Calling all Autistics of the Escapist
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Isn't that true for everyone then? Why just make a blanket assumption that men are worse at it than women? Because it's true for you?ElPatron said:
I feel you mate. At the age of four, or three, I was falsely diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. Didn't really get it (I was a little kid, why would I?) but as I got older, and understood how the treatment of me partitioned me from everyone else, it started the snowball effect (along with many other things, including a failed relationship, some extraordinarily proficient psychological bullying, etc) into clinical depression. Which does not go away.Doclector said:
In any case, I was reevaluated a few years ago after vehemently refusing all segregation attempts (I shit you not, they got someone to try to trick me into filling out my yearly evaluation). Records were gone over. You'd be amazed how many false diagnoses there are for Autism and Asperger's just because the psychologist wants to slap a label on it and validate his bill.
It turns out I'm a very highly functioning sociopath, though. Too little, too late in my opinion. Depression (which I would not have if it weren't for this mess) doesn't go away. It's fixed, but ever present. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that my sociopathy developed as a defense mechanism. Those fuckers took my childhood and ruined me.
Wow, The Escapist is at it again. I can hear the cries of "sexism" already.Freechoice said:
I never said that women aren't annoying as fuck. I know they are from personal experience and there are things that piss them off for no reason. Same with men. I know that if my day was bullshit and I found my girlfriend did something I wouldn't want to talk about, I'd get pissed at showerheads.
I have Autism, and while it has made life difficult for me, I've learned to love it, and do you know what? If someone could get rid of it, I wouldn't want them to.
HO got a new one for ya, i gotz the Dyslexia next to autistic. no really. that first sentence. you don even know how much you could not read this post if not for spell check o.o diagnosed by my parents which are M.D.s at 4/5, and for all you fellows let me save you some thinking, the school, didn't do a thing, said my parents couldn't possibly know that, scheduled me for testing, lost my name, elementary all the way to high school didn't do a freakin thing, and i got officially tested at 17, and came out positive for Dyslexia. It may be a joke to some of you, and it may be fake or "blown out of proportion(<--- had to Google that one)", but to me and my family and my wife, its painfully real. I would not hug my sisters or parents, i rebelled against everyone trying to talk to me and get close. I've never had many friends, never been good at talking, never good at writing. do you know how hard that makes life? take your life and times by ten. in today's world you need to able to talk to people and write and i can't do that! (i can type due to spell check). I get pretty heated over this because i have become a Psychologist, because i did get help, now i try and help parents understand their child, and children to cope with their gifts. Yeah, gifts. Its made my life harder, but i like being autistic. Makes life more interesting, and clearer.
try explaining to him, tell him what you are feeling and why you think feel that way. its what me and my wife do when she wants to change something or has something going on, she explains to me why and gives reasons, basically puts into a picture/ easily understood way. You see because artistic thinks in pictures and In a 3D sense, so you need to put it in terms of a picture and reason. BUT even if this doesn't work, just remember, number one rule: be patient, cause you can not ask an autistic so sit down.
On the opposite side here, cause my darling wife is normal and I'm autistic. Thing is to be patient with him, emotions are concepts (as in more pictures) not easily understood to autism.Detective Prince said:
try explaining to him, tell him what you are feeling and why you think feel that way. its what me and my wife do when she wants to change something or has something going on, she explains to me why and gives reasons, basically puts into a picture/ easily understood way. You see because artistic thinks in pictures and In a 3D sense, so you need to put it in terms of a picture and reason. BUT even if this doesn't work, just remember, number one rule: be patient, cause you can not ask an autistic so sit down.
Yeah, god knows what they'd tag me with if I let pyschologists anywhere near me nowadays. Hell, at one point, I actually seeked psychiatric help, but this is the UK, when it comes to mental health they love their labels, and they hate actually giving treatment. Now I know I'm not completely okay, and I get the feeling I never will be, but I'm damn better than I've ever been, and who knows what kind of damage they'll cause if I let them look me over again. People can call you crazy all they like, but they don't really mean it until there's a name for it.Binnsyboy said:
If you're going to go the "People need to learn to laugh at themselves" route, you should take a little more responsibility for what's coming out of your mouth. (or in this case, what you're writing) You are fully aware that this is a sensitive issue. If you're going to go there, you better make a real effort to try to show people that its fun to laugh at themselves, or just keep your jokes to yourself.Lumber Barber said:
Also, think about where you're doing this. I'd be pretty pissed if there was a thread in which people were sharing their stories about coping with, say, their parents having divorced when they were a child and someone without any apparent investment or empathy on the issue just waltzed in and started making bad jokes at our expense.
At the very least, if you're going to pull something like this and you wind up insulting people, you could try apologizing and being friendly instead of insulting the users of this website.
