I'm glad they decided not to add Females into the game considering they have yet to optimise the game in the slightest. Adding female characters only would have distracted them further.
Brink's lack of females. DISCUSS.
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I thought this argument was rather simple....DanDeFool said:
simply because brink pushed customization as one of its main features, and as I said above when it comes to customization gender is usually the most basic starting point, now Im not complaining because there are reasons they didnt include females, I mean I think they should have but they had their reasons
Its also like people complain about campgn length and story in homefront, they advertised the single player/story as a selling point, and its damn right that poeple were pissed off
now if it was COD doing that then no one bats an eye because COD isnt known for its single player
Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Medal of Honor do not market themselves on their customization. That's the real difference.DanDeFool said:
Or they can go with the 31 different flavors all of which are made with water not milk and contain 1/4 the sugar they usually would.Saelune said:
Although I believe the fact that there was customization in the first place was a stupid idea and only put in as a selling point because it sounds so cool. A game like Brink has no room for every character to be unique in every class. What is the point if you can't distinguish what class the enemy is? It only means you need to switch classes to do objectives and ultimately breaks the flow of the game.
What we terrible, whiny femenists are complaining about isn't the lack of female characters in itself, its the fact that they touted their "Xtreme character cusomization!!1!" thing while ignoring half the human race.
You know, if your game is going to be all male PCs, then fine. Just don't spend all day saying you can make your character whatever you want when you can't.
You know, if your game is going to be all male PCs, then fine. Just don't spend all day saying you can make your character whatever you want when you can't.
That's odd. All the marketing I saw of Brink was about running, gunning, jumping, climbing, class customizing, and blowing things up. I can't for the life of me remember themAris Khandr said:
A) Saying it was "Highly Customiziable"
B) Ever saying that women were going to be in it then yank it away.
Seriously for me, we could be playing as lizard people with no customizion, as long as the gameplay is sound. It's also, First Person, meaning you aren't going to see yourself much, mainly when you get blasted.
Speaking of this subject, I don't ever remember asking for all this dress up stuff. Give me a weapon, point me the right way, and let me have at the masses. I'm tried of having to sit at the creation screens of games, fiddling around till I have someone that won't make me gouge out my eyes everytime I see them.
They would look like shit because of the artstyle. Seriously, they would be the stuff of nightmares.
On a more serious note; it would be nice if the option to make a female character was available, but I don't really mind either way. They had to make a choice.
On a more serious note; it would be nice if the option to make a female character was available, but I don't really mind either way. They had to make a choice.
I think that one of the art designers said they couldn't think of a way to make females not look like men with melons under their shirts because of the odd character design. I can't remember where I heard this but it does make a fair amount of sense when you think about it.
I think they just got lazy or ran out of money/time.
Either way, its an FPS, and most of the people that play FPS games, are dudes.
While it is silly that there are no fems in Brink, its not game shattering.
Its humorous that they say "YEAH CUSTOMIZE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR AVATAR!" but then say "but no boobs", but its their game; I didn't design the thing.
I think if there is enough QQ about it, they will release a DLC with female options, or a patch with female options, but the game isn't crippled by the fact that there are no boobs.
I'm interested in what Yahtzee is going to say about this game, lol.
BRING OUT THE GAY JOKES!
Either way, its an FPS, and most of the people that play FPS games, are dudes.
While it is silly that there are no fems in Brink, its not game shattering.
Its humorous that they say "YEAH CUSTOMIZE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR AVATAR!" but then say "but no boobs", but its their game; I didn't design the thing.
I think if there is enough QQ about it, they will release a DLC with female options, or a patch with female options, but the game isn't crippled by the fact that there are no boobs.
I'm interested in what Yahtzee is going to say about this game, lol.
BRING OUT THE GAY JOKES!
But don't you know and understand this. No matter what you do, you are always sexist-asshole-bastard. No matter what you try. Quite sad really.ZeZZZZevy said:
On topic:
Well, I really don't mind. Since I don't really understand why should there be a females in the game, for equality? Aren't game makers allowed to do a game with the content they want anymore? If they didn't have time/resources/SKILL to do a good female characters, why should have done them. I rather have no female character at all than really bad ones (Like the person I quoted said). If you can't do something properly, do not do it at all.
