Building a new PC.

[VladG]

Where the hell did you read they are based on Athlons? A8 APUs are based on mobile Phenom architecture while FX-8150 (and the other Bulldozers) are based on Opteron architectures. Oh, you might notice that AMD actually has different types of APUs, and you have yet to answer my question, what APU exactly are you using? And much more to the point, does it actually have the power to max out games? If not, please stop wasting everyone's time, and find a thread that wants "a 300pound pc that plays games... kinda"

Regardless of the answer, I won't bother replying. You don't know what you're talking about, are wasting my time, and the OPs if he's even bothering to read this anymore.

And if you want performance gaming, A8 IS crap. You can get better results with cheaper CPUs.

Wow, the ignorance.

The llano APUs are based on the Athlon II cores.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review

For $98 you can buy an Athlon II X4 640 running at 3.0GHz. For $37 more AMD will sell you an A8-3850 APU, effectively determining the price of the integrated GPU.

[...]

These are all quad-core parts with updated 32nm cores, boasting a ~6% increase in IPC over their 45nm Athlon II predecessors

[...]
Although AMD has tweaked the A8's cores, the 2.9GHz 3850 performs a lot like a 3.1GHz Athlon II X4. You are getting more performance at a lower clock frequency, but not a lot more.

I'm running a desktop A8, like I mentioned. I assumed you don't need things said explicitly but it seems you can't do that at all.

Also, want more proof that this is an Athlon II?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-athlon-ii-x4-631-s-fm1-lynx-core-quad-core-26ghz-100w-retail

Notice how you can buy an Athlon II X4 for the APU socket? Gee, it's almost like they are selling the APUs with no integrated graphics...

Also, it's not like I'm going to be talking about Trinity which isn't even out yet. And before you try to backpedal, it is based on Piledriver. I have no clue where you got phenom from.


Your knowledge is shockingly lacking and your aggression just makes it all the more hilarious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Maybe you should take a read.

Holy Shit! A8 is based on Athlon?? Quick, go alert AMD, they still think they are mobile phenom based. Go enlighten the manufacturer of his error!


"Llano" (32 nm)


All models feature upgraded Stars (Mobile Phenom II architecture) [28] CPU cores (Husky) with no L3 cache"

And in case you're not clear on this, the A8 is a Llano device.

Also Piledriver is a modifier Bulldozer core. And I never said Bulldozer is based of Phenoms. maybe the little voices in your head told you that, I wouldn't know.

Mnyeah. My knowledge is lacking.

 

[VladG]

Holy Shit! A8 is based on Athlon?? Quick, go alert AMD, they still think they are mobile phenom based. Go enlighten the manufacturer of his error!


"Llano" (32 nm)


All models feature upgraded Stars (Mobile Phenom II architecture) [28] CPU cores (Husky) with no L3 cache"

And in case you're not clear on this, the A8 is a Llano device.

So I talk about the desktop A8 and you quote a review for the mobile variant? Give it up, you know you have lost. Also, cite some sources, like I have.

I looked at your source, it was a wikipedia page that talks about the desktop APUs and cites Tom's Hardware's Mobile APU review. Not exactly convincing.

The desktop A8's, the ones we have been talking about, are based of Athlon II. Hence the Athlon II's for sale on the FM1 socket, like I had showed.

"If you can't convince them confuse them"

I think that's what you are doing. We were never talking about mobile parts, your whole post was a red herring.

I won't mind if you don't post back, there is no shame in defeat as long as you learn from your mistakes.

Dear lord. Yes, we're talking about desktops. You are incapable of reading though, that's clear.

Let's try this again.

"Llano" (32 nm)


>>>>>>All<<<<< models feature upgraded Stars (Mobile Phenom II architecture) [28] CPU cores (Husky) with no L3 cache"

Now just to make it clear for you, the word ALL means that it includes both desktop and mobile Llano cores. That's how English works. That means ALL Llano cores are base of old MOBILE cores. You understand how this works now?

Also here's a source that closely analyses Llano architecture. I'm also looking into official AMD specs, stand by
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/06/20/a-llook-at-the-llano-architecture/