Call of Duty Modern Warfare (2019) Trailer Dropped

[Dalisclock]

Honestly kind of excited for this one.

Haven't really cared about Call of Duty since they scrapped the "totally not titanfall" movement system that I really enjoyed in Black Ops 3. I hate battle royal games, and the WW2 game just didn't catch my eye at all.

From what I've heard about this game though it looks pretty great. Everyone is talking up the attempts at realism, realistic night vision, realistic camera footage, etc, as well as the new lighting and graphics engines, as well as realistically scaled levels, and I'm curious to see whether it improves how the game plays.

Just a bunch of little details that sound neat.

It looks really good for what it is. A Cinematic FPS, the kinda thing COD always did well. Apparently this time it's gonna roughly capture the same feel but with some of the plot points changed up.

I can't find it now but there was an article out a day or so ago talking about how one story-line is gonna follow Tier 1(Special Forces) Operators while the other is gonna follow one of the rebels, a young woman from the middle east.

Which I'm sure will go over quite well with some people in the gaming world, who apparently get a bit twitchy when the playable camera with a gun attached ends up having a female rather then a male voice. Something, Something MUH REALISM! something something.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

am intrigued by the bit where they said they wanted a more balanced narrative in these modern times of modern warfare (auto corrected to 'modern welfare' ...the far lesser known call of duty series, but no lesser a body count). will children be involved for this? everytime human value needs to be shown as observably equal in Hollywood, there's children thrown in for the humans to tend for because it's the only way! how else can we know they're human feely things if they're not tending to the children?? it's why I always keep a few spare kids around just in case some asshole mortal enemy type tries to leap in for a sneaky murder. then they can see my humanity and decide not to. no, they're not human shields, it's completely different, why would anyone think that? who keeps their shields in cages anyway? only mad people.

 

[BrawlMan]

The moment I saw the super stealthy squad sneaking through the jungle at night with a flaring cigar in that dude's mouth, I laughed. I mean properly laughed. COD really is the videogame equivalent of an 8 year old playing around with his little action figures.

Well, this is bottom of the barrel.

Can't get a new name. It's in a different timeline from the other Modern Warfare games, but dredges up the same characters. Also by the looks of things, it's treating the setting like it's still 2007, back when the US had the will and power to project over various countries (for good or ill), and where the UK's biggest threat wasn't from being torn apart itself. And "grabbed from the headlines" missions. Because, y'know, that worked so well with Warfighter. Also, call me naieve if you must, but when I think of the biggest threats facing the world today, terrorism no longer comes to mind.

And yet it'll make a billion because it's called "Modern Warfare," and the familiar sells.

Whenever COD is involved, I always thinks of this:


Though the same could be said for AssCreed and Far Cry as well.

Yeah, but technically doesn't it work?

Whatever changes those franchises may or make not make, it's apparently working from a monetary perspective.

They change some things, but not much.

"Oh look, the last two AC games and FC: New Dawn have RPG mechanics that does not add much overall, other than more padding and grinding."

"We're back with our shallow attempt by going back to WWII. No, now we're doing Battle Royale, and single-player is dead. Except it's not dead, and here's a remake of a game that acts like it is 2007 all over again. Even though we re-released the original for steeper price and took what was free or cheap dlc on last gen and charged it on current gen console. Only to end back on the same name for a franchise that did not need rebooting and is pulling a Need for Speed."

Whatever "changes" they make are so minuscule and makes each entry all the more shallow. Especially since the unholy trio want to treat most of their properties as "live services". This is why I don't buy from either of these studios anymore. I tend to feel sorry for people who play only those games and nothing else, because they miss out on the best parts of gaming, and ever memories they have is just either going to be multiplayer session and nothing about story or characters. I remember my own share of online session, but I am not going to let it be my only gaming memory.

You have point, this is just me ranting.

So are they doing the same thing over and over, or are they changing everything over and over again to see what sticks?

You really should make your mind up about this.

I did make up my mind. My point being that whatever changes these companies do claim are either minuscule or not done that well that I have seen better in others games. The only change or innovation that companies like them bring are getting more greedy or ways to screw over the player to turn them in to money bags. Maybe you might see me as weird like that, but I don't give shit.

Which I'm sure will go over quite well with some people in the gaming world, who apparently get a bit twitchy when the playable camera with a gun attached ends up having a female rather then a male voice. Something, Something MUH REALISM! something something.