Yeah, I know. I was close to being diagnosed with schizophrenia because a therapist mistook my weird obsessive thoughts for psychosis. I'm sure the medications would have been terrible.Erana said:
Pretty much sums it up.Doclector said:
I was never actually diagnosed with any mental disorder (or if I was my parents never told me), but reading about it, looking back at how I thought and acted -- how I still think and act in some ways -- I could make a strong case for high function autism. I don't see much point in being tested, I've had the last thirty years to figure out on my own just how far off the median I am, I don't need a doctor to tell me. Don't want to contemplate pills, either. My friends have taken them, there's always a laundry list of side effects. Pills don't actually fix the problem, they just move the problem into some other area of your life.
Certainly my physical ineptitude, facility with numbers and patterns, and difficulty with social interaction have caused me far more grief than good. I was thrown into a "gifted and talented" program that very nearly turned me off from learning altogether. And the other kids, they don't understand why you're not exactly like them, they only understand they must punish you for your differences. Basic law of human interaction.
I am currently in the process of seeing a psychiatrist under the possibility that I may be schizophrenic. The reason I wanted to share that is because I have some idea of the medication that is commonly used and to say that they're actually quite reluctant to give medication to you unless it's a last resort or there is personal or social danger involved.MammothBlade said:
Also you'd need to display more than one symptom for an extended period of time (assuming in this case 'obsessive thoughts' is roughly its own thing).
Fair enough, I was probably overreacting with worst case scenarios at the time.Cavan said:
I heard a theory (imprinted brain theory) that schizophrenia and autism may well be the opposite things - autism featuring underdeveloped, underactive theory of mind, whereas schizophrenia involves an overdeveloped, overactive theory of mind which goes paranoid and delusional. Those with autistic spectrum conditions have more mechanistic, systematic thinking, whereas those on the schizotypal spectrum have tendencies towards empathising or mentalising - to the point that they can hear other peoples' voices loudly in their head. Yet I've heard of several people with autistic spectrum conditions who have schizophrenia too, which either puts their diagnosis or that theory into serious doubt. Also, there are quite a few people - think John Nash - who are scientifically and mathematically gifted yet have full-blown paranoia. It's an oversimplistic explanation, but it's worth a look.
Well, I've looked at it objectively, and I admit I probably am something of a sociopath, but my point is they were wrong before. And that damage is permanent.Doclector said:
Aspergers here! Must have been diagnosed at about 16, possibly 17 - I honestly can't remember the exact date, but hey. Funny thing is, it all kind of started with Christian Western Chandler - I decided to research Autism just to prove to myself that he didn't have it, and after looking at the symptoms, I thought "Haaaang on a minute..."
Obviously, I wasn't going to be happy with a self diagnosis, so I mulled the idea over, told a teacher in about the last year of secondary school, got sent to a mind-doctor (Not sure if he was an actual physiologist or not, so I'm using that for now.) And, well, long story short, they diagnosed me with Aspergers.
... And Mild ADHD.
... And Mild dispraxia.
... And something else I've forgotten, despite hearing it not 3 days ago.
Yeah, given the lateness of the diagnosis, plus how mild everything turned out, I actually don't think it's disabled me that much. In fact, I personally consider myself pretty damn lucky, if only because my personality seems to work so well with my disabilities - I mean, I'm self confidant without being too arrogant (Most of the time, anyway. I think so, at least.) Self-critical when I need to be, logical, not afraid to try new things, a very quick learner, scientific (In that I feel the need to experiment a lot when I come up with a theory.) ... In fact, it feels like, if our life was but a game, I've been created by a guy who wanted to min-max the SHIT out of me.'
Now all I have to do is go back to the mind doctor and see if my self-diagnosis of paranoia is justified...
Obviously, I wasn't going to be happy with a self diagnosis, so I mulled the idea over, told a teacher in about the last year of secondary school, got sent to a mind-doctor (Not sure if he was an actual physiologist or not, so I'm using that for now.) And, well, long story short, they diagnosed me with Aspergers.
... And Mild ADHD.
... And Mild dispraxia.
... And something else I've forgotten, despite hearing it not 3 days ago.
Yeah, given the lateness of the diagnosis, plus how mild everything turned out, I actually don't think it's disabled me that much. In fact, I personally consider myself pretty damn lucky, if only because my personality seems to work so well with my disabilities - I mean, I'm self confidant without being too arrogant (Most of the time, anyway. I think so, at least.) Self-critical when I need to be, logical, not afraid to try new things, a very quick learner, scientific (In that I feel the need to experiment a lot when I come up with a theory.) ... In fact, it feels like, if our life was but a game, I've been created by a guy who wanted to min-max the SHIT out of me.'
Now all I have to do is go back to the mind doctor and see if my self-diagnosis of paranoia is justified...