Call of Duty: WWII Confirmed

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Samtemdo8 said:
I am just wondering the scope of the campaign?

Is gonna have Western and Eastern Front Europe?

Along with The Pacific Theater and mabye North Africa/Italy?
Plot twist: you play as the Nazis.


Joke. Activision doesn't have the cohones to pull that off.
 

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Souplex said:
I'm disappointed. I was hoping they'd up Battlefield being in WWI by doing the American Civil War or the Napoleonic Wars.
They can't do that due to the lack of any sort of automatic weaponry in those eras. Battlefield got away with World War I by including a lot of prototype and limited production weapons and making light machine guns far more common on the battlefield than they actually were. Doing American Civil War or Napoleonic would massively slow down the pace of the game as you'd be restricted to single shot weapons that take half a minute to reload. For the Civil War you would have revolvers, but after your six shots you are also looking at a half minute+ reload time due to the lack of any real ejection system and/or not having access to metallic cartridges.

Bottom line is World War I is the earliest you can set a military shooter and still have a palatable weapon selection, and even that requires a bit of stretching. Anything set before that isn't going to fly unless they want to go for the alternate history steampunk route.
 

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MC1980 said:
aaaaaaaand it's looking like it's US only for the campaign
Source? I mean, I can believe that, but I'd like to know for sure.
 

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MC1980 said:
No-one gives a fuck about the Vietnam/Korean wars outside of 'Mumaricans. They've toyed with the idea of a 'Nam focused game at a time before, and that was the conclusion they came to after market research. Can't say I'm not glad, I'd rather have some variety with Brits and Russians, than another round of yanks wanking about.
No one cares about the Korean war outside of Americans? You'd better tell Kim Jong-Un; he seems to feel strongly about it. It's good to realize that Americans aren't the only people in the world, but going from that to "Americans and Europeans are the only people in the world" isn't really an improvement.


ObsidianJones said:
The Vietnam War lasted 9. Fricking. Years.
Ho declared independence in 1945. Saigon fell in 1975. Even if you're somehow posting from Mars, that's the longest nine years I've ever heard of.
 

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If they are going to do WWII, they NEED to not just do the Western Europe shit AGAIN. Seriously, we have North Africa, the Pacific Islands, and other things all over the damn world.

Real talk, have the Italians EVER been in any of these WWII games? I can't remember a single one where the Italian army was even really acknowledged let alone involved in the fighting. The Italians basically only exist to be liberated by the Yanks (And sometimes Brits, never Canadians or Aussies though because they don't exist according to WWII media). Imagine if they did a tutorial level set during the Italian invasion of Ethiopia.
 

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Recusant said:
Ho declared independence in 1945. Saigon fell in 1975. Even if you're somehow posting from Mars, that's the longest nine years I've ever heard of.
You're combining the First Indochina War with the Second Incochina War (a.k.a. the Vietnam War). They're generally regarded as two separate conflicts.

demoman_chaos said:
Real talk, have the Italians EVER been in any of these WWII games? I can't remember a single one where the Italian army was even really acknowledged let alone involved in the fighting. The Italians basically only exist to be liberated by the Yanks (And sometimes Brits, never Canadians or Aussies though because they don't exist according to WWII media). Imagine if they did a tutorial level set during the Italian invasion of Ethiopia.
"These WWII games" as in Call of Duty? Then, IIRC, no. In WWII games in general? Yeah, the Italians have been in a few ones, such as Medal of Honour: Breakthrough/Airborne, Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome, and Sniper Elite 4.

Also, let's be fair, Australia and Canada were hardly heavy players in WWII, and I say that as an Australian. Canada has featured though, in Call of Duty 3 and in a single mission in Battlefield 1942 (the Caen one). Australia, to my knowledge, hasn't. Partly because Australia wasn't really a major player outside it a base of operations in the Pacific, partly because you can't really separate Australia from either British operations (Tobruk, El Alemain, Singapore), or American ones in the Pacific. Maybe Kokoda, but I think that's it.
 

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Hawki said:
Recusant said:
Ho declared independence in 1945. Saigon fell in 1975. Even if you're somehow posting from Mars, that's the longest nine years I've ever heard of.
You're combining the First Indochina War with the Second Incochina War (a.k.a. the Vietnam War). They're generally regarded as two separate conflicts.

demoman_chaos said:
Real talk, have the Italians EVER been in any of these WWII games? I can't remember a single one where the Italian army was even really acknowledged let alone involved in the fighting. The Italians basically only exist to be liberated by the Yanks (And sometimes Brits, never Canadians or Aussies though because they don't exist according to WWII media). Imagine if they did a tutorial level set during the Italian invasion of Ethiopia.
"These WWII games" as in Call of Duty? Then, IIRC, no. In WWII games in general? Yeah, the Italians have been in a few ones, such as Medal of Honour: Breakthrough/Airborne, Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome, and Sniper Elite 4.

