do with it.
Bloodborne Review - Full of Dark Souls
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Care to offer any actual meaningful information or counterpoints with that insult, or is this just "stop liking things I don't like"?Schmeiser said:
I waited patiently after work till midnight. I was talking to my girlfriend... than I said I have to go. I was tired, so I figured I would play an hour or so then hit it again after work tonight. I ended up being up till 4 playing and still not wanting to quit. I stopped... woke up at 9 like usual... almost entirely skipped the gym so I could play, but thought better of it. Now I'm at work and all I can think about is going back and playing tonight. It's so damn good.
Parries really aren't that hard. Their difficulty is generally drastically decreased in this game, at least to me. They're not essential either. I finished the second boss almost purely by timing the axe's charged strong attack. And the healing item is actually stupidly common. The cap is only 20 and you can farm 4 guaranteed from a couple of guys close to the first 'bonfire' you reach. There's also silver bullets farmable very close by as well.major_chaos said:
Suffice it to say, I'm not having trouble keeping my resources full.
But yes, RPG elements are reduced a bit, and stats are streamlined. 'Armor' sets are still a thing, but there's no 'heavy-ish' armor as far as I know. Honestly, I don't mind the streamlining of stats considering I generally only focused on 2 or 3 stats for builds in Dark Souls 2 anyways.
It's a different direction, for sure, but it's still very much worth your time. It feels wonderful.
[sub]oh, and there is a shield to block...but it's a bit of a joke[/sub]
What turned me off the Souls series was that it din't tell you anything (which would get any other game raked over the coals for), controlled like ass, and had no pause button.
Does Bloodborne do any of that?
Does Bloodborne do any of that?
I absolutely disagree with the setting being bad but that's (on the face of it) a preferential point. I love the gothic setting, it has me enthralled. However I don't think it's fair to be this brand of negative to a setting until you've experienced it. Souls games are heavily into their atmosphere. Bloodborne has it in spades. If you think it's just going to be a lackluster, trope heavy plod through Van Helsing world...Well, if anything the DKS settings were getting a little dull for me.Ishal said:
I agree that there are fewer weapons however I think the variety has improved. One of my biggest beefs with DKS 1/2 were the weapon choices, on the face of it you had dozens of cool weapons to select from, in reality they were mostly extremely similar with several being objectively superior for whatever purpose. My characters ended up with different weapon types but usually the same spells/weapons. After a dozen or so runs and a hell of a lot of PvP and experimenting I had my weapon sets down. Bloodborne has trimmed some excess fat in that regard. I wish there were more choices but at least these choices are more meaningful.
I don't know yet (obviously) and I don't know how you seem to know but it is claimed to have ~Demons Souls content without the Chalice. Besides which it comes down to what the content is. In fact I find the word content misleading. I can't remember the times for my DKS characters but I know that my second run was 1/4 the time of the first run, maybe a little less. The games aren't massive, they're dense. The content is beautiful and enticing (or indeed, should be) and I personally enjoy running through it many, many times with different characters in different covenants doing different stuff. If the gameplay is amazing (and Bloodborne...ho boy) then I'll play the content repeatedly. If it sucks (FFXIII) then I struggle to give it the content it claims to possess...Just because a game claims size doesn't mean it'll be reflected in how much you play it. I've played Dark Souls 1 and 2 more individually than I've played Skyrim and Skyrim has vastly more 'content'.
I don't get what you mean about R1 spam, I mean I get the statement but it's not going to be present. The same could have been said of previous Souls' games. "Spam R1 with the correct timing to win!" You might get through the game like that (your timing must be excellent) but it's misleading. There are items (and they're more useful than normal in Souls games), you switch weapon style regularly (well, I do), you can have a firearm and there are other attacking buttons. Furthermore if you take that mentality into the PvP (and it's a Souls game, the PvP is a HUGE part of it) you'll get annihilated every time.
I don't know about frame skipping, I had hoped for 60fps and I do agree that of all the Souls games thus far this is the one where it might really matter, 1 and 2 and Demons didn't need it really. Bloodborne appears quick enough that it would be better in 60, probably. I still think fps is one of the most absurd arguments in gaming at the moment and that the difference is practically negligible unless you're in comparison and easily adjusted to regardless but it is a slight, very slight shame.
That's...you seem a little angry about this, I'm not sure why. It appears to be a superlative game, agreed. I think it's a shame it's not on PC at release but I think that of any exclusive, I don't like exclusivity; it necessitates exclusion. I will get a PS4 almost solely for Bloodborne. Madness? Not really, I can't afford a gaming PC (no, I really can't) and there are other games on PS4 I'd love to dabble in. It's not just for Bloodborne but Bloodborne sways me. Of course, I'll wait a little longer to hear some trusted reviews. One must be careful not to get taken in by the shiny.
It's not anger, it's more frustration than anything. I would have liked to buy BB, eventually. But having watched it streamed for the past few days, I'm just not taken in by it.Hugga_Bear said:
There are several things about it that either don't click, or plain rub me the wrong way. I see several things about it that remind me of DKS II. And to see people praising them here, but criticizing them in DKS II just feels like hypocrisy. But, I'm not going to get into that here. If you want to know what I mean, we can continue on that via PM.
As to the topic of console exclusivity. I used to be primarily a console gamer. I finally was able to set aside funds to build a gaming rig. It did cost me quite a bit, (once you add in the other things like Monitor, keyboard etc) so I'm not going to tell people if they think they don't have the money to build one. Though, I will say when the consoles first came out, you could certainly build a PC that outperforms them for less.
It all comes down to preference. I just don't see a reason to own a console, and now that BB hasn't grabbed me like I thought it would, there is pretty much zero reason. Other than a Wii U, that offers a different experience, I'll stick with PC. The games are more to my interest, my tastes have shifted.
This video is an in depth analysis of the state of consoles, and why some people are opting out.
Yeah, except no.Ishal said:
Against regular mooks you can maybe get away with spamming R1, and that's only if there's one or two of them. Everything else, spamming R1 is only good for a quick death. You don't use your quickstep and shotgun properly and you'll just be banging your head against a wall.
Yes, shotgun parried... Meaning not the R1 button. As well as these parries only working if you perform them right before a strike hits. Strikes that kill you in two or three hits and are very hard see coming. And let's not forget the stamina gauge not allowing you to spam the R1 attack at all. You also don't have infinite ammo with the counter locking at 20 for the blunderbust, at the start of the game anyway.Ishal said:
If being able to shotgun-stun and R1 slash even the first Boss into submission is considered spamming attacks, I'd like to know what you actually define as skillful.
I'm in the same boat as "I won't be buying this unless it comes on PC". There is little chance of that happening..I didn't mind playing Demons's Souls..guess Bloodborne will be a pass as well.
I invested in a 980 for a reason -> I want to play games on my PC at 60fps and higher resolutions.
I don't want to pay 460euro for a game just because Sony are hogging BB all for themselves and doensn't want more money from other fanbases on other platforms..their loss, because I don't see many people buy a PS4 just to play a game (there aren't any more noteworthy AAA exclusives that are coming out on PS4 this year so whats the reason to invest in a PS4 again? Please do tell me).
I invested in a 980 for a reason -> I want to play games on my PC at 60fps and higher resolutions.
I don't want to pay 460euro for a game just because Sony are hogging BB all for themselves and doensn't want more money from other fanbases on other platforms..their loss, because I don't see many people buy a PS4 just to play a game (there aren't any more noteworthy AAA exclusives that are coming out on PS4 this year so whats the reason to invest in a PS4 again? Please do tell me).
It's fine, your opinion seems genuinely considered and informed so really I don't think there's much I could say, I think our personal enjoyment factors of the game appear different but in fairness I'm pretty much in love with the Souls games and their approach.Ishal said:
I actually generally agree and would prefer a high end PC to a console especially now I've worked out how to plug in controllers without creepy spyware. Actually I'd want both a high end PC and a PS4 ideally but in my situation that's a ridiculously expensive idea.
Regardless, I hope I didn't come across as harsh and thank you for sharing your views.
Lot of PC love here. As an owner of everything (because money and sickness are bad to have together I guess) I get the best of all worlds....but honestly, when I loaded up Bloodborne and "felt" how much it was like Dark Souls I got the heebie jeebies, and not in a good way.
The review suggests that patience and determination are needed to play a Souls-style game. She's not kidding...although if you feel like that's a sleight on your gamer skills, I would suggest that one must think of BB and other Souls titles are "requiring the patience of a saint, or maybe a martyr of the highest order," because I have a lot of patience, and boy do these games test it...
The review suggests that patience and determination are needed to play a Souls-style game. She's not kidding...although if you feel like that's a sleight on your gamer skills, I would suggest that one must think of BB and other Souls titles are "requiring the patience of a saint, or maybe a martyr of the highest order," because I have a lot of patience, and boy do these games test it...