Build-a-PC

[Snowalker]

So, Heres my plan, I wanna get a gaming computer that'll last me for the next five years. I do not have enough technical know how to build know how myself. I want a 3D computer, and I want the best graphics card money can buy at the moment. I, however, have a spending max $2,300. give or take a few bucks.

I have constructed a computer that I think is exactly what I want. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1CYACB
It can be found there.

I prefer Nvidia graphics cards. I have no knowledge of motherboards and little knowledge of processors. I would like to know if the computer up there is good enough to stay fresh for five years and if not, can you construct one and send me the link?

If thats not enough discussion value: Which is better Nvidia or ATI?

 

[Private Custard]

My brutally honest opinion. You pay $2217 for that, you're totally off your head.

You could get equal performance for half of that price if you searched around.......even with someone else putting it together.

You don't have a decent gaming HDD. The CPU is merely OK as-is, you'll need to overclock the shit out of it if you want it to stay current. The GPU is pretty nice though, I'll give you that one!

 

[Snowalker]

My brutally honest opinion. You pay $2217 for that, you're totally off your head.

You could get equal performance for half of that price if you searched around.......even with someone else putting it together.

You don't have a decent gaming HDD. The CPU is merely OK as-is, you'll need to overclock the shit out of it if you want it to stay current. The GPU is pretty nice though, I'll give you that one!

Well, to be honest, it was the only thing I was familiar with. So, thats why, and there are no computer shops in town, and I'd have to travel a bit just to find one that would build me one. I have looked around a bit on the internet and this was about the cheapest place I could find. SO, if you know where I can look to find one for cheaper, please, point me in the right direction.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

If you can't build it yourself, Origin PC yo.

Spoiler

Description
Unit Price
Price

DesktopTech: Intel P67
$1,385.00 $1,385.00


Customizations:
Premium Case Charge: None
CaseChassis: Silverstone Raven 2
CaseExteriors: Case Exterior: No Paint
CaseLighting: CaseLighting: No Lighting
CaseWindow: Case Window
The ORIGIN Difference: Truly Custom PCs. Want a component that is not on our site? Call or email us and we will include it in your system.
Included
Case Fans: None
Included
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s,)
Included
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz LGA 1155 Quad-Core Processor (6MB L3 Cache)
$41.00
System Cooling: High - Performance Air Cooling Thermalright Venomous X BLACK CPU Cooler
$65.00
Bay Devices: None
Included
Media Card Reader: None
Included
Power Supply: 750 Watt Corsair PSU
$57.00
Graphics Card: Single 1280MB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 570
$278.00
Memory: 8GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600Mhz (4x 2GB) Dual Channel Memory
$117.00
RAID Configuration: None
Included
Hard Drive One: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black - SATA-III, 6Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 64MB Cache HDD
$56.00
Hard Drive Two: None
Included
Hard Drive Three: None
Included
Hard Drive Four: None
Included
Optical Drive One: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Included
Optical Drive Two: None
Included
Audio: 8-channel High Definition Surround Sound Support
Included
Networking: Onboard Network Port
Included
Add-on Card: None
Included
Operating System: Genuine MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition
Included
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
Included
Warranty: 1 Year Part Replacement and Free Shipping Warranty with DVD image and Lifetime Support
Included


Additional Charges:

Free ORIGIN T-shirt: ORIGIN T-shirt XLarge
Primary Display: Acer GD235HZ 23.6" 1080P - 3D-Ready LCD
$379.00

Product Subtotal: $2,378.00

EDIT: Nvidia. Always Nvidia.

 

[Private Custard]

I'd advise buying components in from various different suppliers and then have someone assemble it for you. I've never built a whole computer from scratch, but have added various compnents. If you have a backup PC in the house, the internet will help you assemble it yourself.......and save yourself a tidy sum.

Shopping around is key. One place may have great deals on motherboard/CPU combos, another will specialise in cases and fans, another will do RAM at decent prices etc etc...

I'm not from the U.S. so can't advise places to shop. But many discussions on PC building on this forum over the past few months have made me aware that, with careful shopping around, you could build something epic for a price of around $1100-$1400.

EDIT: No matter how much you spend now, it won't be current in five years time. You will end up upgrading......it's how it works!

 

[Snowalker]

I'd advise buying components in from various different suppliers and then have someone assemble it for you. I've never built a whole computer from scratch, but have added various compnents. If you have a backup PC in the house, the internet will help you assemble it yourself.......and save yourself a tidy sum.

Shopping around is key. One place may have great deals on motherboard/CPU combos, another will specialise in cases and fans, another will do RAM at decent prices etc etc...

I'm not from the U.S. so can't advise places to shop. But many discussions on PC building on this forum over the past few months have made me aware that, with careful shopping around, you could build something epic for a price of around $1100-$1400.

Heres the thing, I don't have a backup PC, this is laptop. I cannot afford to waste a year or so pick up and assembling a computer because, this computer is for college, and I start next year. SO, I will almost have to buy one preassembled, on top of that, with as little knowledge as I have I could very well run the risk of destroying computer parts, (whether it be through jury-rigging or static) And I definitely can't risk all that. In five years, when I'm out of college, I plan on doing exactly what you're talking about, I need me something to last that stretch.

 

[Snowalker]

If you can't build it yourself, Origin PC yo.

Spoiler

Description
Unit Price
Price

DesktopTech: Intel P67
$1,385.00 $1,385.00


Customizations:
Premium Case Charge: None
CaseChassis: Silverstone Raven 2
CaseExteriors: Case Exterior: No Paint
CaseLighting: CaseLighting: No Lighting
CaseWindow: Case Window
The ORIGIN Difference: Truly Custom PCs. Want a component that is not on our site? Call or email us and we will include it in your system.
Included
Case Fans: None
Included
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s,)
Included
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz LGA 1155 Quad-Core Processor (6MB L3 Cache)
$41.00
System Cooling: High - Performance Air Cooling Thermalright Venomous X BLACK CPU Cooler
$65.00
Bay Devices: None
Included
Media Card Reader: None
Included
Power Supply: 750 Watt Corsair PSU
$57.00
Graphics Card: Single 1280MB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 570
$278.00
Memory: 8GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600Mhz (4x 2GB) Dual Channel Memory
$117.00
RAID Configuration: None
Included
Hard Drive One: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black - SATA-III, 6Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 64MB Cache HDD
$56.00
Hard Drive Two: None
Included
Hard Drive Three: None
Included
Hard Drive Four: None
Included
Optical Drive One: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Included
Optical Drive Two: None
Included
Audio: 8-channel High Definition Surround Sound Support
Included
Networking: Onboard Network Port
Included
Add-on Card: None
Included
Operating System: Genuine MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition
Included
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
Included
Warranty: 1 Year Part Replacement and Free Shipping Warranty with DVD image and Lifetime Support
Included


Additional Charges:

Free ORIGIN T-shirt: ORIGIN T-shirt XLarge
Primary Display: Acer GD235HZ 23.6" 1080P - 3D-Ready LCD
$379.00

Product Subtotal: $2,378.00

EDIT: Nvidia. Always Nvidia.

But you see, what I see here is,
an increase in motherboard? possibly? have no clue.
a decrease in GPU
an increase, (slightly) in cpu.
and no 3D.
and its higher.
Not that 3D is a deal breaker, cause its not, but for the little increase in cpu, and the decrease in GPU, I see no reason to go up 100$, especially considering I get a 3D monitor plus glasses with the other one.

All that aside. Thank you a ton, its one more site I can see if I can get a better deal. Much appreciation.

EDIT: Re-glancing at your post, I realize the monitor is 3D so, forgot about that complaint, however, with that set-up, I'd still have to buy the glasses, which sets you back 100$, still messing with the site. Thanks again.

 

[Private Custard]

I'd advise buying components in from various different suppliers and then have someone assemble it for you. I've never built a whole computer from scratch, but have added various compnents. If you have a backup PC in the house, the internet will help you assemble it yourself.......and save yourself a tidy sum.

Shopping around is key. One place may have great deals on motherboard/CPU combos, another will specialise in cases and fans, another will do RAM at decent prices etc etc...

I'm not from the U.S. so can't advise places to shop. But many discussions on PC building on this forum over the past few months have made me aware that, with careful shopping around, you could build something epic for a price of around $1100-$1400.

Heres the thing, I don't have a backup PC, this is laptop. I cannot afford to waste a year or so pick up and assembling a computer because, this computer is for college, and I start next year. SO, I will almost have to buy one preassembled, on top of that, with as little knowledge as I have I could very well run the risk of destroying computer parts, (whether it be through jury-rigging or static) And I definitely can't risk all that. In five years, when I'm out of college, I plan on doing exactly what you're talking about, I need me something to last that stretch.

Relax, you won't destroy it!!

It won't take you that long to pick up various components. A few evenings hard online shopping should see all the bits winging there way to you.

But if it's not a viable option, you'll have to go with plan A. But, teaching yourself to overclock should be your first aim. The CPU you're looking at should see 3.8Ghz quite comfortably with decent cooling.

 

[Snowalker]

Relax, you won't destroy it!!

It won't take you that long to pick up various components. A few evenings hard online shopping should see all the bits winging there way to you.

But if it's not a viable option, you'll have to go with plan A. But, teaching yourself to overclock should be your first aim. The CPU you're looking at should see 3.8Ghz quite comfortably with decent cooling.

