Calling all PC gamers (help me out here)

[ZombieGenesis]

Can a GTX 570 run Crysis and Witcher? Are you serious?
There isn't a game on the market it can't run.

I think you're getting on the wrong boat here- that machine is POWERFUL yes, but by modern standards its simply too powerful. There isn't a game around that can't be perfectly run on hardware at about half the price. That may be personal preference of course, I've never seen the point of water cooling, triple-threadding and anything beyond a GTX 470. (Despite owning a 6970)

Some will tell you different, but sadly those are also the people that give PC gamers a little 'reputation'.

Well that is just fantastic, guess I wont have to upgrade my PC for a while then, excactly what I was trying to achieve with this PC

Despite the sarcasm, yes, that is definately an advantage.
Though I would argue had you not taken that route you could have bought this same set up down the line when the prices plummet (as all hardware does) and come out of this at about £500 better off. I admit I indulged a fair bit with my set up too, but I refused to invest in the bulk-profit parts that I could get for pennies once they actually became necessary.

Just something to consider, I'm sure your machine will treat you well regardless.

And on the plus, just got my Special Edition Witcher 2 package through, with all the beautiful extras to play with for 5 minutes then forget about.
At the bottom price of about £25.

This is why I love PC gaming.

 

[SpAc3man]

I have been thinking of buying a Caviar Green 1TB main HDD and a second Caviar Green 2TB HDD for my movie collection and other types of media. Both should be low-power HDD's

I would stick with a 7200rpm drive for the primary and the low power drive for the secondary. Although those new Caviar Green drives can get up to 7200rpm, they spend most of their time being a bit slow to use less power.

 

[Irriduccibilli]

Can a GTX 570 run Crysis and Witcher? Are you serious?
There isn't a game on the market it can't run.

I think you're getting on the wrong boat here- that machine is POWERFUL yes, but by modern standards its simply too powerful. There isn't a game around that can't be perfectly run on hardware at about half the price. That may be personal preference of course, I've never seen the point of water cooling, triple-threadding and anything beyond a GTX 470. (Despite owning a 6970)

Some will tell you different, but sadly those are also the people that give PC gamers a little 'reputation'.

Well that is just fantastic, guess I wont have to upgrade my PC for a while then, excactly what I was trying to achieve with this PC

Despite the sarcasm, yes, that is definately an advantage.
Though I would argue had you not taken that route you could have bought this same set up down the line when the prices plummet (as all hardware does) and come out of this at about £500 better off. I admit I indulged a fair bit with my set up too, but I refused to invest in the bulk-profit parts that I could get for pennies once they actually became necessary.

Just something to consider, I'm sure your machine will treat you well regardless.

And on the plus, just got my Special Edition Witcher 2 package through, with all the beautiful extras to play with for 5 minutes then forget about.
At the bottom price of about £25.

This is why I love PC gaming.

I admit, I am going to spend a whole lot of money on this rig, but i'm fine with that, i've been saving up for quite some time now, and with my job (starting august 1st) i'll be able to afford it pretty soon.

How is Witcher, is it really any good, I havent heard anything about it yet, but I cant wait to try it myself, gotta get a good enough PC first. I must say I am pretty excited about the special edition myself, so much stuff you you are never going to use... and I love it.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Can a GTX 570 run Crysis and Witcher? Are you serious?
There isn't a game on the market it can't run.

I think you're getting on the wrong boat here- that machine is POWERFUL yes, but by modern standards its simply too powerful. There isn't a game around that can't be perfectly run on hardware at about half the price. That may be personal preference of course, I've never seen the point of water cooling, triple-threadding and anything beyond a GTX 470. (Despite owning a 6970)

Some will tell you different, but sadly those are also the people that give PC gamers a little 'reputation'.

Well that is just fantastic, guess I wont have to upgrade my PC for a while then, excactly what I was trying to achieve with this PC

Despite the sarcasm, yes, that is definately an advantage.
Though I would argue had you not taken that route you could have bought this same set up down the line when the prices plummet (as all hardware does) and come out of this at about £500 better off. I admit I indulged a fair bit with my set up too, but I refused to invest in the bulk-profit parts that I could get for pennies once they actually became necessary.

Just something to consider, I'm sure your machine will treat you well regardless.

And on the plus, just got my Special Edition Witcher 2 package through, with all the beautiful extras to play with for 5 minutes then forget about.
At the bottom price of about £25.

This is why I love PC gaming.

I admit, I am going to spend a whole lot of money on this rig, but i'm fine with that, i've been saving up for quite some time now, and with my job (starting august 1st) i'll be able to afford it pretty soon.

