by tomorrow, mostly all of you will be breaking the law.

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tomtom94

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JuryNelson said:
tomtom94 said:
JuryNelson said:
tomtom94 said:
Don't you see? The political parties have no choice. It's called lobbying.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Probably not. I think it means the big companies paying the politicians to get the legislation they want.
What does it actually mean?
Big companies pay individuals to convince the politicians to pass the legislation they want. The politicians have a choice.
We still get the laws the rich pay for as opposed to the laws the poor need, though.
 

Motakikurushi

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Ooh, that's a fairly communist thing to do America! Have we turned over a new leaf?
Sorry, you can't arrest that many people. You need humans to run a country, and there are very few humans who have never broken a copyright law. Hell, it's how some people make a living.
 

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You know if this goes through it will eventually turn against those corporations. Depending on how many people they go after. People might stop getting things from them out of spite and stuff. Let's say kid downloads song from internet. corporation penalizes parents for something they didn't see happen. Parents get angry decide to get things from somewhere else and not them. It will give a bad name to the company and they will have less customers
 

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A heedless and harrowing future is developing for our generation and generations to come. And as I walk the chartered streets of this unfamiliar oblivion, I recognize nothing but unyielding consciousness in which we have almost comfortably drowned.

It is madness. This normality is madness. We are clinging to manufactured crippling constraints. We must no longer commute between brand-ladened homes and quickly accepted aimless roams from our factories of slavery, to raws of elusive bravery.

We must unite!

And we must let the floodgates open.

-Enter Shikari-
-Common Dreads-

This song has basically become the theme behind my own anti-ACTA thoughts.

This will end. But either way, it will not end well.
 

Andothul

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If i skimed this treaty right it seems to me that the only people who havde to worry about this are people who constantly take and or sell information.media etc on the internet illegally.

Basically you're ISP number will be flagged and your ISP may investigate what exactly you are doing thats sending out so many red flags.

Therefore unless you are ripping movies,tv shows and passwords off websites or typing in "how to bomb a skyscraper" in google 1000 times i really don't think the average person will be affected much by this privacy wise.

Essential ISP's could always invade your privacy if you were being bad, its just with this treaty they can report it without legal repercussions.

Edit: I don't think they are talking about individual machines here anyways, although the language is sketchy. Sounds like remotely activated services like web servers to me.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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Jack and Calumon said:
Yep, and in preparation I have ripped all of my CDs onto my computer and loaded them onto my MP3 player. Besides, they're only fine tuning it. It won't come into practice for a while. Government laws never do. Except Marshall law. Man these sentences are so disjointed.

Calumon: ACTA? Sounds like someone trying to finish off a Pokemon move before coughing!

Red: Go Pikachu! Quick ACTA!
Need a tissue?

OT: Well, it is going to be incrediably hard to enforce... as well very expensive.
 

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This definitely sounds like one of those things that could never happen.
It does doesn't it? But apparently it is happening. Frankly I'm a bit scared, because having pictures on your computer will legally be punishable with fines an jailtime, even just stuff like wallpapers for your computer are technically breaking ACTA.

Doesn't it just sound like it was thought up by soccer mums?

Oh yeah, I'm also gonna have to nuke my computer if it is passed.
 

Eggsnham

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Corwynt said:
Eggsnham said:
I'm moving to the Moon. Fuck that.
If the moon people sign it then not even the moon will be safe. I also hear the internet connection there is shit.
Yeah, but most of the people there are liberal as hell.

I can deal with a bad connection if it means that the government doesn't get to see how much porn I watch.
 

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chinangel said:
it won't be signed until late september and the odds of it passing are SO small. Microscopically small. Why? Because it effects too many people. It's just idiotic so it won't get out.
Heh, as if governments haven't done anything idiotic before!

So it could be out tommorrow...Dammit, I was gonna get to ripping my entire dragonforce collection to my phone, now it's too late.

If it does pass, I may have to become the nerdiest Sam Fisher impersonator ever and break out of jail using sheer rage induced infite mark and execute.