Already know the basics of over clocking, not too much experience (aforementioned laptop), yet I believe I can get the hang of it. So, I knew that. Just working out wheres the cheapest for the best deal.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

If you can't build it yourself, Origin PC yo.

Spoiler

Description
Unit Price
Price

DesktopTech: Intel P67
$1,385.00 $1,385.00


Customizations:
Premium Case Charge: None
CaseChassis: Silverstone Raven 2
CaseExteriors: Case Exterior: No Paint
CaseLighting: CaseLighting: No Lighting
CaseWindow: Case Window
The ORIGIN Difference: Truly Custom PCs. Want a component that is not on our site? Call or email us and we will include it in your system.
Included
Case Fans: None
Included
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s,)
Included
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz LGA 1155 Quad-Core Processor (6MB L3 Cache)
$41.00
System Cooling: High - Performance Air Cooling Thermalright Venomous X BLACK CPU Cooler
$65.00
Bay Devices: None
Included
Media Card Reader: None
Included
Power Supply: 750 Watt Corsair PSU
$57.00
Graphics Card: Single 1280MB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 570
$278.00
Memory: 8GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600Mhz (4x 2GB) Dual Channel Memory
$117.00
RAID Configuration: None
Included
Hard Drive One: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black - SATA-III, 6Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 64MB Cache HDD
$56.00
Hard Drive Two: None
Included
Hard Drive Three: None
Included
Hard Drive Four: None
Included
Optical Drive One: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Included
Optical Drive Two: None
Included
Audio: 8-channel High Definition Surround Sound Support
Included
Networking: Onboard Network Port
Included
Add-on Card: None
Included
Operating System: Genuine MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition
Included
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
Included
Warranty: 1 Year Part Replacement and Free Shipping Warranty with DVD image and Lifetime Support
Included


Additional Charges:

Free ORIGIN T-shirt: ORIGIN T-shirt XLarge
Primary Display: Acer GD235HZ 23.6" 1080P - 3D-Ready LCD
$379.00

Product Subtotal: $2,378.00

EDIT: Nvidia. Always Nvidia.

But you see, what I see here is,
an increase in motherboard? possibly? have no clue.
a decrease in GPU
an increase, (slightly) in cpu.
and no 3D.
and its higher.
Not that 3D is a deal breaker, cause its not, but for the little increase in cpu, and the decrease in GPU, I see no reason to go up 100$, especially considering I get a 3D monitor plus glasses with the other one.

All that aside. Thank you a ton, its one more site I can see if I can get a better deal. Much appreciation.

Motherboard isn't as big a deal unless you plan on adding a heap ton of extras. 3 GPU's? Maybe.

It's a minor step down in GPU power for about half the cost. You can OC the GPU back up to equal.

Speaking of OC, that CPU is a newer architecture that works far better in about every way. Including OC. You can OC a 2600k up to 5 GHz on air alone.

And I did forget the glasses, but the monitor is 3D ready.

 

[Infinatex]

If you can't build it yourself, Origin PC yo.

Spoiler

Description
Unit Price
Price

DesktopTech: Intel P67
$1,385.00 $1,385.00


Customizations:
Premium Case Charge: None
CaseChassis: Silverstone Raven 2
CaseExteriors: Case Exterior: No Paint
CaseLighting: CaseLighting: No Lighting
CaseWindow: Case Window
The ORIGIN Difference: Truly Custom PCs. Want a component that is not on our site? Call or email us and we will include it in your system.
Included
Case Fans: None
Included
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s,)
Included
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz LGA 1155 Quad-Core Processor (6MB L3 Cache)
$41.00
System Cooling: High - Performance Air Cooling Thermalright Venomous X BLACK CPU Cooler
$65.00
Bay Devices: None
Included
Media Card Reader: None
Included
Power Supply: 750 Watt Corsair PSU
$57.00
Graphics Card: Single 1280MB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 570
$278.00
Memory: 8GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600Mhz (4x 2GB) Dual Channel Memory
$117.00
RAID Configuration: None
Included
Hard Drive One: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black - SATA-III, 6Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 64MB Cache HDD
$56.00
Hard Drive Two: None
Included
Hard Drive Three: None
Included
Hard Drive Four: None
Included
Optical Drive One: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Included
Optical Drive Two: None
Included
Audio: 8-channel High Definition Surround Sound Support
Included
Networking: Onboard Network Port
Included
Add-on Card: None
Included
Operating System: Genuine MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition
Included
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
Included
Warranty: 1 Year Part Replacement and Free Shipping Warranty with DVD image and Lifetime Support
Included


Additional Charges:

Free ORIGIN T-shirt: ORIGIN T-shirt XLarge
Primary Display: Acer GD235HZ 23.6" 1080P - 3D-Ready LCD
$379.00

Product Subtotal: $2,378.00

EDIT: ATI. Always ATI.