How is Witcher, is it really any good, I havent heard anything about it yet, but I cant wait to try it myself, gotta get a good enough PC first. I must say I am pretty excited about the special edition myself, so much stuff you you are never going to use... and I love it.

From what I've played so far, actually surprising! I admit I only got the game because of the choices the developer made (No DRM and screwing over the Australian Nanny government) and the premise didn't really stand out to me. But damn if it doesn't grab you by the short hairs.
Looks gorgeous too of course, and with your machine you'll be able to enjoy everything maxed.

The bonuses are interesting- a tiny coin, and some silly paper cut outs aren't much to write home about. But the map is quite impressive, and there's an awesome enveloped letter with some pretty disturbing artwork. I say get stuck in, it's looking good.
Can't say for Crysis 2 though, haven't finished the first one myself.

Edit: Oh, and there's the bonus DVD of course.

 

[WanderingFool]

Im not much of a PC gamer, but my 2 year old laptop can run both Crysis 2 and Thw Witcher 2 on minumum settings. So Im going to say, yes, that should be fine...

 

[Irriduccibilli]

Can a GTX 570 run Crysis and Witcher? Are you serious?
There isn't a game on the market it can't run.

I think you're getting on the wrong boat here- that machine is POWERFUL yes, but by modern standards its simply too powerful. There isn't a game around that can't be perfectly run on hardware at about half the price. That may be personal preference of course, I've never seen the point of water cooling, triple-threadding and anything beyond a GTX 470. (Despite owning a 6970)

Some will tell you different, but sadly those are also the people that give PC gamers a little 'reputation'.

Well that is just fantastic, guess I wont have to upgrade my PC for a while then, excactly what I was trying to achieve with this PC

Despite the sarcasm, yes, that is definately an advantage.
Though I would argue had you not taken that route you could have bought this same set up down the line when the prices plummet (as all hardware does) and come out of this at about £500 better off. I admit I indulged a fair bit with my set up too, but I refused to invest in the bulk-profit parts that I could get for pennies once they actually became necessary.

Just something to consider, I'm sure your machine will treat you well regardless.

And on the plus, just got my Special Edition Witcher 2 package through, with all the beautiful extras to play with for 5 minutes then forget about.
At the bottom price of about £25.

This is why I love PC gaming.

I admit, I am going to spend a whole lot of money on this rig, but i'm fine with that, i've been saving up for quite some time now, and with my job (starting august 1st) i'll be able to afford it pretty soon.

How is Witcher, is it really any good, I havent heard anything about it yet, but I cant wait to try it myself, gotta get a good enough PC first. I must say I am pretty excited about the special edition myself, so much stuff you you are never going to use... and I love it.

From what I've played so far, actually surprising! I admit I only got the game because of the choices the developer made (No DRM and screwing over the Australian Nanny government) and the premise didn't really stand out to me. But damn if it doesn't grab you by the short hairs.
Looks gorgeous too of course, and with your machine you'll be able to enjoy everything maxed.

The bonuses are interesting- a tiny coin, and some silly paper cut outs aren't much to write home about. But the map is quite impressive, and there's an awesome enveloped letter with some pretty disturbing artwork. I say get stuck in, it's looking good.
Can't say for Crysis 2 though, haven't finished the first one myself.

Edit: Oh, and there's the bonus DVD of course.

Cool, just saw a review of it on gametrailers.com, it got a 9.4 which is really good. I'm probably going to buy Witcher 2 along with my PC, maybe even the special edition if it still exists at the time.

I can tell you myself though that Crysis 2 is actually really fun, and of course its gorgeous. I already got it for my Xbox, I just use Crysis as a benchmark game when it comes to PC's to see how much it actually can handle. Multiplayer is a bit dissappointing though, but if you play it for the singleplayer youre good to go

 

[tharglet]

I cant really say that I have been planning on using my harddrives in a RAID array though. To be honest, being the complete PC newbie that I am I dont really know what that means

Yer, unless you've got the drives and the data, RAIDing isn't particularly worth it. All the stuff I care about is backed up somewhere, and a lot of the stuff I care about is safe to store "in the wild" aka on the internet.

However, it is worth storing your games/heavyweight apps on one disk and your OS on t'other. Much smoother on the loading front, and you can get a noticeable performance in MMOs (which tend to do a lot of loading/unloading from memory, and Windoze loves to stick stuff in the swap).

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

Can it run Crysis 2 or Witcher 2?

You could run either at max settings with half of this computer.

