Button Mashmania!

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-bladerunner-

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Today for the first time I lost to my little bro at Halo 3 and this was due to button mashing! I didn'tbelieve it he just hit all the buttons at once when he saw me and killed me! Maybe I was having a bad day? Anyway I'm so frustrated by button mashing in games such as Soulcaliber IV, how do you think button mashing could be stopped? Do you do it?
 

Peach_hat

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Bladerunner + DMC, good man.

If you're good enough at anything just play the waiting game.
Dominate them after their big move or something.
 

Fire Daemon

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All the buttons at once? So he fired, reloaded, jumped, swapped weapons, use his equipment, threw a grenade and swapped between his grenades all at the same time and some how managed to kill you? I don't know if you play Halo a lot but the usual way to kill people is to either take off their shield with a grenade and then use a few shots or a melee to kill them. You probably saw him tapping B (and maybe jumping) while firing but from your perspective he was mashing the controller. Maybe he has a specific controller set up with fire set to the control (not sure if you can do that though). I don't think your making this up but being killed 25 times by a guy randomly hitting buttons in Halo 3 sounds very unlikely. Admit it man, your brothers pwns you.

I don't mind Button Mashers like SC4 and SSBB because both players can mash the fuck out their controllers, it isn't like only player 2 mashes the buttons. When both players are going crazy on the controller trying to pull off a sweet move, the game gets pretty fun. Button Mashers tend to such with Single Player though. Mashing like crazy when fighting robots isn't as fun.
 

Conqueror Kenny

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Bob_F_It said:
How do you button mash in an FPS?
Look in their general direction tap loads of buttons and bullets and grenades fly at them.

Fighting games are easy to stop button mashing. Step back, sidestep during their combos and unload from the side.
 
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I also hate Button-Mashers,
in fighting games like DBZ Burst-Limit, or Soul Calibur,
it's just infuriating when you cant get a hit in!
after ages of mastering the combos and stuff!
 

Bob_F_It

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You could just take some cover from fire and keep a short ranged weapon handy.
 

-bladerunner-

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Peach_hat said:
Bladerunner + DMC, good man.

If you're good enough at anything just play the waiting game.
Dominate them after their big move or something.
Thanks. Anyway He just pushed all the buttons at once and so I had a barrage of random grenades and weapons fire coming my way all at once. Oh and you can't take cover very effectively in Halo 3 as people can jump 8 feet.

Good idea but I was generally too busy doging fire and his grenades were insanely lucky they kept hitting me!
 

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Kahoony117 said:
I also hate Button-Mashers,
in fighting games like DBZ Burst-Limit, or Soul Calibur,
it's just infuriating when you cant get a hit in!
after ages of mastering the combos and stuff!
All those times mastering moves and combos and you did not master the sublime art of Guard Impact? I kid, I kid.

I also hate them. I just use Cervantes the next time and get it over with (this was pre SC4, cuz I have no current gen console and my Ceramic White PS2 is no longer Ceramic White from gathering dust).
 

Vlane

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zhoomout said:
Kahoony117 said:
I also hate Button-Mashers,
in fighting games like DBZ Burst-Limit, or Soul Calibur,
it's just infuriating when you cant get a hit in!
after ages of mastering the combos and stuff!
I never saw Soul Calibur as a button masher. Dive in, throw them, duck out and repeat. If you realy have trouble then play the ice level (I only own no. 2 so I don't know if the others have this) and those button mashers will slide to their doom every time. I found the only games worth mastering the combos of are Mortal Kombat 2 and that other one I can't remember the name of now. That's my fault for leaving all my good games at uni!
Soul Calibur IV also has one of those ice levels too.

But yes, your strategy is the best when it comes to online play but in some game modes you will have a problem if you use that. Some enemies can avoid throws altogether.
 

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Learning to be better involves paying attention to what you do, breaking it down and improving it. Because of this, some part of your focus (30% for instance) is on yourself, and you can only spare 70% on observing the situation.

In comparison, the button masher can keep 100% of his attention on you. That's why he is likely to win more for a while.

Of course once you improve to the point where you are even (your 70% equals his 100%) and slightly over, he suddenly doesn't have even a shadow of a chance. You will only keep improving, while he stays put. If he wants to chase after you, he'll have to do the same thing you did (to divert some of his focus on himself) but then he'll lose even more miserably for a good while. So he's not very likely to do it at this point. This is the real reason why button mashing sucks - if your playmate is a button masher, before long there is no point in playing against him at all.

About what Fire Daemon said (what if he isn't a button masher but just better than you?). Whether this is so is very easy to test. Just put 100% of your focus on winning, don't try to do anything fancy but button mash yourself! If the result of that test is that the score evens up, then he's winning due to the button mashing, which - like I said - is short lived. If the score doesn't even up, he's simply a better player than you and you need to improve to beat him.

In fighting games, the easiest way to beat a button masher is keeping your distance. Learn by heart a small handful of high-damage, relatively fast and safe attacks for different ranges. Poking low attacks that knock him down are gold! Pre-emptively control the distance by dashing away. (In the case of SC, also learn one good, fast, mid-range horizontal attack you can use to catch the opponent if he closes in by diagonal run.) From every distance, snipe with the best attack for that particular distance. The button masher, not planning his moves, is very unlikely to use a move that has enough range to get to you, while your move always gets him.