Bruno

[Relish in Chaos]

Now, I've recently finished reading The Dark Knight Returns, which I bought last weekend. And there was a character in there that I found interesting: Bruno, apparently the boyfriend of the Mutant Gang's leader who wouldn't be out of place as a Nazi fetish convention. So I was wondering, why was she inserted? I've heard people say that she was based on Brigitte Nielsen, but I can't see the connection, apart from their hairstyles (Nielsen in Rocky IV).

I would just Google her, but for some reason, the Shockwave Flash on Google keeps crashing.

If you don't know who I'm talking about, here's a NSFW image (apparently, she appeared in All-Star Batman and Robin too): http://www.gophoto.it/view.php?i=http://comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/19587/The%20Dark%20Knight%20Returns%20Fan%20Cast%20Bruno.jpg

Also, I thought "Bruno" was a male given name.

 

[BlueberryMUNCH]

Bruno is definitely a male name. HUH o_o.

Not a comic reader but...that's...weird haha! Seems so...out of place.
I also do see the Brigitte Nielsen connection...but yeah...maybe it's just the hair.

Huh, strange.

 

[FalloutJack]

That IS a man. I don't care if it's got breasts. That is a man.

 

[Lionsfan]

I used to see that all the time on a TVTropes page, but of course now I can't remember it

 

[Relish in Chaos]

That IS a man. I don't care if it's got breasts. That is a man.

O...K...

 

[an annoyed writer]

Looks to be a transgender individual somewhere mid-transition. Chest reconstructed, breasts enlarged. Shoulders still noticeably wide. Hips appear to be widened somewhat. The whole "stretch marks" comment lends credence to the idea. Overall look definitely has basis on Nielsen due to skin tone, muscular framework, harsh facial features, and hairstyle. Not sure how you're missing that. Anywhoo, that's my guess. Transgendered.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

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*Gag* Is..is that a man with breast implants and swastika nipple tattoos?

OP: Dang Relish in Chaos, I thought this was a thread a bout this Bruno [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ofpRxc0GVg]. lol.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

Looks to be a transgender individual somewhere mid-transition. Chest reconstructed, breasts enlarged. Shoulders still noticeably wide. Hips appear to be widened somewhat. The whole "stretch marks" comment lends credence to the idea. Overall look definitely has basis on Nielsen due to skin tone, muscular framework, harsh facial features, and hairstyle. Not sure how you're missing that. Anywhoo, that's my guess. Transgendered.

And since you're transgender yourself, I will value your analysis greatly.

And I only "missed" the connection to Nielsen because I imagine that there'd be loads of muscular women with buzz-cuts in the world that may or may not look like Nielsen, and I don't know or haven't seen much of Nielsen other than in Rocky IV and Red Sonja. But if so, would Frank Miller (the writer and artist of The Dark Knight Returns and All-Star Batman and Robin) be implying anything by this?

I mean, the character looks to be some kind of Neo-Nazi (ironic, since the old Nazis would be entirely against someone like her). Also, even her henchmen in TDKR call her by the male name "Bruno", whereas a trans woman would be against that.

I don't know why I'm analyzing so much over a relatively minor character only featured in two Batman comic books anyway; I'm just bored and like to overthink stuff.

 

[Fwee]

Sometimes writers create strange characters in their works. I don't have any further explanation for Bruno, but perhaps Frank Miller could share some light on the subject.

 

[Raven's Nest]

OP: Dang Relish in Chaos, I thought this was a thread a bout this Bruno [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ofpRxc0GVg]. lol.

As did I. I was thinking, please God let this be somebody taking Bruno seriously because this could be a real popcorn thread!

 

[an annoyed writer]

And since you're transgender yourself, I will value your analysis greatly.

And I only "missed" the connection to Nielsen because I imagine that there'd be loads of muscular women with buzz-cuts in the world that may or may not look like Nielsen, and I don't know or haven't seen much of Nielsen other than in Rocky IV and Red Sonja. But if so, would Frank Miller (the writer and artist of The Dark Knight Returns and All-Star Batman and Robin) be implying anything by this?

I mean, the character looks to be some kind of Neo-Nazi (ironic, since the old Nazis would be entirely against someone like her). Also, even her henchmen in TDKR call her by the male name "Bruno", whereas a trans woman would be against that.

I don't know why I'm analyzing so much over a relatively minor character only featured in two Batman comic books anyway; I'm just bored and like to overthink stuff.

Well, we do know how to spot our own better than most, since we kinda have to learn how to hide unwanted secondary characteristics. I could explain a couple things for you though.

