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The GTX 580 is a helluva card; I've got one running now, and the thing runs pretty cool, in all honesty.RhombusHatesYou said:But but but... nVidia cards cost more so they must be better!XinfiniteX said:There you go, I fixed it for you
You really ought to try building your own rig. I built mine a few months back with little/no experience beforehand, and it turned out great. Besides saving on money (or appropriating said money for better hardware), you feel an extra sense of accomplishment, having a tower you personally constructed at your side.
P.S.: Hasn't the "Sandy Bridge" architecture come out at this point? If so, don't those CPU's beat out the last gen chipsets? I don't know too much about the 1155 motherboards, but wouldn't they be a better investment towards the future?
It's nothing too incredibly difficult; with both methods of cooling (be it air or liquid-based), some maintenance is involved. Water cooling simply takes a bit more effort on a more frequent basis.Snowalker said:
This is what you'd get yourself into: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how_to_maintain_your_watercooling_setup
if this doesn't seem too daunting, go ahead and get the liquid cooling. It can be more complicated, but it will indeed achieve better performance.
If you find this task to be a no-brainer, I can't see why you're so concerned about being unable to assemble your own rig. You could find much greater deals via ordering the parts from different locations, and they would still arrive at the same time as your pre-built idea, if not sooner.Snowalker said:
Actually, it won't cost you any time at all if you completely fuck up because a total fuck up with a watercooling system often means you're leaking on your components, which is bad. Just don't forget to check all the connections after it arrives BEFORE putting anything in the resevoir.Snowalker said:
If you want to get into watercooling without all the pissfucking around, check out the Corsair H70 Water cooler as mentioned by KaosuHamoni. Completely enclosed single unit, way less maintenance, piss easy to install and cheaper than a full blown watercooling system. Not as efficient and doesn't support a shitpot of cool cooling-based case mods but better for a beginner, IMO.
For $2300 you could build the sexist gaming beast around...
If you're looking to spend that much I'd hold off until Q3 2011 if possible, that's when Intel Socket R is release, which will blow everything on today's market away.
If you're looking to spend that much I'd hold off until Q3 2011 if possible, that's when Intel Socket R is release, which will blow everything on today's market away.
Yeah, if you're confident with removing and later reseating a CPU waterblock for maintenance there's nothing daunting about putting together your own rig.shado_temple said:
Not that hard to build a PC, plug chips into where they look like they fit
Seriously though, don't pay that much for a PC, watercooling means jackall unless you know how to overclock your system, if you don't know how to do that then save your money and buy a better processor/GPU.
Seriously though, don't pay that much for a PC, watercooling means jackall unless you know how to overclock your system, if you don't know how to do that then save your money and buy a better processor/GPU.
That the Ivy Bridge CPUs? 22nm tastiness.mindlesspuppet said:
The fact that 22nm architecture is only 12-24 months away (depending on your manufacturer preferences) is why my current rebuild will be sticking with 45nm architecture to keep things cheap so I'll have the money to switch up to 22nm when it drops. I've decided to skip 32nm because it's going to have a short product life.
Man, for every PC thread, we get the nVidia vs ATi wars. It's personal preference. Both card manufacturers are currently making roughly equivalent cards. The only thing I could add into this discussion is on the topic of GTX 580 vs the Radeon HD 6970, the 6970 gives you about 90% of the power (usually more) and it costs you $100 less, takes less power, and doesn't heat up as much.
For most reviews of equivalent cards from either manufacturer, I see results that are either mixed benefits from one game to the next, or incredibly minimal advantages going one side or the other.
With the amount of cash you have, you can build yourself one hell of a PC. Instead of going single card, consider getting dual GTX 570s or Radeon HD 6870s.
For most reviews of equivalent cards from either manufacturer, I see results that are either mixed benefits from one game to the next, or incredibly minimal advantages going one side or the other.
With the amount of cash you have, you can build yourself one hell of a PC. Instead of going single card, consider getting dual GTX 570s or Radeon HD 6870s.
Hell, motherboards usually come with big colourful maps to tell you everything you need to know about what goes where. I thought about getting the maps from my fave mobos blockmounted to hang on my walls... because I'm a great big nerd.Ossian said:Not that hard to build a PC, plug chips into where they look like they fit
Ivy Bridge is using the 1155 socket, the socket 2011's should even them away. They'll likely be expensive, but with 2300 for a system wouldn't be a problem.RhombusHatesYou said:
I'm holding my judgement on that topic untill I start seeing some apples to apples number comparisons between the new Bulldozer cores and the Sandy bridge cores. I'm extremely curious about the dozers, actually. The edea behind the redesign of the chip makes sense. It'll mark the biggest shift in architecture for AMD since the Althlon if I'm not mistaken.RhombusHatesYou said:We could change things up and have an Intel V AMD war if you want.Zer_ said:
And to that, I wait patiently.
Hey your among nerds, that sounds awesome. Might not be so great to bring a girl over too, they might be impressed though.RhombusHatesYou said:Hell, motherboards usually come with big colourful maps to tell you everything you need to know about what goes where. I thought about getting the maps from my fave mobos blockmounted to hang on my walls... because I'm a great big nerd.Ossian said:Not that hard to build a PC, plug chips into where they look like they fit
Ah, just read up on them. New socket to handle the extreme high end of the SB CPUs (6 and 8 core), the ones it appears will be released as CPUs rather than APUs with on-die GPU. Will probably be the same for IBs - Socket R for the extreme high end CPUs.mindlesspuppet said:
Personally, I'm going to hold off until the 22nm version of Bulldozer (or whatever AMD decide to name it, probably something exciting like Bulldozer II knowing them)... because I'm both an AMD fanboy (had nothing but bad luck with Intel) and it'll take me at least that long to save up for it.
Yeah but not long after that Intel drops the Ivy Bridge cores... and then 3-12 months later the 22nm version of the 'dozers drop. 32nm is going to have a very short life in flagship lines.Zer_ said: