Braid Dev Says Auto-Save Warnings Waste Time and Money

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It's too hard to warn people not to turn off their consoles while the game is saving? Wtf?

Personally I would expect most game developers to rotate auto-saves already simply because warning someone not to do something doesn't mean they won't do it. And don't people realize that if you turn off a disk drive mid-write, you might lose more than the just the file that is being saved.
 

Zaik

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I don't think anyone is surprised to find out that console certification is wasteful or largely about enforcing nonsense rules to ensure trivial crap is in place just because.

I think the point was probably made the first time someone ever brought up that they had to wait a month on it to pass.
 

Zealous

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Oh look, it's that one guy who made that one indie game complaining about something again. Alert the presses gentlemen, this man has something to say.
 

xPixelatedx

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Wow a lot of you people really hate this guy. He pointed out a rather large problem and gave an awesome solution; one that could make console gaming a lot better. I've lost a lot on my xbox due to the brown outs California summers bring. What he's suggesting has nothing to do with indi games being better. He said there should be a system setup to make sure your saves are backed up... and this is bad!? Oh, I guess it is because he said it.

I'm going to guess that many of you don't want health-care, either.
 

Tharwen

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Daystar Clarion said:
3 days for Jonathan Blow, cause he sucks at programming, it would take me about 2 hours to implement this.
But could you get it through a QA department in that time?

Honestly, I don't know why people are complaining about this. It's just a simple (and intuitive!) improvement to game save files.
 

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WhiteTigerShiro said:
If you think I've defended anyone or suggested they know anything you've misread my posts thus far. All I've pointed out is that your own reasoning indicates Blow knows the least. If his detractors know more by comparison it is only due to his lacking, not their wealth of knowledge.

The goal was to point out to you that you are doing what you're poking the disagreeing faction of having done: making nonsensical arguments in disagreement with them. Hypocrisy is funny.
 

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This guy needs to really relax. Braid wasn't that great anyways...

And no thank you. I like the little warnings for autosaves. Some games take forever and a day to autosave and i'd rather not turn off my console and totally screw myself over.
 
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Tharwen said:
Daystar Clarion said:
3 days for Jonathan Blow, cause he sucks at programming, it would take me about 2 hours to implement this.
But could you get it through a QA department in that time?

Honestly, I don't know why people are complaining about this. It's just a simple (and intuitive!) improvement to game save files.
I didn't write that dude :D

Check again.
 

Tharwen

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Daystar Clarion said:
Tharwen said:
Daystar Clarion said:
3 days for Jonathan Blow, cause he sucks at programming, it would take me about 2 hours to implement this.
But could you get it through a QA department in that time?

Honestly, I don't know why people are complaining about this. It's just a simple (and intuitive!) improvement to game save files.
I didn't write that dude :D

Check again.
Oh, whoops. I blame the new forum layout... somehow.

draythefingerless said:
I was aiming for you
 

Yuri Albuquerque

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... So much idiocy in this thread. Nobody read what actual developers had to say, it was only "I hate this guy, ergo he must be wrong".

Have you ever heard about ad hominem? That's what you're doing. And the worst way possible.
 

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Considering how those messages need to be translated into like 5 different languages, I totally see where he's coming from. It sounds like it's way more of a pain in the ass than it needs to be.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Oh, you made one mildly successful indy game?



Tell me how you're a genius who will single handedly save the industry from AAA gaming.
Oh dude, that was just pure awesome. We should get together for the sex some time I appreciate your ever humors presence in the forum.
 

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JokerboyJordan said:
WhiteTigerShiro said:
It's been said that the person with the most to say on a matter knows the least about it
You're the one who's said the most by replying to many individuals in this thread.
What does that say?

Captcha: Good for nothing. Sums up my opinions on this.
I see what you did there and I like it.
 

Jumplion

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Daystar Clarion said:
Oh, you made one mildly successful indy game?



Tell me how you're a genius who will single handedly save the industry from AAA gaming.
My god are people being incredibly arrogant and petty, jerking their knees every which way, sticking their fingers so far up their ears that they can make touch the bottom of their eyes.

Instead of, say, discussing the merits of his proposed system, which could potentially save money, all of which adds up over time, and whether or not it is appropriate for larger, triple-AAA titles, or whether the tradition of just putting up "Please don't turn off your console while saving" is becoming archaic (or a method to hopefully idiot-proof software some more), everyone is running around, using ad homeniem, attacking and bitching about the guy and his game, completely ignoring any points he's making because, "OOOH, You're so pretentious! Go back to pretentious-land you pretentious pretentiouser! Stop talking about how great you are, you sniveling pretentious asshole!" like immature, pretentious, babies because they think they're such big men for insulting a guy who made a game and who comes off just a bit too important for the self-important internetizens of this glorious internet. Who gives two shits whether the game he made was to your tastes or not, who cares if he comes off as somewhat prententious and self-important to you, look at the points he's making regardless of those incredibly stupid biases and look into that topic.

My god, sometimes I think gamers can be a bunch of hickbilly neanderthals who don't understand the concept of reading comprehension and spaz out whenever something they slightly disagree with comes up. It is so. Incredibly. Frustrating.