If that is indeed a transwoman, she may be one of the oddballs that likes to be in that ambiguous zone between genders where they can keep people guessing. Great tactic to baffle people, and make sure they don't know what to expect from you. The whole neo-nazi thing on the other hand? Baffles the fuck outta me.

On another note: I think the main reason why the Nielsen comparison is drawn is because Nielsen is a well-known example of the "Strong Muscular Woman With Buzzcut" archetype. Just easier to say "Bruno looks kinda like Nielsen" than "Bruno looks like the strong muscular woman with buzzcut archetype" to get the idea across quicker, because if they've seen Rocky IV, they'll have a good idea of what she looks like.

Also: overthinking is our greatest tool. Don't ever think of putting it down! I say this because I think it's great to look deep into stuff, even if it's just a character featured in two batman comics. It offers an interesting look into the minds of the creators, and what their imaginations bring to life and why. Without overthinking like that, art loses meaning because a deep, moving painting just becomes smears of pigment spread across a piece of paper, Books become scribbles on a set of pages, Television becomes just a bunch of flashing lights on the screen, and games become just that, but controllable instead of passive. So by analyzing this character, you've justified the graphic novel as art. So good job with that random overthinking. You deserve a cookie

Edit: Captcha asks "Hows it going?" Could be better, could be worse, Cap.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

And since you're transgender yourself, I will value your analysis greatly.

And I only "missed" the connection to Nielsen because I imagine that there'd be loads of muscular women with buzz-cuts in the world that may or may not look like Nielsen, and I don't know or haven't seen much of Nielsen other than in Rocky IV and Red Sonja. But if so, would Frank Miller (the writer and artist of The Dark Knight Returns and All-Star Batman and Robin) be implying anything by this?

I mean, the character looks to be some kind of Neo-Nazi (ironic, since the old Nazis would be entirely against someone like her). Also, even her henchmen in TDKR call her by the male name "Bruno", whereas a trans woman would be against that.

I don't know why I'm analyzing so much over a relatively minor character only featured in two Batman comic books anyway; I'm just bored and like to overthink stuff.

Well, we do know how to spot our own better than most, since we kinda have to learn how to hide unwanted secondary characteristics. I could explain a couple things for you though.

If that is indeed a transwoman, she may be one of the oddballs that likes to be in that ambiguous zone between genders where they can keep people guessing. Great tactic to baffle people, and make sure they don't know what to expect from you. The whole neo-nazi thing on the other hand? Baffles the fuck outta me.

On another note: I think the main reason why the Nielsen comparison is drawn is because Nielsen is a well-known example of the "Strong Muscular Woman With Buzzcut" archetype. Just easier to say "Bruno looks kinda like Nielsen" than "Bruno looks like the strong muscular woman with buzzcut archetype" to get the idea across quicker, because if they've seen Rocky IV, they'll have a good idea of what she looks like.

Also: overthinking is our greatest tool. Don't ever think of putting it down! I say this because I think it's great to look deep into stuff, even if it's just a character featured in two batman comics. It offers an interesting look into the minds of the creators, and what their imaginations bring to life and why. Without overthinking like that, art loses meaning because a deep, moving painting just becomes smears of pigment spread across a piece of paper, Books become scribbles on a set of pages, Television becomes just a bunch of flashing lights on the screen, and games become just that, but controllable instead of passive. So by analyzing this character, you've justified the graphic novel as art. So good job with that random overthinking. You deserve a cookie

Edit: Captcha asks "Hows it going?" Could be better, could be worse, Cap.

Ah, interesting. Thanks.

 

[Raven's Nest]

OP: Dang Relish in Chaos, I thought this was a thread a bout this Bruno [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ofpRxc0GVg]. lol.

As did I. I was thinking, please God let this be somebody taking Bruno seriously because this could be a real popcorn thread!

Bruno was so good, I need to rewatch it. I almost died from laughter the first time. (Well, not really, but there was one point where I couldn't breathe.)

As a film it's probably his worst but my god it has some of the most outrageously funny moments ever captured on celluloid. I'd post a video but I'll pass on the mod wrath. The part where he shows a pilot for his new show and it ends with 20 seconds of him swinging his dick around at the camera before his jap's eye says "bruno"... Fucking pissed myself!

 

[deathninja]

Bruno was so good, I need to rewatch it. I almost died from laughter the first time. (Well, not really, but there was one point where I couldn't breathe.)

I preferred Borat, but even so Bruno was a riot, only problem is that a friend who works for Chanel has the same voice, I struggle to keep a straight face on the phone.