Boy Scouts Accepting Gays Now

[101flyboy]

The fact that adults would go after children and more or less bully them goes to show just how far the depths of homophobia can go. This is not about disagreeing with homosexuality................it's about people who outright dislike and hate it. What a disaster, embarrassment, and disgrace.

 

[101flyboy]

If you're against the hateful ban, please call:

972-580-2330 and say you are FOR ending the ban on gays in the BSA. It only takes a minute. Please do it if you care because your vote can and will make a difference.

 

[Blunderman]

It's good, definitely.

But it's still utterly pathetic that homosexuals were disallowed in the first place.

 

[DementedSheep]

This is a good thing but it took them this goddamn long?

So next will they allow women to join? And maybe the girl scouts will accept male members. It's a private club, can't they decide who can and can't join?

You know what I think it would be great that they do? How about just "Scouts" and kids who want to be all outdoorsy and team style social get more of the Boy Scouts elements and kids who want to be really domestic and community/networking social get more of the Girl Scouts elements and gender need not be a consideration?

I really wanted to join the Boy Scouts because my friend Mike was one and not only did I idolize him but he told me about all the cool stuff they did camping and exploring and it sounded so fun. Of course, the Girl Scout troop I was geographically closest to had no such activities and were instead organizing a bake-off and 'exploring' the Mall of America for their big trip. I was so disappointed I didn't stay. I really think I would be more of an outdoors person than I am now if I had had the opportunity to join the side of Scouting that fit my interests at the time. I wanted to be more outdoorsy and in nature and comfortable there. I didn't want to learn to be a more savvy shopper or cook tasty treats - though I developed a love of baking later in life, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with offering such things! They just don't need to be so gender tagged specific in an increasingly less gender specific world.

I wasn't bitter about it and I'm not now, those were their rules, they got to make them, I accepted it, I was a kid there wasn't much else to do. Now that I'm an adult I can look back and see that I missed out for really arbitrary reasons that may be outdated enough to be a little ridiculous.

Are the NZ Scouts connected the the US Scouts? because I use to be in the Scouts and I'm female. There were a fair amount of girls in it and our leader was female. I don't know what their stance was on gay men though. I don't think it was ever brought up.

 

[Petromir]

Anyway, I always find it so hilariously amusing when people call being gay abnormal, considering just how often it is observed not just in our species, but in so so many other species in this world. Being gay is not only completely normal, but also far more common than people who claim otherwise care to admit.

Using animal behavoir as what's acceptable in humans? Not a good comparison plenty of animal sexual behavoirs that are still considered bad in human, in various species incest and rape are 'normal' sexual nehavoir. Also in some cases such as Manatee homosexual behavoir is observed in what are in effect bands of teenage/young adult males who move on to entirely hetro lifestyles as mature adults. It's a fair amount of anthropomorphising going on to equate most of what goes on behavior wise whether sexual or not, studies can be useful for simplistic studies that relate to humans but generally works best a groups and larger social groups rather than specifics like sexuality. In other words using the rest of animal kingdom of proof of normality or acceptability is at best shakey and at worst actually detrimental to your argument.

On topic good to see the american scouts have joined the real world at least in part on this issue. Outside of romantic life there's precious little your sexuality should matter to others (and even then only if at least one of those involved is attracted to another).

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Thats great, but I just hope the scouts will be able to stay in buisness. I expect that a very large percentage of parents will pull thier kids out of the scouts.

Or maybe I'm just being pessimistic about this because I read this on yahoo news and made the mistake of reading the comments, but I don't see this lasting too long.

I can understand that, they will have to make known the rules of respecting one another to stop unwanted advaces. Boy scouts can sleep 3 to a tent. While just because you gay does mean you'll advance upon every opprotunity, there still will be times when it does happen. Its the same reason girl scouts camps are made far from boy scout camps.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

If they do it, good for them. I still don't like them because I recently found out for years they were protecting pederast like the catholic church.

If they don't, that's fine by me too. They are a private organization can have their rules as they wish.

Why the public cares about rules of a private organization is beyond me. It's not like our tax dollars go to it.

 

[Ziodyne64]

I always get so upset when someone types something like, "I don't want my kid getting humped by someone in a tent." What? By that logic, gay people are attracted to every person they will ever see. No. Just no. I've always been a supporter of gay rights and when this whole thing came up I immediately thought, "What idiots."

 

[Vault101]

[snip).

its more do you can tel people to shut the hell up if they say it isnt "natural"

"natural" is not a word for "good"..it simply is, and gayness is just as natural as any good/bad thing

 

[Vault101]

Just another pathetic attempt by gays into trying to normalise their abnormal lifestyle.
And why is it that it is Gays and Lesbians, aren't lesbians gay in the first place!

you have a fundamental problem with whom oher people fuck...like it botheres you for some reason

that I find interesting...

 

[Angie7F]

I find it weird that any organization can still get by without accepting gays...

 

[AgedGrunt]

I find it weird that any organization can still get by without accepting gays...

The United States swept a man into office who ran against same-sex marriage. Nationwide it doesn't exist. Reelected. Somehow, this gets by.

Meanwhile, no one's allowed to live down denying gender or racial equalities.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

They couldn't already? Da fuck?

Anyway: Good.

All I have to say really.

 

[username sucks]

Thats great, but I just hope the scouts will be able to stay in buisness. I expect that a very large percentage of parents will pull thier kids out of the scouts.

Or maybe I'm just being pessimistic about this because I read this on yahoo news and made the mistake of reading the comments, but I don't see this lasting too long.

I can understand that, they will have to make known the rules of respecting one another to stop unwanted advaces. Boy scouts can sleep 3 to a tent. While just because you gay does mean you'll advance upon every opprotunity, there still will be times when it does happen. Its the same reason girl scouts camps are made far from boy scout camps.

(I think you meant doesn't)

Anyway, I wasn't too woried about that. I know they would have rules and other ways to prevent that stuff. What I am woried about is all the bigoted parents taking thier kids out of the program. Read about this on any other site and you will see the comments full of people who say that they will pull thier kids out, stop thier donations ect. I even read one claiming that he was going to bomb them for it(and I very much hope that was an empty threat). If that turns out to be a large enough portion of the members, can the boy scouts stay in buisness?