Can someone please explain to me how anarchy is supposed to work? Edited
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What I have heard Anarchy is the break down of Civilized society not just a goverment. It becomes more about survival of the fittest, with people returning to primal instincts to survive. So let's hope that never happens.
Anarchy isn't a 'form of government' it's simply a state which would exist if government were to cease. Thing is, humans are social creatures - we require a variety of social interactions to fully develop our minds and personalities. Basically I'm saying that a human society would have an innate need to reinstate order - which would become new government.
Look at it this way, if there are 'good' people, as some suggest - wouldn't the strong 'good' people begin to protect the weak? Now they can only protect so many without some kind of system, maybe one that also organises the input of other 'Strong good' people, and all of a sudden, omg, government is back!! 'Honey, I am in my home!'
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Look at it this way, if there are 'good' people, as some suggest - wouldn't the strong 'good' people begin to protect the weak? Now they can only protect so many without some kind of system, maybe one that also organises the input of other 'Strong good' people, and all of a sudden, omg, government is back!! 'Honey, I am in my home!'
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This.pimppeter2 said:
Anarchy works because Its job is to not work, Anarchy's job is to keep goverments out of power, Absolute liberty and freedom. No rights at all, Unless you take them by force. Somehow this type of goverment, This is like "What god does Atheisim follow?" It doesn't follow a god, As an Anarchy wouldn't follow a goverment. Therefore, It's the only goverment that is 100% surefree to work, In the sence because it doesn't work. And I just confused myself...:S
It is impossible to know how anarchy will work. That's the point. You remove the system and allow a natural system to replace it. No one knows what kind of system it will be. It will develop out of the circumstances at the time. It may be freedom based, it may not. It may revolve around survival it may revolve around something else. There is no way to know before hand.
Thus how will it work becomes a redundant question.
Fallout 3 is a great example of anarchy. Society collapsed and even within a very small area (D.C.) many different styles of 'goverment' evolved. There are roving bands of people doing anything to survive, small settlements banding together and taming their environment through co-operation, segregated and isolated societies (think Megaton and the Oasis),large scale cities running on democratic principles (Rivet), family groups, highly ordered totalitarian regimes (vaults), structured military regimes (brotherhood, enclave) and so on. The point in anarchy is that each of these developed out of a need at the time and each is valid.
Thus how will it work becomes a redundant question.
Fallout 3 is a great example of anarchy. Society collapsed and even within a very small area (D.C.) many different styles of 'goverment' evolved. There are roving bands of people doing anything to survive, small settlements banding together and taming their environment through co-operation, segregated and isolated societies (think Megaton and the Oasis),large scale cities running on democratic principles (Rivet), family groups, highly ordered totalitarian regimes (vaults), structured military regimes (brotherhood, enclave) and so on. The point in anarchy is that each of these developed out of a need at the time and each is valid.
It's kind of a paradox really. When nothing works and all government has failed you will get anarchy. Anarchy only works when in fact nothing is working....
I can answer this question, because I am an Anarchist. Let me quickly answer a couple questions that come up very often
1)one, yes. Anarchy can work. The Zulu lived under and anarchy for 300 years before being taken over by the British. Look at Zimbabwe now.
2) Honestly, I don't think the collapse of a government will cause the massive panic that people think it will. Especially here in the states. Just because the police are gone dose not mean every goes bat shit crazy and riots in the streets. I honestly hope that the only thing keeping peoples morals in line are the Law, and fear of judgment.
3) Anarchy has honestly nothing to do with Chaos. Chaos does follow it, but is an Utopian, Idealist idea.
4) It is completely OK if you can't understand anarchism. To ask anyone on this board to live with out a government would be like telling them they don't need to breath. No body here has ever lived not under a government (exception being Iceland for like a day or two). So Take my view with a grain of salt if you have to. I just can't stand all these negative stereotypes of anarchist.