My "favorite" are the ones who claim that blacks or anyone of color did not serve in WWI/WWII or undermine their service or contribution to the wars, and whose only facts to back them up are WW1/WWII movies, warped logic, or willful ignorace and obliviousness. If people like them where thrown in in actual war, they would be pissing themselves or crying for mommy and daddy. Only for most of them to die within in the first couple of battles. They disgust me because, I've had relatives on both sides of the family, that served in those wars.

 

[FakeSympathy]

You know, I am just glad we are going back to the modern-era setting.

For far too long, we suffered from bullshit futuristic-weapons

For far too long, we suffered from cyborg bullshit class systems

For far too long, we suffered from jet-pack, wall climb, slide bullshit

Just regular, modern era weapons, with modern era kill streaks

 

[Elfgore]

I've heard some nifty stuff about the campaign, so I'll probably pick it up once it drops a bit in price. Got a soft spot for some campaigns.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

You know, I am just glad we are going back to the modern-era setting.

For far too long, we suffered from bullshit futuristic-weapons

For far too long, we suffered from cyborg bullshit class systems

For far too long, we suffered from jet-pack, wall climb, slide bullshit

Just regular, modern era weapons, with modern era kill streaks

Yeah, let's not have anything that makes the games more skill-based and interesting!

 

[Dalisclock]

Which I'm sure will go over quite well with some people in the gaming world, who apparently get a bit twitchy when the playable camera with a gun attached ends up having a female rather then a male voice. Something, Something MUH REALISM! something something.

My "favorite" are the ones who claim that blacks or anyone of color did not serve in WWI/WWII or undermine their service or contribution to the wars, and whose only facts to back them up are WW1/WWII movies, warped logic, or willful ignorace and obliviousness. If people like them where thrown in in actual war, they would be pissing themselves or crying for mommy and daddy. Only for most of them to die within in the first couple of battles. They disgust me because, I've had relatives on both sides of the family, that served in those wars.

Or that's the bit that breaks their immersion. Artillery that tracks you with GPS like percision, rubbing health kits on you/standing behind walls to heal, one tank being able take out entire divisions on their own, weapons that didn't exist or might as well as not existed in the period, aircraft that can instantly regenerate rockets in flight, one guy wiping out entire air forces with a mounted machine gun. All that shit is fine. Double X chromosomes holding the gun? NOT IN MY GAME!

If COD/BF was trying to be super close to reality, I could empathize with the sentiment a bit more. But considering they're already pretty much the hollywood equivalent of video game shooters, the whole "Realism!" thing strikes me as a bit hollow.

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

The night vision looks impressive.

 

[Mcgeezaks]

The moment I saw the super stealthy squad sneaking through the jungle at night with a flaring cigar in that dude's mouth, I laughed. I mean properly laughed. COD really is the videogame equivalent of an 8 year old playing around with his little action figures.

It's just a character reveal, Captain Price is frequently smoking 'em throughout the Modern Warfare series so it's obvious they did it as a throwback/so people would recognize him.

OT: Looks good, I've watched some other videos with more info about what we can expect and I'm very intrigued

 

[Leg End]

Man, if I didn't absolutely know they were going to shove in every wallet and game fucking method ever conceived into this, I'd actually buy it. Probably.

am intrigued by the bit where they said they wanted a more balanced narrative in these modern times of modern warfare (auto corrected to 'modern welfare' ...the far lesser known call of duty series, but no lesser a body count).

That got a good chuckle out of me.

will children be involved for this? everytime human value needs to be shown as observably equal in Hollywood, there's children thrown in for the humans to tend for because it's the only way! how else can we know they're human feely things if they're not tending to the children?? it's why I always keep a few spare kids around just in case some asshole mortal enemy type tries to leap in for a sneaky murder. then they can see my humanity and decide not to. no, they're not human shields, it's completely different, why would anyone think that? who keeps their shields in cages anyway? only mad people.

Well, considering the overall frame and looks of the guy in the blue hoodie? I think we're fuckin gettin some child soldiers in here.

 

[tippy2k2]

Man, if I didn't absolutely know they were going to shove in every wallet and game fucking method ever conceived into this, I'd actually buy it. Probably

Supposedly this will not have any kind of season pass or DLC things you have to buy.

It'll likely be stuffed to the gills with cosmetic microtransactions to make up for that but they have stated that they're not having any "required" DLC/micros in the game if that makes a difference to you.

