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Boycotting? Good lord. Just don't buy an Xbone if you don't want it. If it turns out people buy it and want it, good for them and unlucky for us if this spreads. I will however continue to use windows on my laptop and buy games for my 360 way after Xbone's time.
EDIT: Infact it'd be even more sweeter if people flocked to buy Xbox 360's without the restrictions of Xbone. It'd avoid all the drama of Boycotting and show Microsoft what gamers really want which is more akin to the 360 and further away from the Xbone.
EDIT: Infact it'd be even more sweeter if people flocked to buy Xbox 360's without the restrictions of Xbone. It'd avoid all the drama of Boycotting and show Microsoft what gamers really want which is more akin to the 360 and further away from the Xbone.
Just don't buy the Xbone. That's it. That's all you have to do. Educate people as to why it's horrible if you want - and it's objectively the worst video game console of all time, so it won't take much - and help them understand it's issues so that even less people buy it.
Do that, and Microsoft's Xbox division will lose money. Then you'll have their attention.
Yusuf Mehdi, Microsoft's Xbox Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer, told interviewers that Microsoft wasn't concerned with the backlash because there is a larger audience who doesn't pay attention to all the details. He actually said that. That's their plan - sell it to people who don't know how shit it is.
If you really, really want this thing to do, educate the mainstream audience. Internet posts are worthless, because Microsoft's idiocy has already educated the internet crowd. We all fucking hate this thing. It's the people who aren't on the internet that we need to not buy this thing.
As for a Microsoft wide Boycott, I think they're doing a great job on their own of instructing people to not buy their products.
Do that, and Microsoft's Xbox division will lose money. Then you'll have their attention.
Yusuf Mehdi, Microsoft's Xbox Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer, told interviewers that Microsoft wasn't concerned with the backlash because there is a larger audience who doesn't pay attention to all the details. He actually said that. That's their plan - sell it to people who don't know how shit it is.
If you really, really want this thing to do, educate the mainstream audience. Internet posts are worthless, because Microsoft's idiocy has already educated the internet crowd. We all fucking hate this thing. It's the people who aren't on the internet that we need to not buy this thing.
As for a Microsoft wide Boycott, I think they're doing a great job on their own of instructing people to not buy their products.
Because it's taking away our rights and telling us that games aren't meant to be owned, you're just renting them while your system of choice has a built in death clock, waiting for the servers to be abandoned, turning it into a nice, heavy, paperweight. You boycott it to stop them from being able to push their BS ideas onto people.Don Mattrick said:
I said viable alternative. Never said that it could completely usurp Windows, but more an alternative to consider. I've been able to game on Linux. Some are native, some are Wine, both of which are fine with me. It's perfectly alright for gaming if we had more developers and a standardized package manager.Requia said:
I can go ahead and list the ways that it could work, if you'd like.
I'm not into boycotts personally, I have no intention of purchasing an Xbox One at all anyway. When a company or organization does something that bothers me I just don't support it, I won't go on a crusade to rally my fellow consumers not to buy something especially if it's a luxury like a game system. However, I certainly don't mind if people call for boycotts, they just have little sway over me personally.
No. I rely on too many of their products at work.
By what you want, and don't buy what you don't want. Market forces adapt naturally.
If they don't adapt to your standards, then... tough, I guess. They probably already do, though, seeing how there are multiple Xbox One alternatives hanging around.
By what you want, and don't buy what you don't want. Market forces adapt naturally.
If they don't adapt to your standards, then... tough, I guess. They probably already do, though, seeing how there are multiple Xbox One alternatives hanging around.
Because Steam has an Apocalypse Plan B (ie. they'll turn on ALL their servers, distribute copies of the games with a no-Steam patch, and shut down everything a few days later).Don Mattrick said:
Microsoft does not seem to have one.
Making it worse is "If you want backwards compatibility, you're really backwards!" If that's their attitude, they have no reason to include an Apocalypse Plan B.
I don't see a reason to boycott the company. They do make some good products that I enjoy, such as my windows PC. There's no reason for me to refuse to buy products that work for me simply because the company also produces products that don't work for me. And so, I will not buy an Xbone.
Why do people always make this comparison? Steam offers tremendous value in return for that restrictive DRM they use. I hated Steam when it first came out and refused to buy anything that had anything to do with it. But, Valve evolved it over time into a platform that benefits me more than hinders me. If Microsoft came out and announced that all Xbone games would be 10-20 bucks, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The thing is they want to use Steam style DRM without any of the benefits Steam offers as recompense. In fact, despite their over bearing DRM, they still won't budge on screwing indie developers over. The comparison is nonsensicle.Don Mattrick said:
I think you need to narrow this, a bit. Boycott the X-bone if you wish, but don't forget PC gaming requires a...PC. While there are plenty of reasons to be angry about the X-bone, there's no reason to be angry at the PC, at least more than usual.Cid SilverWing said:
How is linux a viable operating system when it's obscure to over half of the population? It's nearly impossible to boycott something that's almost mandatory for day to day lives. I will be boycotting their system to let them know that I'm no longer a consumer in their gaming products.thesilentman said:
I certainly won't comply with this. My PC runs on Windows 7 and does so fine and I'm inclined to buy the Nokia 520 running on Windows Phone 8.Cid SilverWing said:
I won't buy the XO at launch. But not because you don't like it. I'm actually rather indifferent towards it.