Speaking of which, do any of you know that that Graffiti-esque A you see isn't really the anarchist symbol, this is.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Anarchy-symbol.svg
It was made up by the media to make us look stupid
1)one, yes. Anarchy can work. The Zulu lived under and anarchy for 300 years before being taken over by the British. Look at Zimbabwe now.
2) Honestly, I don't think the collapse of a government will cause the massive panic that people think it will. Especially here in the states. Just because the police are gone dose not mean every goes bat shit crazy and riots in the streets. I honestly hope that the only thing keeping peoples morals in line are the Law, and fear of judgment.
3) Anarchy has honestly nothing to do with Chaos. Chaos does follow it, but is an Utopian, Idealist idea.
4) It is completely OK if you can't understand anarchism. To ask anyone on this board to live with out a government would be like telling them they don't need to breath. No body here has ever lived not under a government (exception being Iceland for like a day or two). So Take my view with a grain of salt if you have to. I just can't stand all these negative stereotypes of anarchist.
Speaking of which, do any of you know that that Graffiti-esque A you see isn't really the anarchist symbol, this is.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Anarchy-symbol.svg
It was made up by the media to make us look stupid
It's still an A in a circle,but it's not Graffiti. But good forbid, that might make it look like people with unpopular political opinions can think. And we can't have that can we?
but I guess I shouldn't really complain, only about 70 years ago my country was having people like me deported and exiled...so I guess media persecution isn't the worst.
As for steeltrain, this is an interesting story. I had no clue. It's kind of funny.
but I guess I shouldn't really complain, only about 70 years ago my country was having people like me deported and exiled...so I guess media persecution isn't the worst.
As for steeltrain, this is an interesting story. I had no clue. It's kind of funny.
most people really don't understand anarchy, they confuse it with chaos and lawlessness. there is a difference between those things
the best way to describe it, is Marxism without the government. you would have to have people helping one another to do various things and keep the community together, so really there would be some form of leadership but it's more individual.
anarchy is NOT the ability to go around and rape and kill anyone you wish because remember you are free to have that done to you. you can't steal everything and do absolutely nothing all day, why would someone give you food or do stuff if you're a lazy wanker? not many people would
anarchy works on a small scale but not on a larger one, like small city/town but not in a country or world
the best way to describe it, is Marxism without the government. you would have to have people helping one another to do various things and keep the community together, so really there would be some form of leadership but it's more individual.
anarchy is NOT the ability to go around and rape and kill anyone you wish because remember you are free to have that done to you. you can't steal everything and do absolutely nothing all day, why would someone give you food or do stuff if you're a lazy wanker? not many people would
anarchy works on a small scale but not on a larger one, like small city/town but not in a country or world
Anarchy is technically only the absence of government. This implies nothing about order or chaos; technically speaking, since there's no greater universal sovereign, states exist in a state of anarchy - that is, if Bulgaria has a beef with Turkey, there's no court or government to provide rules or figure shit out for them; any rules or anything like that are only there by social agreement, and there's nothing really binding states to their commitments.
When people say that they're for anarchy, they mean that they're for abolishing states. Anarchists, therefore, advocate for a society in which there is no law. Most people predict this leading to chaos, and I would agree with them. Some people think that people would get along just fine without law, however. The idea is that people will pool their resources for the shared things that they need; basically, groups of people who need roads will build roads, rather than governments. Criminals will basically be dealt with through vigilanteism, and nobody will commit crimes because they know everybody else will turn on them for disturbing order. Basically, it's a political philosophy for people who willfully ignore everything that they know about people.
When people say that they're for anarchy, they mean that they're for abolishing states. Anarchists, therefore, advocate for a society in which there is no law. Most people predict this leading to chaos, and I would agree with them. Some people think that people would get along just fine without law, however. The idea is that people will pool their resources for the shared things that they need; basically, groups of people who need roads will build roads, rather than governments. Criminals will basically be dealt with through vigilanteism, and nobody will commit crimes because they know everybody else will turn on them for disturbing order. Basically, it's a political philosophy for people who willfully ignore everything that they know about people.
Showing the picture that you showed made it sound like you don't know what anarchy is.Ragdrazi said:
