Blu-Ray Gets Bigger

[cleverlymadeup]

Mass Effect? That's a pretty huge Microsoft exclusive (at least for now).

no it's not, it's coming out on the PC, that means it's NOT exclusive

if it's on more than one system it's not exclusive

 

[Asehujiko]

Blu-Ray Gets Bigger

Now PS3 games can cram even more uncompressed data onto one CD, as Sony and Panasonic voodoo masters have worked technological wizardry to beef up the capacity of a Blu-Ray disc.

Sony's PS3 and Microsoft's Xbox 360 have their strengths and disadvantages in the console war, but one area where Microsoft is clearly at a loss is its choice of media: Sony's proprietary Blu-Ray format can hold 25 GB of data on a single layer (and can be dual-layered), where Microsoft's DVD-9s can barely stomach a third of that. Now, the disparity is going to get even wider, reports Nikkei Electronics Asia [http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20091222/178809/].

Sony and Panasonic have tag-teamed to create a method with which the storage capacity of the Blu-Ray can be increased from 25 GB to 33.4 GB using existing Blu-Ray reader diodes. There's some really complicated technology at work here that depends on reading infinitesimally small amounts of jitter, and that's way, way over my head, so instead of the actual technobabble I'll just explain it as this: Sony and Panasonic unholy priests performed a dark voodoo ritual to give their media disc even more power. That's all you need to know, right?

Apparently, it won't even require a hardware update - it can be accomplished with firmware and work on your existing Blu-Ray players, too.

Now, the Sony and Panasonic technicians should work on getting the data actually read at a decent speed so that we don't have to sit through crazy loading screens or install times.

(Via Blu-Ray.com [http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=230794])

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Yay, now they are only 30.6GB behind usb sticks and ... still more then 1.9 terabyte behind external HD's. Why is this news?

 

[Chameliondude]

What would be cool, was if we could buy blank rewritable ones to put tons of our hard drive stuff in or to record tv onto from the ps3, as that would instantly double the storage capasity, and our ability to movve our data around.

 

[Rect Pola]

Yeah; more data on one disc is cool, but reading what you have faster would be my angle to improve things.

 

[brunothepig]

...because they got a steadier needle to read it

But it was without a hardware update. If our systems would need a steadier needle to read it then it wouldn't work. I do agree with what you said about college ruled paper though, they're probably cramming.

I thought the previous 25GB was just for one layer, and they were able to dual layer their discs giving them a total of 50GB, but maybe I was mistaken? If I'm right about the dual layer though, that means we've got 70GB disks and that's a massive fucking disk.

I need to get me some blank ones. Burn entire seasons of shows onto a single disc. Hell, I could have two seasons, one on each side.
Every time I think I might have decided what next-gen to get first, something changes... Tell you what Sony, you'll clinch it if you actually give us a reason to earn those trophies.

 

[Melon Hunter]

Mass Effect? That's a pretty huge Microsoft exclusive (at least for now).

no it's not, it's coming out on the PC, that means it's NOT exclusive

if it's on more than one system it's not exclusive

Agreed, a point most 360 owners will go to their deathbeds refusing to acknowledge.

It's being released for Xbox 360 and Games for Windows. These are both made by Microsoft, hence Microsoft exclusive. The word isn't synonymous with console exclusive. And since when did an Xbox 360 gamer claim exclusivity on a multiplatform title?

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

-snip-

You know there's been a 250GB Blu-Ray, right? 10 layers, compatible in any Blu-Ray player.

Then this would be a 334GB Blu-Ray with the same layers

I...err...I...shhhhh...

There there, it's ok...I didn't see nothin.

 

[Xanadu84]

K sorry, let me review my comment.....

PS3 has no good games. IMO. PC is superior anyway.

Please, no flame war. Not what im looking for here.

Isn't that kind of like saying, "Your a worthless douchbag, no offense"?

I don't think that you are a douchbag, I seriously just mean that as a metaphor, but I'm curious, in what way that statement is not the first volley in a flame war? You have an outright dismissal of any quality in the PS3, and a blanket statement of your platform being superior to all others.

Well actually, its just like, uhhh, my opinion man.

Yes, and if I called someone a worthless douche bag, that would be my opinion. That really doesn't change the fact that it's flaming. I mean, come on, that's what flaming is. It's an opinion. If it was empirically represented fact with no room for discussion or disagreement whatsoever, it really couldn't be flaming. Its just facts. Flaming is always an opinion. That's just what it is.

 

[Jumplion]

...because they got a steadier needle to read it

But it was without a hardware update. If our systems would need a steadier needle to read it then it wouldn't work. I do agree with what you said about college ruled paper though, they're probably cramming.

I thought the previous 25GB was just for one layer, and they were able to dual layer their discs giving them a total of 50GB, but maybe I was mistaken? If I'm right about the dual layer though, that means we've got 70GB disks and that's a massive fucking disk.

I need to get me some blank ones. Burn entire seasons of shows onto a single disc. Hell, I could have two seasons, one on each side.
Every time I think I might have decided what next-gen to get first, something changes... Tell you what Sony, you'll clinch it if you actually give us a reason to earn those trophies.

What do you mean a reason, Achievements don't do jack except increase your gamers score, Trophies don't do jack except increase your level. What do you want a message that pops up saying "You have gone out of your way to get every trophy! have a cookie"?

Actually, you get a Platinum Trophy

OT: More space is always good, and larger disc space can further cement physical media as a dominant platform.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Digital Distribution will never overtake Physical Media, and if it does it won't be for a VERY long time. DD and PM can only compliment each other and if done properly the two can live perfectly together.

Though personally, I've always enjoyed the tangible feeling of a disk.

 

[Pendragon9]

If this decreases load times and/or install times, then +1 for them.

 

[ffxfriek]

Them crazy people do it again. But thats good because less waste and more for us gamers/movie watchers

 

[Darktau]

If this decreases load times and/or install times, then +1 for them.

It won't.

BUT, we get more movies and better audio. Actually... it might.

Ahem..

If there is more space on the disk, then they can use less compression? amrite?

If they use less compression it takes less time to decompress, leading to faster install times.

 

[Pigeon_Grenade]

Sounds Fun hehe

 

[brunothepig]

Every time I think I might have decided what next-gen to get first, something changes... Tell you what Sony, you'll clinch it if you actually give us a reason to earn those trophies.

What do you mean a reason, Achievements don't do jack except increase your gamers score, Trophies don't do jack except increase your level. What do you want a message that pops up saying "You have gone out of your way to get every trophy! have a cookie"?

No... What I would like is something for earning them. Why can't the 360 give me points to spend on Live? Or the PS3 give me points to spend on the PSN? I know I'm good, I don't need some score telling me the same thing. Actually, a message that says "have a cookie" would be awesome.

 

[Asehujiko]

Because how many games are sold on USB and External HDs. Those are for storage, these are for PLAYING if you can't separate the difference between the two I have to politely ask you to return your brain to where ever you got it so someone can put it to better use.

And everybody could save a ton of money by switching to those formats.

 

[Asehujiko]

Because how many games are sold on USB and External HDs. Those are for storage, these are for PLAYING if you can't separate the difference between the two I have to politely ask you to return your brain to where ever you got it so someone can put it to better use.

And everybody could save a ton of money by switching to those formats.

what the fuck does that have to do with the fact no games are sold on USBs and External HDs and it's incredibly stupid to compare the two.

Publisheres are stupid traditionalists that refuse so switch away from outdated formats were it's apparently special that they get upgraded to the point of being half as effective as the next nearest equivalent.

 

[Asehujiko]

Because how many games are sold on USB and External HDs. Those are for storage, these are for PLAYING if you can't separate the difference between the two I have to politely ask you to return your brain to where ever you got it so someone can put it to better use.

And everybody could save a ton of money by switching to those formats.

what the fuck does that have to do with the fact no games are sold on USBs and External HDs and it's incredibly stupid to compare the two.

Publisheres are stupid traditionalists that refuse so switch away from outdated formats were it's apparently special that they get upgraded to the point of being half as effective as the next nearest equivalent.

Uh hu. Remind me again what any of this has to do with the fact that since you can't name a single game sold on USB or External HD you can't compare them as a format for selling video games and movies? oh right NOTHING. If you wanna have a huge ***** about Publishers being 'stupid traditionalists' go to the forums and start a topic.

We are comparing storage media, not sales numbers of data on it.

 

[DemonicVixen]

It seems like two minutes since DVD's first came out. How the hell has technology changed overnight?

 

[Asehujiko]

Because how many games are sold on USB and External HDs. Those are for storage, these are for PLAYING if you can't separate the difference between the two I have to politely ask you to return your brain to where ever you got it so someone can put it to better use.

And everybody could save a ton of money by switching to those formats.

what the fuck does that have to do with the fact no games are sold on USBs and External HDs and it's incredibly stupid to compare the two.

Publisheres are stupid traditionalists that refuse so switch away from outdated formats were it's apparently special that they get upgraded to the point of being half as effective as the next nearest equivalent.

Uh hu. Remind me again what any of this has to do with the fact that since you can't name a single game sold on USB or External HD you can't compare them as a format for selling video games and movies? oh right NOTHING. If you wanna have a huge ***** about Publishers being 'stupid traditionalists' go to the forums and start a topic.

We are comparing storage media, not sales numbers of data on it.

No you are comparing storage media, I am talking about how that it is not a format videos or movies are sold on, therefore should not be compared to a format where video and movies are sold on.

You are CHANGING the subject because you don't actually have anything to prove me wrong.

No, you keep blabbering on about something that isn't even relevant. The topic is the storage capacity of blu ray, not their sales.