This seems like a waste of money. I think you have the wrong attitude about this: the big point behind building a PC yourself isn't that it makes upgrades unecessary, it's that it makes them cheaper and easier. You're shelling out a ton of money for a lot of things you're unlikely to make proper use of for years, by which time there will be better parts and the parts you bought will be much, much cheaper.

Also, I don't know why anyone is talking about overclocking with this thing. The stock speeds would be plenty sufficient for pretty much anything. Hell, I wouldn't even waste the money on such nice cooling. There is virtually no reason you would need to overlock something like this, especially if your main purpose is gaming. Unless you're one of those people who get off on seeing how high you can overlock things and bragging about the completely useless exceptional capabilities of your computer on the internet, it's probably not worth the time and money.

Also, if this is your first time building a PC and/or attempting overclocking, this is an especially poor idea. Get something simple that can be upgraded easily (the main thing here would probably be getting a mobo with a socket unlikely to be replaced in the near future).

 

[RagnorakTres]

Do not buy a keyboard for more than $25 unless it has mechanical keys. Here's why. [http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html]

The mouse is good, though.

Oh damn. Thanks for the tip, RAK, I've been looking into upgrading Kyria lately anyway, I didn't even know there were different types of keyboard switches. ><

 

[Fooz]

No, no, no, no, no.

Do not buy a keyboard for more than $25 unless it has mechanical keys. Here's why. [http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html]

The mouse is good, though.

wow, too much effort was put into that keyboards thread haha, that must have taken forever to make, gotta praise whoever made it though

O.T. that PC will last you for ages, you would be able to play basically all games at max for a long time

 

[AWC Viper]

Alright, so a while back I was looking for a new PC, and I still am. I want to buy an awesome PC to begin with so I dont have to upgrade it every year. I have decided that I want to build the PC myself, so the only thing I need is the components, and I have a list of components i'm thinking of buying, I just want confirmation if this rig is any good, as I dont know anything at all about PC's (yet I can build them from the bottom... weird huh?)
Check the list of components out here

Cooler Master HAF X Big Tower
Corsair HX 850W PSU
Intel Core? i7 Quad Processor i7-2600
Corsair H50 Hydro Series CPU Cooler
ASUS Sabertooth P67, Socket-1155
Corsair Vengeance? DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 570 1280MB AMP!
2x Western Digital Caviar® Blue 1TB
Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Burner, AD-7260S

So I ask you, is this rig any good. Can it run Crysis 2 or Witcher 2?

Yes. Yes it will.

 

[Irriduccibilli]

I'm amazed how helpful people are on this forum, any other forum would probably spend five pages calling me a noob for not knowing what RAID is.
Thanks

Now another thing. I need a screen for my PC as well along with some speakers (already got a Siberia Neckband Headset so I have no need for that). Do you guys have any suggestions.

I have been looking at theese speakers
http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=485424&CKS=PCW
(Sorry, but its a link to a danish page)

And I have been looking at this screen as well
http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=599919&CKS=PCW
(again, a danish page)

Keep in mind that my budget is pretty tight, so I cant afford the most expensive set of speakers and screen

So I ask you, is this rig any good. Can it run Crysis 2 or Witcher 2?

Yes. Yes it will.

Short and sweet and I love it

I should probably have said
Can it run Crysis 2 and Witcher 2 on max settings

 

[bob1052]

You could build a computer for half that, run any game for years with a few upgrades, build a new computer with those specs then, use it for years with a few upgrades and you would be set for twice as long and still spend less money.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Can a GTX 570 run Crysis and Witcher? Are you serious?
There isn't a game on the market it can't run.

I think you're getting on the wrong boat here- that machine is POWERFUL yes, but by modern standards its simply too powerful. There isn't a game around that can't be perfectly run on hardware at about half the price. That may be personal preference of course, I've never seen the point of water cooling, triple-threadding and anything beyond a GTX 470. (Despite owning a 6970)

Some will tell you different, but sadly those are also the people that give PC gamers a little 'reputation'.

Well that is just fantastic, guess I wont have to upgrade my PC for a while then, excactly what I was trying to achieve with this PC

he is right, your doing a slight bit of overkill for your first build on that, you could chop off probably 400 dollars(don't know the exact euro conversion for that) on that rig and it would still run all games to date like a boss, hell my rig is a step down from that and I run multiple games plus school programs at the same time and my system barely hiccups at that.

 

[Griffolion]

Alright, so a while back I was looking for a new PC, and I still am. I want to buy an awesome PC to begin with so I dont have to upgrade it every year. I have decided that I want to build the PC myself, so the only thing I need is the components, and I have a list of components i'm thinking of buying, I just want confirmation if this rig is any good, as I dont know anything at all about PC's (yet I can build them from the bottom... weird huh?)
Check the list of components out here

Cooler Master HAF X Big Tower
Corsair HX 850W PSU
Intel Core? i7 Quad Processor i7-2600
Corsair H50 Hydro Series CPU Cooler
ASUS Sabertooth P67, Socket-1155
Corsair Vengeance? DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 570 1280MB AMP!
2x Western Digital Caviar® Blue 1TB
Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Burner, AD-7260S

So I ask you, is this rig any good. Can it run Crysis 2 or Witcher 2?

Not read any replies, but these are my thoughts coming from a pretty experienced builder.

HAF X = Good
HX 850 = Good (though if you're wanting to upgrade to a dual Nvidia GPU config, i'd go up to 1KW)
I7 2600 = Get the K unlocked version for better overclocking
H50 = Get the H70 OR the Prolimatech Armageddon
Sabertooth = Good (don't install the shield thing though)
Vengeance DDR3 = Good
GTX 570 = Good but is the weak link in your main triad (CPU, RAM, GPU), get a 580 instead.
WD Caviar Blue = NOOOOO! Main drive for the OS and critical applications get a Sanforce based SSD like the Corsair Force or the OCZ Vertex 2, 60GB and upwards will be enough. For storage like games, music, movies etc get a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3.
Optiarc = Good (get whatever is cheapest as the optical drive doesn't really matter in today's day and age).

As for your queston. Depends on the resolution. 1080? Yeah on max settings you should get minimum 40FPS, max 60. 1200 or above? You'll start losing frames, you'll need to compensate by getting a second GPU in SLI. If you're gaming above 1080, I advise going with ATI because their 6xxx series have, as standard, more memory than Nvidia equivalents, making them more capable at higher resolutions.

If you have any further questions, PM me.

 

[Irriduccibilli]

Can a GTX 570 run Crysis and Witcher? Are you serious?
There isn't a game on the market it can't run.

I think you're getting on the wrong boat here- that machine is POWERFUL yes, but by modern standards its simply too powerful. There isn't a game around that can't be perfectly run on hardware at about half the price. That may be personal preference of course, I've never seen the point of water cooling, triple-threadding and anything beyond a GTX 470. (Despite owning a 6970)

Some will tell you different, but sadly those are also the people that give PC gamers a little 'reputation'.

Well that is just fantastic, guess I wont have to upgrade my PC for a while then, excactly what I was trying to achieve with this PC

he is right, your doing a slight bit of overkill for your first build on that, you could chop off probably 400 dollars(don't know the exact euro conversion for that) on that rig and it would still run all games to date like a boss, hell my rig is a step down from that and I run multiple games plus school programs at the same time and my system barely hiccups at that.

It may be a bit overkill, but i'll say it again, I want a really good PC that I wont have to upgrade for the next couple of years, and I believe this is the one

Alright, so a while back I was looking for a new PC, and I still am. I want to buy an awesome PC to begin with so I dont have to upgrade it every year. I have decided that I want to build the PC myself, so the only thing I need is the components, and I have a list of components i'm thinking of buying, I just want confirmation if this rig is any good, as I dont know anything at all about PC's (yet I can build them from the bottom... weird huh?)
Check the list of components out here

Cooler Master HAF X Big Tower
Corsair HX 850W PSU
Intel Core? i7 Quad Processor i7-2600
Corsair H50 Hydro Series CPU Cooler
ASUS Sabertooth P67, Socket-1155
Corsair Vengeance? DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 570 1280MB AMP!
2x Western Digital Caviar® Blue 1TB
Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Burner, AD-7260S

So I ask you, is this rig any good. Can it run Crysis 2 or Witcher 2?

Not read any replies, but these are my thoughts coming from a pretty experienced builder.

HAF X = Good
HX 850 = Good (though if you're wanting to upgrade to a dual Nvidia GPU config, i'd go up to 1KW)
I7 2600 = Get the K unlocked version for better overclocking
H50 = Get the H70 OR the Prolimatech Armageddon
Sabertooth = Good (don't install the shield thing though)
Vengeance DDR3 = Good
GTX 570 = Good but is the weak link in your main triad (CPU, RAM, GPU), get a 580 instead.
WD Caviar Blue = NOOOOO! Main drive for the OS and critical applications get a Sanforce based SSD like the Corsair Force or the OCZ Vertex 2, 60GB and upwards will be enough. For storage like games, music, movies etc get a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3.
Optiarc = Good (get whatever is cheapest as the optical drive doesn't really matter in today's day and age).

As for your queston. Depends on the resolution. 1080? Yeah on max settings you should get minimum 40FPS, max 60. 1200 or above? You'll start losing frames, you'll need to compensate by getting a second GPU in SLI. If you're gaming above 1080, I advise going with ATI because their 6xxx series have, as standard, more memory than Nvidia equivalents, making them more capable at higher resolutions.

If you have any further questions, PM me.

Thanks, you just answerede all of my questions there.
I think i'm going to stick with the Caviar blue as an SSD drive is a bit too expensive for my taste, but thanks for the tip anyway. I can always add a SSD drive later if I feel like it.
As for the water cooling. I dont know if I should just skip it since alot of people are saying its pretty much a waste and there are cheaper and better solutions out there. That also makes the rig a bit cheaper... of course

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Can a GTX 570 run Crysis and Witcher? Are you serious?
There isn't a game on the market it can't run.

I think you're getting on the wrong boat here- that machine is POWERFUL yes, but by modern standards its simply too powerful. There isn't a game around that can't be perfectly run on hardware at about half the price. That may be personal preference of course, I've never seen the point of water cooling, triple-threadding and anything beyond a GTX 470. (Despite owning a 6970)

Some will tell you different, but sadly those are also the people that give PC gamers a little 'reputation'.

Well that is just fantastic, guess I wont have to upgrade my PC for a while then, excactly what I was trying to achieve with this PC

he is right, your doing a slight bit of overkill for your first build on that, you could chop off probably 400 dollars(don't know the exact euro conversion for that) on that rig and it would still run all games to date like a boss, hell my rig is a step down from that and I run multiple games plus school programs at the same time and my system barely hiccups at that.

It may be a bit overkill, but i'll say it again, I want a really good PC that I wont have to upgrade for the next couple of years, and I believe this is the one

lol you wont upgrade on that until the parts die out.

if anything i would get a smaller HDD but make sure its faster, a 10000 or 15000 rpm one, that'll help boost performance to boss mode to help compliment your stuff way better than having the top video card/processor/mobo (although those are all good things to have good parts of)

 

[blAAAm]

1. Stay far away from XFX, they are awful and there RMA process makes you wanna punch a baby.
2. Get an SSD 64-120GB for OS and important programs and a few games.

 

[Accountfailed]

I'm bad at keeping up with the latest hardware, but in my opinion, make sure also you buy a nice Keyboard, Mouse and even Mousepad (cheap, so totally worth it!) Like consoles, your controller is an important part of gaming. I have a Logitech G15 and G5 and absolutely love them, however there are better ones these days.

I already got a my eyes on a nice keyboard. I'm thinking of buying the Razer Lycosa Mirror keyboard, and I already got a Razer Lachesis 5600 DPI mouse, so i'm good

I would suggest, for a keyboard to get the Logitech g19 keyboard, the screen is incredibly useful for gaming , customer recommendation. <--

 

[Irriduccibilli]

Ok, so I have made a few modifications here
Now the list (the complete list this time) is looking like this

SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headphone (A limited time offer - FREE)
SteelSeries QcK mousemat (limited time offer - FREE)
Cooler Master HAF X Big Tower
Corsair HX 850W PSU
Intel Core? i7 Quad Processor i7-2600
Operation Flashpoint Red River (Core i7 offer - FREE)
ASUS Sabertooth P67, Socket-1155
Corsair Vengeance? DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9
MSI GeForce GTX 570 1280MB PhysX
2x Western Digital Caviar® Blue 1TB
Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Burner, AD-7260S
Razer Lycosa Mirror gaming keyboard
Razer Goliathus Alpha mouse pad - Speed (I like the design better than the Steelseries... besides, I already got a Steelseries mousemat)
BenQ 21,5" LED G2222HDL
Logitech Z523 Light Speakers

I'm bad at keeping up with the latest hardware, but in my opinion, make sure also you buy a nice Keyboard, Mouse and even Mousepad (cheap, so totally worth it!) Like consoles, your controller is an important part of gaming. I have a Logitech G15 and G5 and absolutely love them, however there are better ones these days.

I already got a my eyes on a nice keyboard. I'm thinking of buying the Razer Lycosa Mirror keyboard, and I already got a Razer Lachesis 5600 DPI mouse, so i'm good

I would suggest, for a keyboard to get the Logitech g19 keyboard, the screen is incredibly useful for gaming , customer recommendation. <--

I will take a look at it

EDIT: Ok, I just took a look at it, and I must say, it really looks like a cool keyboard... but the price is preeetty steep. It costs twice as much as the Lycosa keyboard I am looking for. Thanks for the tip though