There you go, I fixed it for you

OT: You will be a lot better off if you build it yourself. Sounds daunting at first but it's a lot easier then you think.

 

[dududf]

Sickens me to see someone overspend so god damn heavily on a gaming pc.

No reason to spend that much money.

Fuck, if you wanted someone to assemble it, I'd do it for 30 bucks. Maybe even 20 bucks. Hell I'd charge *maybe* 50 bucks to order quality parts, for a good price and assemble it for you :|

 

[Snowalker]

Speaking of OC, that CPU is a newer architecture that works far better in about every way. Including OC. You can OC a 2600k up to 5 GHz on air alone.

And I did forget the glasses, but the monitor is 3D ready.

Thanks for the info, I'll keep it in mind. Also, realized that about the monitor, edited the post right as you said that

 

[crimson5pheonix]

If you can't build it yourself, Origin PC yo.

Spoiler

Description
Unit Price
Price

DesktopTech: Intel P67
$1,385.00 $1,385.00


Customizations:
Premium Case Charge: None
CaseChassis: Silverstone Raven 2
CaseExteriors: Case Exterior: No Paint
CaseLighting: CaseLighting: No Lighting
CaseWindow: Case Window
The ORIGIN Difference: Truly Custom PCs. Want a component that is not on our site? Call or email us and we will include it in your system.
Included
Case Fans: None
Included
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s,)
Included
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz LGA 1155 Quad-Core Processor (6MB L3 Cache)
$41.00
System Cooling: High - Performance Air Cooling Thermalright Venomous X BLACK CPU Cooler
$65.00
Bay Devices: None
Included
Media Card Reader: None
Included
Power Supply: 750 Watt Corsair PSU
$57.00
Graphics Card: Single 1280MB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 570
$278.00
Memory: 8GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600Mhz (4x 2GB) Dual Channel Memory
$117.00
RAID Configuration: None
Included
Hard Drive One: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black - SATA-III, 6Gb/s, 7,200RPM, 64MB Cache HDD
$56.00
Hard Drive Two: None
Included
Hard Drive Three: None
Included
Hard Drive Four: None
Included
Optical Drive One: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Included
Optical Drive Two: None
Included
Audio: 8-channel High Definition Surround Sound Support
Included
Networking: Onboard Network Port
Included
Add-on Card: None
Included
Operating System: Genuine MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition
Included
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
Included
Warranty: 1 Year Part Replacement and Free Shipping Warranty with DVD image and Lifetime Support
Included


Additional Charges:

Free ORIGIN T-shirt: ORIGIN T-shirt XLarge
Primary Display: Acer GD235HZ 23.6" 1080P - 3D-Ready LCD
$379.00

Product Subtotal: $2,378.00

EDIT: Nvidia. Always Nvidia.

There you go, I fixed it for you

OT: You will be a lot better off if you build it yourself. Sounds daunting at first but it's a lot easier then you think.

Thank you.

Now then, on to why AMD should just get out of the GPU game

 

[KaosuHamoni]

My future build

i7 2600k Sandy Bridge CPU
ASUS P8P67 Pro Mobo
Corsair H70 Water cooler
Corsair Dominator GT Twin X 8 GB DDR3 2000MHz Ram
Corsair HX 1000W modular PSU
SAMSUNG Bluray + DVDRW x12 Combo
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SataIII HDD x2
OCZ Vertex 2 80Gb SSD - Boot drive
EVGA GTX 570
Coolermaster HAF-X Case

 

[Killermud]

Look at Digital Storm's Black Ops Assassin series, looks nice but so over-priced.
Here's one of their models named 'Level 2' heres the basics :
Intel Core i7 2600K CPU
8GB DDR3 1600MHz Memory
NVIDIA GTX 570 GPU

More details [http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=477405]

But seriously you'd be better off buying the parts yourself and building it yourself, there are plenty of guides out there on how to build your own PC, do some research on some parts and look around for the best deal and you'll save alot.

 

[Delusibeta]

Wait. So you want a Core i7, which is more than enough as it is, and then get it factory overclocked umpteen times? Can't help but feel that you're paying though the nose for the motherboard and the graphics card, and even if you really want to pay though the nose, the omission of a SSD boot drive is curious.

Ultimately, I'll chime in with what everyone else says: build it yourself.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

EDIT: ATI. Always ATI.

There you go, I fixed it for you

But but but... nVidia cards cost more so they must be better!

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Now then, on to why AMD should just get out of the GPU game

So nVidia can sell their power hungry ovens disguised as GPUs at stupidly high prices without any competition?

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I do not have enough technical know how to build know how myself.

Here's my question... why the hell are you having a watercooling system installed if you don't even have the technical knowledge to build a rig? Those aren't something you want to have to troubleshoot if you don't really know computers.