First off, please don't use "respect" and similar shit in a discussion like this. I just cringe seeing it and you're not doing anyone any favours, just coming off as a die hard feminist or something.
Anyway - from a marketing standpoint it makes perfect sense. How many females do you think play Brink? WoW is quite a female-prominent game and the statistics are still 80:20 in favour of males. I'm guessing Brink is below that.
So you've got the option of giving twice as many customization options to more than 80% of your playerbase (I wouldn't be surprised if the number went to 90% or even 95% frankly, but I can't support that statistically, would love seeing some numbers on it if anyone's got them) or giving half the options to 80% of your playerbase and half the options to 20%.
Now, for all of Brink's bragging about customization, let me tell you right here and now - it's customization is crap. For a game that promotes itself on being able to customize your character, you have VERY few options as far as character creation goes. You can choose from a set of heads, 3 body types that are there for gameplay reasons, not appearance ones, a few scars/tattoos and that's about it. Other than that, you have a certain number of outfits.
Cutting that in half - would make the game look bad as a whole as far as customization goes. And the female option being there would not impress anyone considering how standard it is. You have to understand, it's a big loss, but a small gain.
That said, I do support the addition of female characters. Customization is awesome and saying you don't have a budget to do a bit more modelling and animation with a game that promotes itself on customization is just plain silly. But if budget was really the issue and the choice was really between female options and twice the customization, while I don't personally like the choice they've made, I can't deny it was the right one from a game designer and marketing standpoint.
Anyway - from a marketing standpoint it makes perfect sense. How many females do you think play Brink? WoW is quite a female-prominent game and the statistics are still 80:20 in favour of males. I'm guessing Brink is below that.
So you've got the option of giving twice as many customization options to more than 80% of your playerbase (I wouldn't be surprised if the number went to 90% or even 95% frankly, but I can't support that statistically, would love seeing some numbers on it if anyone's got them) or giving half the options to 80% of your playerbase and half the options to 20%.
Now, for all of Brink's bragging about customization, let me tell you right here and now - it's customization is crap. For a game that promotes itself on being able to customize your character, you have VERY few options as far as character creation goes. You can choose from a set of heads, 3 body types that are there for gameplay reasons, not appearance ones, a few scars/tattoos and that's about it. Other than that, you have a certain number of outfits.
Cutting that in half - would make the game look bad as a whole as far as customization goes. And the female option being there would not impress anyone considering how standard it is. You have to understand, it's a big loss, but a small gain.
That said, I do support the addition of female characters. Customization is awesome and saying you don't have a budget to do a bit more modelling and animation with a game that promotes itself on customization is just plain silly. But if budget was really the issue and the choice was really between female options and twice the customization, while I don't personally like the choice they've made, I can't deny it was the right one from a game designer and marketing standpoint.
It's a great game, lots of customization, females would be a hard detail to add but, in the end, would deliver very little.
Deal with it.
Maybe now we can go on to bigger issues...
Deal with it.
Maybe now we can go on to bigger issues...
Physically men are more capable than women, call me sexist but it's true, men are generally large and stronger through history have always gone to armed combat with each other while the women were learning how to be lawyers and other useful members of society rather than cannon fodder.
Besides TF2 doesn't have any women in it and i never hear you anyone ***** about that.
Besides TF2 doesn't have any women in it and i never hear you anyone ***** about that.
For the first part. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.282209-Brink-Has-102-Quadrillion-Unique-Characters]MerlinCross said:
For the second, I agree. I wish the devs had skipped the customization and spent the time and effort making the shooting actually fun and perhaps ironing out some of the crippling bugs.
Adding females into the game would add very little in general but cost them significantly more financially in order to retexture clothing, meshes, skeleton animations etc etc, basically, they'd stand to gain very little compared to the relative cost of doing it.
Besides, this argument would have more credibility if it wasn't primarily guys getting uppity about it. (From what I've seen.)
Anyway, I'd say it's fair to assume their time is better spent ironing out the bugs in the game than adding female customisation options. That'd be fairly low down on the list of priorities.
Besides, this argument would have more credibility if it wasn't primarily guys getting uppity about it. (From what I've seen.)
Anyway, I'd say it's fair to assume their time is better spent ironing out the bugs in the game than adding female customisation options. That'd be fairly low down on the list of priorities.