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Psychedelic Spartan

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Well, seeing as I'm on winter break now, I don't have anything else to do. Might as well join it, so it looks like I'm playing the xbox version of minecraft all day tomorrow!
 

SageRuffin

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teh_Canape said:
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teh_Canape said:
SageRuffin said:
Besides, I was always more of a melee person anyway.
well they've been blaming Dynasty Warriors as well

so yeah =P
Well... fuck.
see? these media guys truly cover all scenarios, don't they
Granted, I don't play DW but I know the implications behind it.

Ah well. There's always Magic. :D
 

Abomination

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Sorry, but this is just a more elaborate version of
"lke dis if u cry evry tiem"

It also can be read that FPS gaming is responsiable for this type of thing.
 

Abomination

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wombat_of_war said:
GonzoGamer said:
I can't play CoD with just knives. I get my ass kicked already.

I can appreciate the sentiment but wouldn't it be a lot better to get people to stop shooting REAL guns for a day? If they can get that to happen, I'll stop shooting digital guns for a day.

I still find it interesting that people insist that this is EITHER a gun control issue OR a mental health issue when it's obviously both.

How long would it have taken a mentally ill person to shoot 27 people back when the 2nd amendment was written?
a very experienced soldier could load and fire 4 times a minute
So that's 5 shots per minute for the first minute, which assumes he is even accurate considering he's using a smoothebore musket and is able to load while running after his now fleeing targets.

The issue is, as always, how easy it is for a mentally unstable person to have access to guns. Considering how so many people have them it's quite simple for him to "borrow" one.

A lunatic in New Zealand is lucky if he can steal a golf club, let alone semi-automatic rifles.
 

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Given the amount of preparation he went through, it isn't unreasonable to say he could've taken the time to whip up homemade explosives and stuffed them in the car. Guns are by no means the most deadly, devastating, or easy-to-obtain weapons out there. The first WTC bombing cost the bomber less than the price of a Glock. A man in China committed a similar slaughter to Newtown, but he did it with a knife. Just as many casualties, with an even more hardcore police force simply not arriving on time. Should we ban knives? Knives were invented by our ancestors to hunt and to wage war, and then they tied them to sticks and called them spears. Surely we live in a society where knives are obsolete? I see cooking shows where scissors are used instead to cut meat, and Cuisinarts are used to dice vegetables. Of course not, but you see where this is going.
Interesting fact: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold's original plan for the Columbine massacre was to set off homemade bombs in the school cafeteria during lunch and just use their guns to mop up the survivors. That's not how it ended up going, because they sucked at making bombs. Had they just been able to buy some C4 at their local Wal-Mart's sporting goods department, that massacre would have been far, far deadlier. Since they had to make their own, and they sucked at it, the death toll stayed in the teens instead of breaking triple digits. Also, WHAT THE FUCK DOES A CIVILIAN NEED AN ASSAULT RIFLE FOR? It's total overkill for hunting, a shotgun is more than adequate for home defense, and it's not the kind of thing you can carry everywhere just in case you get mugged.
Define "assault rifle." I have a feeling you're thinking of something that isn't really available to the average un-certified civilian. You probably also have a different definition of "automatic" than I do.
 

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Friends and family of the deceased are not going to care if people stop playing video games for some length of time to "support" them. If you want to "support" them then do something meaningful and make an actual sacrifice, like donating money for funerals. Funerals are expensive and stressful. A lot of families will be stretched thin.
 

Loonyyy

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Yeah, let's connect violent shooter games with violent shootings. I can't see any way that this will go wrong.

It's a nice idea, if you're into pointless gestures which do nothing to help anyone or solve the problem, but you might as well shave your head or castrate yourself to show your consideration.
 

DataSnake

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Nieroshai said:
Define "assault rifle." I have a feeling you're thinking of something that isn't really available to the average un-certified civilian. You probably also have a different definition of "automatic" than I do.
I don't recall saying anything about automatic weapons, but I'm pretty sure the term means weapons capable of firing multiple rounds off a single pull of the trigger, such as an AK47, an MP5 or an M4. I'd define an assault rifle as a semi-automatic, full-auto or select-fire (as opposed to bolt, lever or pump action) rifle or carbine (though for the purposes of this discussion I'd also include SMGs and machine pistols), generally with a high-capacity clip and/or a pistol grip.
 

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Frankly, if they weren't trying to go out and ban firearm ownership in America because of the shooting, I'd be all in for this. However, simply because I fucking hate Californian government as well as most of our current government, I'll be spending Friday shooting trap at my local range, then I'll probably come back and play some Killing Floor or something.

To be perfectly honest, in this situation I really do have to blame the shooter's mother. She knew her son wasn't mentally sound and she tried to introduce guns as a way to calm him down. He knew how to use them as well as where they were stored. I'm not trying to speak ill of the dead, but you just don't do that.

For those people saying that people don't necessarily recognize mental instability, it's pretty easy to see signs that people are going to snap.
This whole thing kind of reminded me of this article [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html], and I feel that not enough people have actually read it.
 

Eggsnham

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Hmm... nope.

Don't get me wrong, I think the whole situation is horrible, but I'm not going to put myself up to some arbitrary challenge because of it.

If you really want to show your support for the families affected, you should actually do something to help them instead of pretending that abstaining from FPS games for 24 hours makes everything all better.
 

Neverhoodian

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Nope, not doing it. I can't help but feel that this conveys the wrong message. All it's doing is giving credence to the "ban violent video games" zealots. I refuse to appease those asshats.

Besides, I plan on mostly healing people in my favorite FPS anyway. TF2's Mecha Update has just launched, and I want to give the Vaccinator (Medic's new medigun) a whirl.
 

Something Amyss

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Baresark said:
People seem under the impression that if someone has a gun they are going to kill someone. That is simply untrue.
You're reacting with the same blanket statement that you seem to think the other side has. Pegging someone as believing this isn't any different from someone actually believing it.

You can't dictate the rules for an entire society because psychopaths exist.
By that argument, we don't need murder laws, either. I mean, psychopaths exist anyway. Can't dictate rules of society simply because they exist.

But he could have had the same "success" in his endeavor if he had a small snub nose pistol.
He could have had the same success with a cricket ball, but the odds are long against. Could he have had the same success with a snub nose? Yes, but not likely. Have you ever handled a Bushmaster or AR-15 knockoff as opposed to a snub nosed compact? I have. Very different results. But then, this should be evident. The reason that the military uses the AR-15 as opposed to a snubbie is because the type of gun ISN'T irrelevant.

you and I have very different idea of what that actually means.
Please don't assume what my ideas on gun control are simply because I thought your argument was terrible. Don't put words in my mouth simply because I disagree with the integrity of your platform. You don't like the thought of being considered a nutjob, based on your statements; why would you then "pay it forward," so to speak?

but criminals will have them, which is the impetus for people who aren't criminals to have them
Which makes it a lot easier for criminals to get them. In terms of an arms race, that's a really bad deal.

Thing is, the number of firearm related deaths is higher in states with fewer gun laws. Places like NY, CT, and Ma where we are frequently told things are dangerous and guns run wild? Less gun violence per capita than Vermont or Alaska. The notion that having access to guns will make you safe is quite specious. "fire with fire" is rarely a viable solution. Not never, just rarely.