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Creator1234

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Hello there!

Ok Im finally considering making the leap to PC gaming from Console gaming, but My current Desktop PC is well... crap and cant even run the likes of L4D or TF2 so what im saying is Is there a Desktop Computer for £300 or less that can easily run these games

I think I found one but im not sure can someone tell me if this pc is any good:
Intel Celeron E1400 Dual Core (2.00GHz, 512KB)
Windows Vista
1GB DDR 2 Memory
160GB SATA hard drive(7200 rpm)
256MB NVIDIA Geforce 7050 Graphics
Dual Layer DVD rewriter
6x USB ports
10/100 Network Lan Port

Any Replys would really Help THANKS!
 

ZeroMachine

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I would say most likely not... but if you search around enough, you could probably find a 500$ one that could.

My honest suggestion, though, would be to save up and make a custom made one.
 

Creator1234

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Ok I found another PC can someone give me advice PLEASE
http://www.staples.co.uk/technology/desktop-pcs/hp-compaq-presario-cq5004uk-desktop-pc-amd-sempron-dual-core-processor-2300-3gb-ram-160gb-hard-drive-windows-vista-home-premium-32-bit/compaq-presario-cq5004uk-desktop-pc-amd-sempron-dual-core-processor-2300-3gb-ram-160gb-hard-drive-windows-vista-home-premium-32-bit

or there is this one sam pc(i think) but this has nearly twice as much hard drive memory:
http://www.staples.co.uk/technology/pcs-and-laptops/desktop-pcs/cq5105-desktop-pc-amd-phenom-x3-processor-8750-3gb-ram-640gb-hard-drive-windows-vista-home-premium
 

Nevyrmoore

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If you want a good gaming rig, I recommend you stay away from the stuff Dell and the like sell and either build your own, or go to a company that would gladly build it to your own specification for a decent price. It's no big deal to ask what a mid-end gaming rig would contain.

Also, 32-bit Vista? I say go with 64-bit. You're able to use a lot more RAM.
Also, there is Windows 7 just around the corner, and it appears to be worth waiting for that.
 

Avaholic03

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Vista needs at least 2GB of RAM. Preferably 4GB if you want to use it for more than email and stuff.
 

Nevyrmoore

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Avaholic03 said:
Vista needs at least 2GB of RAM. Preferably 4GB if you want to use it for more than email and stuff.
Bearing in mind that what has been chosen is the 32-bit version of Vista, rendering it incapable of using anything over roughly 3 GB of RAM.
 

TelHybrid

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Dude just learn how to make your own custom one. It's miles cheaper and you get so much more for your money. If necessary ask a friend who's rather geeky.
 

Creator1234

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TelHybrid said:
Dude just learn how to make your own custom one. It's miles cheaper and you get so much more for your money. If necessary ask a friend who's rather geeky.
Im tempted, but I wouldnt know where to start, i dont even know what FULL computer too buy and my geeky mate has been building a computer for years... all be it hes been EXTREMLY distracted by food and water...
 

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Yes, some good advice so far. I'm upgrading to a new computer for work and going with 64-bit Windows 7 with 6 GB of DDR 3 RAM. You're going to have to shell out a bit more, but you will get by for longer.

Computer cycles really only last 3 years, but this is just the beginning of the 64-bit cycle so it should last a while.
 

Starnerf

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You'll need a better CPU, a discrete graphics card (not absolutely necessary but a good idea) and more RAM (if running Vista).

You could try this one: http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=364175&CatId=0

The graphics should be sufficient for TF2, but don't expect anything very good. For a graphics upgrade you could get this: http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=362982&CatId=0

That should handle TF2 just fine, but I don't know what kind of power supply that PC has so it may be insufficient for that card.
 

TelHybrid

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Creator1234 said:
TelHybrid said:
Dude just learn how to make your own custom one. It's miles cheaper and you get so much more for your money. If necessary ask a friend who's rather geeky.
Im tempted, but I wouldnt know where to start, i dont even know what FULL computer too buy and my geeky mate has been building a computer for years... all be it hes been EXTREMLY distracted by food and water...
Years? WTF I built my computer in about a couple of hours once all the parts arrived. He can't be THAT geeky. :S
 

Nevyrmoore

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Creator1234 said:
TelHybrid said:
Dude just learn how to make your own custom one. It's miles cheaper and you get so much more for your money. If necessary ask a friend who's rather geeky.
Im tempted, but I wouldnt know where to start, i dont even know what FULL computer too buy and my geeky mate has been building a computer for years... all be it hes been EXTREMLY distracted by food and water...
Try checking out Tom's Hardware. There's a guide there on how to build your own PC. In fact there are several on the Web.