For myself, I'm really excited for the game. I've played all the CoD games as I still greatly enjoy the single player games (and Black Ops 4, I'm LOVING Blackout so that worked out nicely for me). This game I am hearing won't have a Battle Royale mode (no zombies either but I don't really care about the zeds mode) but if the single player game truly pulls off a more rich and nuanced story, I will almost certainly pick this one up at some point.

 

[Leg End]

Supposedly this will not have any kind of season pass or DLC things you have to buy.

It'll likely be stuffed to the gills with cosmetic microtransactions to make up for that but they have stated that they're not having any "required" DLC/micros in the game if that makes a difference to you.

...Eeeeeeeeuuuh still don't think I trust em, but I'll probably just wait to see how that plays out. I just wish cosmetics were all unlocked via gameplay, like they used to be.

For myself, I'm really excited for the game. I've played all the CoD games as I still greatly enjoy the single player games (and Black Ops 4, I'm LOVING Blackout so that worked out nicely for me). This game I am hearing won't have a Battle Royale mode (no zombies either but I don't really care about the zeds mode) but if the single player game truly pulls off a more rich and nuanced story, I will almost certainly pick this one up at some point.

My excitement is almost bipolar at this point. Re-imagining Call of Duty 4 with more actual gray areas, child soldiers, terrorism in the open streets, cheapo drones used for intel and attacks, and Price still being a time lord? But Activision still being involved? I think there's someone loose with the Monkey's Paw. Those pre-order weapon and soldier cosmetics better be available normally.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Man, if I didn't absolutely know they were going to shove in every wallet and game fucking method ever conceived into this, I'd actually buy it. Probably

Supposedly this will not have any kind of season pass or DLC things you have to buy.

It'll likely be stuffed to the gills with cosmetic microtransactions to make up for that but they have stated that they're not having any "required" DLC/micros in the game if that makes a difference to you.

For myself, I'm really excited for the game. I've played all the CoD games as I still greatly enjoy the single player games (and Black Ops 4, I'm LOVING Blackout so that worked out nicely for me). This game I am hearing won't have a Battle Royale mode (no zombies either but I don't really care about the zeds mode) but if the single player game truly pulls off a more rich and nuanced story, I will almost certainly pick this one up at some point.

They said there won't be a "traditional season pass" not that there won't be a season pass.

I'm assuming they realized you can't have both DLC and microtransactions in the game, so they're probably going to the free to play model of releasing new content for free for everyone, but having shitloads of microtransactions as well as a "battle pass" type thing. The problem being that this isn't a free to play game, and call of duty has a history of adding new weapons in lootboxes, which is what turned me off on the series for a while. If it's all just cosmetics I'm ok with it though, I've never really cared about cosmetic options in games.

Also, since they said that battle royal and zombies aren't going to be in this game I'm hoping for Spec Ops to make a comeback. I loved playing those coop missions with friends in MW2 and 3.

 

[tippy2k2]

Man, if I didn't absolutely know they were going to shove in every wallet and game fucking method ever conceived into this, I'd actually buy it. Probably

Supposedly this will not have any kind of season pass or DLC things you have to buy.

It'll likely be stuffed to the gills with cosmetic microtransactions to make up for that but they have stated that they're not having any "required" DLC/micros in the game if that makes a difference to you.

For myself, I'm really excited for the game. I've played all the CoD games as I still greatly enjoy the single player games (and Black Ops 4, I'm LOVING Blackout so that worked out nicely for me). This game I am hearing won't have a Battle Royale mode (no zombies either but I don't really care about the zeds mode) but if the single player game truly pulls off a more rich and nuanced story, I will almost certainly pick this one up at some point.

They said there won't be a "traditional season pass" not that there won't be a season pass.

I'm assuming they realized you can't have both DLC and microtransactions in the game, so they're probably going to the free to play model of releasing new content for free for everyone, but having shitloads of microtransactions as well as a "battle pass" type thing. The problem being that this isn't a free to play game, and call of duty has a history of adding new weapons in lootboxes, which is what turned me off on the series for a while. If it's all just cosmetics I'm ok with it though, I've never really cared about cosmetic options in games.

Also, since they said that battle royal and zombies aren't going to be in this game I'm hoping for Spec Ops to make a comeback. I loved playing those coop missions with friends in MW2 and 3.

Fair point, I didn't realize they put in that qualifier, which almost certainly means a "Battle Pass" or something similar.

Ultimately for me, it won't matter as Single Player is all I'm interested in here (unless they want to add Battle Royale ) but that is good to know for when talking with other people about it.