Also, let's be fair, Australia and Canada were hardly heavy players in WWII, and I say that as an Australian. Canada has featured though, in Call of Duty 3 and in a single mission in Battlefield 1942 (the Caen one). Australia, to my knowledge, hasn't. Partly because Australia wasn't really a major player outside it a base of operations in the Pacific, partly because you can't really separate Australia from either British operations (Tobruk, El Alemain, Singapore), or American ones in the Pacific. Maybe Kokoda, but I think that's it.
Australia was in Medal of Honor: Rising Sun if I recall.
 
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Recusant said:
Ho declared independence in 1945. Saigon fell in 1975. Even if you're somehow posting from Mars, that's the longest nine years I've ever heard of.
A bit egotistical, but if a new game comes I feel most designers will focus on American's involvement, as I believe they will see that as the main customer demographic. Their main campaign is what I was referring to.
 

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meowchef said:
Australia was in Medal of Honor: Rising Sun if I recall.
It isn't. I played it this year.

It does score some diversity brownie points though - you play a US marine who later joins the OSS (so, nothing out of the ordinary there), but you're helped by a British agent, a Nisei spy, team up with the Chindits on some missions, and help an Indian fighter pilot on one mission.
 

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ObsidianJones said:
Recusant said:
Ho declared independence in 1945. Saigon fell in 1975. Even if you're somehow posting from Mars, that's the longest nine years I've ever heard of.
A bit egotistical, but if a new game comes I feel most designers will focus on American's involvement, as I believe they will see that as the main customer demographic. Their main campaign is what I was referring to.
Well, sure. But that's my point: the United States has existed for less than 250 years; even if you include the pre-independence colonial days, you only have so many wars to work with. Activision, of course, is probably not going to bother using wars that had no American involvement, but there's great potential in them nonetheless.

Hawki said:
Recusant said:
Ho declared independence in 1945. Saigon fell in 1975. Even if you're somehow posting from Mars, that's the longest nine years I've ever heard of.
You're combining the First Indochina War with the Second Incochina War (a.k.a. the Vietnam War). They're generally regarded as two separate conflicts.
Tell that to the Vietnamese. Like pretty much all wars, it was a grand clusterfuck of the highest order, with several sides fighting multiple enemies for often vague and confusing reasons. There may have been little Western involvement for a while, but that doesn't make it any less of a war- it wasn't until Saigon fell that the country was united, after all.
 

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Souplex said:
I'm disappointed. I was hoping they'd up Battlefield being in WWI by doing the American Civil War or the Napoleonic Wars.
You mean Darkest of Days 2?

Honestly, that might be interesting. Though probably even dumber then the first game was.

"You need to be careful not the change history, so don't shoot certain people. Also, here's a futuristic assault rifle. Show those confederates a thing or two".

Also, can we please not visit Stalingrad and D-Day in this one? Yeah, they're cinematic, but CoD has done Stalingrad in 3 separate games at this point and D-Day in 2. WW2 took place, you know, all over the world. How about some of the lesser known theaters?
 

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That's an adventurous leap you're performing there, nothing quite like leaving your comfort zone to explore new and exciting settings, right? Stunning ground breaking material. Inspirational. Daring. Can't wait to unravel the mystery behind this conflict.
 

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I guess I'm in the minortiy but WWII could actual bring me back to the franchise. I love media that portrays that war.

They could have at least tried on the title though. They copied Battlefield 1 and somehow it's still worse.
 

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Apparently, it won't have a zombies mode - because Treyarch might release a 8 maps megamappack of remastered zombiemaps for Black Ops 3.
Not sure if those are actually related or if either is true but if both are, I wouldn't be surprised about the relation.
 

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ObsidianJones said:
Vietnam war, Korean war... anything. Just anything else.

The Vietnam War lasted 9. Fricking. Years.

Please drop world war 2
Well maybe they want a war in which the americans are the good guys?
 

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...If it's only an American campaign, I won't buy it.

The best parts of CoD I and II were the British and Soviet bits.

Charging into Stalingrad, armed only with a clip of bullets, was memorable as fuck. And the Crusader crew portions were neat too.

But, hey, it's activision. I fully expect them to shit the bed here.
 

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I have a friend who is a good decade younger than I and he was actually excited for this.

I tried to explain that they'd done WWII with CoD 1 - 3 and he had no idea since he was a kid when those came out.

Suddenly, this announcement made sense.
 

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Can't someone make an online shooter but in a setting similar to Wolfenstein? Or I dunno - alternate history? Steampunk? Go Cold War between the Soviets and Mujaheddin? Alternate history Cold War where a Star Wars missile defense system has allowed the USA and USSR to openly fight without worry of getting nuked? There are so many scenarios one can go down without rehashing the same thing yet again.
 

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C'mon, have an Australian mini campaign at least. First military to defeat all Axis forces, first to best the blitzkrieg . Plus you could do what B1 couldn't ... have an entire level were it's you running through actual trenches and tunnels with a bolt action and bayonet.

Or maybe a mini campaign of Z Special Unit in SE Asia focussing on Operations Jaywick and Rimau. Wildly successful, but a tragic end.