Here's part one of that guide on Tom's Hardware. [http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/building-pc,511.html]
 

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TelHybrid said:
Creator1234 said:
TelHybrid said:
Dude just learn how to make your own custom one. It's miles cheaper and you get so much more for your money. If necessary ask a friend who's rather geeky.
Im tempted, but I wouldnt know where to start, i dont even know what FULL computer too buy and my geeky mate has been building a computer for years... all be it hes been EXTREMLY distracted by food and water...
Years? WTF I built my computer in about a couple of hours once all the parts arrived. He can't be THAT geeky. :S
i guess his friend just isnt geeky enough.
 

RanD00M

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It looks good.Only needs a little better Video Card and at least 1 more gig of RAM.
 

Alberio

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I didnt think i would be able to build my own PC either but earlier this year I took the leap and finally did it. It took a few months as I had to save up but little by little I bought all the components and ended up with the following:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual Core Processor AM2 2.3GHZ 2X512KB
2GB RAM
An Asus M2N68-CM Mother board
Radeon HD 4670 GPU
450w power supply
Windows xp Professional
On top of that I also got a case bundle which also included the mouse, keyboard and speakers.

All that came to a total of around £270. It may not have the best specs but it plays the games I throw at really well.
If you were to build your own I would recommend looking at tutorials such as the ones Lifehacker did a while back. The go into a great deal of detail and help you avoid making common mistakes.
 

gRiM_rEaPeRsco

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Computer components are quite cheap these days so i would suggest building your own but if you only want to spend £300 stick with your console.
 

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Creator1234 said:
Hello there!

Ok Im finally considering making the leap to PC gaming from Console gaming, but My current Desktop PC is well... crap and cant even run the likes of L4D or TF2 so what im saying is Is there a Desktop Computer for £300 or less that can easily run these games

I think I found one but im not sure can someone tell me if this pc is any good:
Intel Celeron E1400 Dual Core (2.00GHz, 512KB)
Windows Vista
1GB DDR 2 Memory
160GB SATA hard drive(7200 rpm)
256MB NVIDIA Geforce 7050 Graphics
Dual Layer DVD rewriter
6x USB ports
10/100 Network Lan Port

Any Replys would really Help THANKS!
Like the others, I would suggest researching what each piece of hardware is doing for your computer so that you can understand which specs are important when making a purchase.

The best way to get a gaming computer for the best price, is to select each part yourself. It'll be a better computer, and at a cheaper price. If you don't know how to assemble a computer there are online stores that let you select each part online and they'll put it together for you (it'll cost about 100-150USD more, but it should also come with a warranty on the whole PC as well, which is easier than dealing with a whole bunch of individual part warranties). But the internet is there to teach you how to put it together yourself, and they come with manuals anyway. Putting a computer together is simple, not much more involved than sticking things into the holes that fit, so I'd encourage saving money by learning to do it yourself.

To learn about each type of component, I'd recommend just reading reviews on products in that category. I'd start with Toms Hardware, or HardOCP (www.hardforum.com has categorized forums where you can ask questions about each specific part. Everybody there wants to help you.)

General rule of thumb, you want to get technology that's at least one step BEHIND the cutting edge. The most advanced product is extremely expensive, but when they are released, the previous product is reduced in price.

Store bundles are generally rubbish. The problems with the PC in the OP are:
1)A weak CPU(Try looking for a core 2 duo, and perhaps at a slightly higher clockspeed. o)
2)Only 1gb of ram (2GB of ram is cheap of obtain and it's a BIG step up from 1gb. But keep in mind the speed of the RAM matters as well, the motherboard determines what RAM speed is usable. You don't need more than 2gb of ram in your situation.
3)A weak GPU(You'd want a geforce 8800 or better).

7200 rpm is fine for the harddrive, because faster RPM stuff costs quite a bit more, for not a whole lot of improvement in load time. Not a big upgrade priority from a bang-for-buck perspective.

USB ports, and network ports aren't important to look at since they come with any motherboard, and the disc drive is easily upgraded(but just about any disc drive is good enough)

Don't worry about overclocking, it'll just make things complicated. Most people don't do it, and all of them don't need to. It's just a hobby.

It's really not that hard to research, and it's very rewarding. This will be a significant purchase so being informed will make the best use of your money. Take your time, prices will only go down in the meantime anyway. Always read reviews for any product you're considering. Ideally a review including comparisons to competing products.

300GBP (~475USD) is ambitious for a gaming PC, but it should be doable I think. Good luck!