His game was hardly a main point, just a brief mention for an example of a potentially more efficient save system, along with the mention of iOS games. Oh, but we can't mention iOS games, 'cause those games are all scams, every single one of them, and they're horrible, and suck, and suck as games, and therefore cannot be a testament to how efficient and cost-effective this method could potentially be, even though scams are usually designed to be as efficient and cost-effective to gouge more money out of their suckers. Nope, not valid as a testament to an efficient system that saves people money, at least none of us would really know because none of us are discussing it, except for the people in this thread who have worked with computers and programing and agree with the guy.

I'd rant some more, but frankly it's pointless. I think it's safe to say that my jimies have been rustled [http://gifsforum.com/images/image/Rustled%20my%20Jimmies/grand/Rustled-my-Jimmies-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1323.jpg], but it's good to have them rustled occasionally, keeps the fingers from getting tired on the keyboard.
 
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Jumplion said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Oh, you made one mildly successful indy game?



Tell me how you're a genius who will single handedly save the industry from AAA gaming.
My god are people being incredibly arrogant and petty, jerking their knees every which way, sticking their fingers so far up their ears that they can make touch the bottom of their eyes.

Instead of, say, discussing the merits of his proposed system, which could potentially save money, all of which adds up over time, and whether or not it is appropriate for larger, triple-AAA titles, or whether the tradition of just putting up "Please don't turn off your console while saving" is becoming archaic (or a method to hopefully idiot-proof software some more), everyone is running around, using ad homeniem, attacking and bitching about the guy and his game, completely ignoring any points he's making because, "OOOH, You're so pretentious! Go back to pretentious-land you pretentious pretentiouser! Stop talking about how great you are, you sniveling pretentious asshole!" like immature, pretentious, babies because they think they're such big men for insulting a guy who made a game and who comes off just a bit too important for the self-important internetizens of this glorious internet. Who gives two shits whether the game he made was to your tastes or not, who cares if he comes off as somewhat prententious and self-important to you, look at the points he's making regardless of those incredibly stupid biases and look into that topic.

My god, sometimes I think gamers can be a bunch of hickbilly neanderthals who don't understand the concept of reading comprehension and spaz out whenever something they slightly disagree with comes up. It is so. Incredibly. Frustrating.

His game was hardly a main point, just a brief mention for an example of a potentially more efficient save system, along with the mention of iOS games. Oh, but we can't mention iOS games, 'cause those games are all scams, every single one of them, and they're horrible, and suck, and suck as games, and therefore cannot be a testament to how efficient and cost-effective this method could potentially be, even though scams are usually designed to be as efficient and cost-effective to gouge more money out of their suckers. Nope, not valid as a testament to an efficient system that saves people money, at least none of us would really know because none of us are discussing it, except for the people in this thread who have worked with computers and programing and agree with the guy.

I'd rant some more, but frankly it's pointless. I think it's safe to say that my jimies have been rustled [http://gifsforum.com/images/image/Rustled%20my%20Jimmies/grand/Rustled-my-Jimmies-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1323.jpg], but it's good to have them rustled occasionally, keeps the fingers from getting tired on the keyboard.
Sorry wut?

I was just being funny.

It's kinda what I do :D
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Are we interested in everything Blow says now?

Next up Blow asks for a caramel macchiato in Starbucks! Says it's better than all other drinks!

ermergerd trundsutter
 

Jumplion

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Daystar Clarion said:
Sorry wut?

I was just being funny.

It's kinda what I do :D
No offense to you personally, it's just the rest of this goddamn thread is so migraine inducing in its stupidity, biases, knee-jerking, and bitching that seeing that goddamn condescending Wonka mock me for getting diabetes from his goddamn chocolate that he goddamn markets to me with his goddamn alluring promise of eternal health and then laughing at me, day in, day out, over and over, even in my dreams, of trying to sue him for damages...goddamn Wonka.

I'm just really frustrated at how knee-jerky people are. I've been in this forum long enough to really just give up on it but it occasionally rustles my jimmies.
 
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Jumplion said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Sorry wut?

I was just being funny.

It's kinda what I do :D
No offense to you personally, it's just the rest of this goddamn thread is so migraine inducing in its stupidity, biases, knee-jerking, and bitching that seeing that goddamn condescending Wonka mock me for getting diabetes from his goddamn chocolate that he goddamn markets to me with his goddamn alluring promise of eternal health and then laughing at me, day in, day out, over and over, even in my dreams, of trying to sue him for damages...goddamn Wonka.

I'm just really frustrated at how knee-jerky people are. I've been in this forum long enough to really just give up on it but it occasionally rustles my jimmies.
I understand what you mean.

I just like taking the piss, is all :D
 

General Twinkletoes

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Jumplion said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Sorry wut?

I was just being funny.

It's kinda what I do :D
No offense to you personally, it's just the rest of this goddamn thread is so migraine inducing in its stupidity, biases, knee-jerking, and bitching that seeing that goddamn condescending Wonka mock me for getting diabetes from his goddamn chocolate that he goddamn markets to me with his goddamn alluring promise of eternal health and then laughing at me, day in, day out, over and over, even in my dreams, of trying to sue him for damages...goddamn Wonka.

I'm just really frustrated at how knee-jerky people are. I've been in this forum long enough to really just give up on it but it occasionally rustles my jimmies.
It's because most people already know that Blow is an arrogant prick. He's sort of known for it.