My problem is that all the super ?awesome? TV features probably won't work in Europe, Microsoft wants 100? more than Sony for pretty much the same hardware and I have yet to see how the account system etc. plays out in reality.
You know there is a proverb for this: Things are never as bad as they seem.
Once the system undergoes a price cut and the DRM is hit by reality I will have a look at their game library again and re-evaluate my decision.
To anybody planning on not getting the Xbone
Can you PLEASE follow through on that?
It feels like for all the bile gamers are willing to spit at companies, they still buy their stuff, and just rationalize it kater
Believe it or not, Microsoft doesn't care if you 'just bought it for Halo' they still have your money
So c'mon guys, show some restraint in the months to come... please?
Can you PLEASE follow through on that?
It feels like for all the bile gamers are willing to spit at companies, they still buy their stuff, and just rationalize it kater
Believe it or not, Microsoft doesn't care if you 'just bought it for Halo' they still have your money
So c'mon guys, show some restraint in the months to come... please?
Sorry bro, I'm probably going to end up buying both a PS4 and an Xbone. I have this crazy philosophy that gaming should be about games and regardless of how crap the Xbone is, It has a good selection of exclusives lined up.
While I'm not going to boycott MS in general, I am going to boycott the XBOne specifically . . . by simply not buying one. I have a desktop that runs Windows 7, which I like just fine. I have a Windows 7.5 phone, but I'm kinda "meh" on it, mostly because they just don't have near the app selection that iOS and Android have. It functions just dandy, though. I have a Windows 8 laptop, which I'm not all that keen on, but it's what came with it. It's overly complicated just to close "apps" down (they're programs, gorramit) and on a non-touchscreen interface, the tile scheme is just a pain in the butt (works fine on my phone, however).
So, what it comes down to is that until recently, MS has been just fine, but with their newest products, they've been getting more and more out of touch. I love my 360. I chose it over the PS3 because it had more exclusives that I wanted, not because I'm an MS fanboy. But this time around they have royally screwed the pooch with the excessive DRM and the creepy always-on, mandatory Kinect . . . so it's a PS4 for me. Eventually.
So, what it comes down to is that until recently, MS has been just fine, but with their newest products, they've been getting more and more out of touch. I love my 360. I chose it over the PS3 because it had more exclusives that I wanted, not because I'm an MS fanboy. But this time around they have royally screwed the pooch with the excessive DRM and the creepy always-on, mandatory Kinect . . . so it's a PS4 for me. Eventually.
LAWL @ your user name.Don Mattrick said:
I see this arguement alot. Steam doesn't require a 24 hour check in. Online DRM doesn't work as proven by Diablo 3 and Sim Shitty. It didn't go over well with Ubisoft games. Rather than facing facts the industry is shoving this unwanted crap down our throats and acting like we're the ones ignoring facts when we #dealwithit.
My internet isn't too bad but it isn't great either. It has downtime on rare occassions. With Steam, no problem play your games while you wait. With Xbone, I may have a 24 hour window then I can go fuck myself as a reward for buying an Xbone while I could be playing many of the same titles on PS4 or on Steam in that same scenario. The Xbone is not just like Steam.
Additionally, I have the privelege of having a greedy dickhead of an ISP as my only choice for internet in this town. They have a wonderful 250GB cap per month. So now I get to pay extra for games I buy if I get an Xbone for overage charges. Yay! I already have to watch this crap with Steam, Netflix, and any actual online gaming I do. I don't need a console design to suck up bandwidth like a kid with a new crazy straw.
Then to top it all off as icing on the cake, I don't even get to own a copy of the game that I would probably end up overpaying for. It isn't actually mine. Microsoft is just letting me borrow it indefinitely.
PS4 and Nintendo are saying "You can keep buying your games like you have been and you can actually own it." Which is already a better deal but, for me, an added bonus is I actually like shopping in brick and mortar stores compared to online purchases. Above all, Nintendo and PS are keeping their games in the general market and not pulling them back into a cornered market. I'll believe that the prices will go down in 20 years. I wouldn't doubt Microsoft will lower prices to draw people in but I suspect the prices will skyrocket as soon as they feel it is safe to do so. (When or If people accept this crap) Just look at what DLC did to expansion packs just as the naysayers claimed it would ten years ago.
...I've been boycotting Microsoft since the release of Windows ME. Then they dipped into the gaming market with the Xbox and I had no idea why the hell people bought it. Ditto on the 360. I imagine I'll be similarly stunned this generation when yet another of their gaming systems sells well despite running a shitty mobile OS on slow hardware for too much money. Again.
So... continuing as usual.
So... continuing as usual.
Well, there is that travesty called Windows 8. Plenty of reasons to be mad over that if you like to keep your OS up to date, like myself. Luckily, I always watch what people say about the Windows betas and managed to avoid that turd entirely. I guess I'll just run Win7 until Linux becomes a viable gaming platform.Lilani said:
