California Library Under Fire For Black Ops Tournament

MagicMouse

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So their argument is that if the kids go to the library for the violent video games then they will never go to the library for books?

That is stupid. If they were going in there for books before, then this won't stop them. And if they weren't going in there for books before, this can have no deterrence.

If anything it will expose the people to the books, but you guys already knew that.
 

DiMono

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The world will be a better place when people stop complaining about video games. Throughout history the same thing has happened to books and movies, and now they're both considered art forms. So take comfort, it's just a matter of time.
 

VFPer

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The newspaper article did not have all the facts (big surprise). Players do NOT enter the library, they go through a separate door, and in the past have not seen books or been offered a library card. The library will not us violent civilian games like Grand Theft Auto but has no problem using violent war games. The protest is not mainly about the games and their influence (on this there is disagreement) but many Sacramentans feel that a public library should not promote war, even in the guise of games.
 

Tirnor

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VFPer said:
The newspaper article did not have all the facts (big surprise). Players do NOT enter the library, they go through a separate door, and in the past have not seen books or been offered a library card. The library will not us violent civilian games like Grand Theft Auto but has no problem using violent war games. The protest is not mainly about the games and their influence (on this there is disagreement) but many Sacramentans feel that a public library should not promote war, even in the guise of games.
From the choice of handle, I'm assuming that you are with the "Veterans for Peace" association mentioned in TFA.

Now, let's assume you are a veteran as the name implies. If so, I wish to take the time to thank you for your service to our country. I have great respect for your opinion on war and the violence it entails, and do not wish to belittle your sacrifice or discount your performed duty in any way.

Having said that... I work in a library. I have for more than a few years now. I also have run multiple video game tourneys, young adult programs, and general technology classes in the pursuit of getting children, teens, and young adults accustom to spending time at the library. From the experience I have in dealing with children, teens, parents and "concerned non-child-having citizens", I can tell you that very few people not in that last group really feel the "connection" between game violence and warfare. In fact, almost goes without saying (but I'll say it anyway) that the action/shooter genre is the most requested by the former three groups for use in such events. (Personally, I push RTS... my first even was run around Age of Empires.. if that tells you how long I've been trying to get tech in Libraries)

As far as "promoting war"... I'm going to guess you don't spend much time monitoring library events outside of hot-button issues. Between all the DAR essays, WWII Geneology "events", and Civil War stuff... you'd think history was all about war.

EDIT: Forgot to address the "outside door" and library card issues.. without having the floor plan and library schedule in front of me, I'm going to make a guess here. I'd wager that like my library, their library has it's largest meeting room "outside" of the library proper with outside access to facilitate it's usage by large groups of people and to allow for use at hours when the library itself is not open to the public. This is just a matter of how it was constructed.. something I'll wager had NO input from actual Librarians that work there, so let's not blame them for that. Also, I have yet to meet a librarian that didn't remind the attendees of ANY event that there were cards and materials related to said event available in the Library... but I could be wrong.
 

spartan231490

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Idiots, in my experience, gamers read more than non-gamers. Stop being retarded and grow up anti-video game people.
 

markisb

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damn i wish my labrary had gaming tournaments.
i think
Tom Goldman said:
Besides, once dozens of teenagers enter a library, I bet at least a few would end up wandering over to the history section to read a little bit about what Black Ops' conflicts were fought over, and that's really the ultimate goal isn't it?
is exactly right i havent been to the library in years and i would definatly go more often if they had gaming touraments.
 

The Admiral

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My public library can't afford the computers or consoles to do something like this. They did try a game night once, but all they had was DDR. The university library, on the other hand, holds game tournaments every month. The month before last was an Unreal Tournament tournament.
 

Harmondale2

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wow, anti video-game activists really need to find a new hobby, and thank you libary people for standing up for yourselves against their ignorence! YAY Libary! :D