Can We Just Use Friendzone to Describe a Situation, Please?

[Caiphus]

Sigh, again why does it always have to be the implication that all men who use the term friendzone are automatically douche-bags regardless of other actions? Again, its a term that means unrequited love with a close friendship, usually a male to a female, it doesn't have to mean anything else or have any other implications. It is a useful slang term, and we need to let go of the constant freakout over its usage in a perfectly fine situation. Again, I had a crush on a girl I was close friends with, she didn't have feelings for me, but wanted to continue our friendship and appreciated me as a friend. In other words I was "friendzoned" or placed in the "friendzone". That simple.

Look, you seem like a reasonable, intelligent guy, who for some strange reason has got caught up on other people's interpretation of a word. Why not just use the term "unrequited love"?

People have already made it clear, in this thread, that they dislike the word, and people who use it unironically. You can argue about whether or not it's reasonable for them to do so, but plenty of people who do use the word unironically do so with the insinuation that it's unfair somehow that they didn't get sex. You know. And because of this, it probably is reasonable that people are at least cautious about the use of the word.

So yeah, if you want to have to explain that the way in which you use the word does not insinuate that you feel harshly done by because you didn't get your end wet, then go ahead. But it sort of defeats the purpose of slang if you have to explain your personal interpretation every time you use it.

Friendzone has those implications because, right now, the people who use it intend for it to have those implications. There's no other way around it.

EDIT:

I'm really tired of the negative sexist connotations people are trying to attach to either the word or how someone takes the situation.

But that's the term. The term developed as an expression of those "negative sexist connotations". Don't blame the forum. Blame language. That's how the term evolved.

So... We're supposed to blame some nebulous social construct for attaching sexist connotations to a word that is gender neutral. I can agree with that, however, I think you wrongly blame Language. It's clearly not Language's fault, the term itself means: Friendship based on unreturned romantic feelings. We're supposed to not use the word because a segment of society has attached sexist connotations where none exist? The assumption that it's a sexist term is what I take issue with. I don't take issue with the word. I take issue with those who are being sexist by attaching the sexist connotation to a gender neutral term.

You can blame whoever you want. Also, what is a romantic advance? Do you mean a romantic advantage?

The term friendzone has a colloquial meaning that implies something more than disappointment that romantic feelings weren't returned. It might be nice if it meant the same as "friendship with unreturned romantic feelings" or unrequited love, but it just doesn't.

Now, I don't really take issue with the word myself. I'd need context before I got annoyed by it. Some people probably genuinely use it without any negative feelings towards their love interest. But they need to be careful, because the colloquial usage does have negative connotations. Should it have those connotations? Probably, because so many people have used it, and intended to use it, to imply an unfair situation.

But being "friendzoned" isn't an unfair situation, like you seem to imply that it is.

Let's make a hypothetical:

Two parties enter into a friendship. One party has an agenda (which could just be a simple crush), but makes no mention of it and continues giving signals like he has no agenda. It's not unfair for the second party to act as if there is no agenda in the slightest; they don't know about it. And if the agenda surfaces (because the first party finally gets the courage to ask the second party on a date), well what do you want to happen?

The second party isn't exploiting the first by rejecting them and then still offering friendship, surely? That would be a bit absurd. There might be situations where that has happened, but I would hesitate to claim that it happens so frequently that it justifies the use of the term "friendzone"

 

[BloatedGuppy]

So... We're supposed to blame some nebulous social construct for attaching sexist connotations to a word that is gender neutral. I can agree with that, however, I think you wrongly blame Language. It's clearly not Language's fault, the term itself means: Friendship based on unreturned romantic feelings. We're supposed to not use the word because a segment of society has attached sexist connotations where none exist? The assumption that it's a sexist term is what I take issue with. I don't take issue with the word. I take issue with those who are being sexist by attaching the sexist connotation to a gender neutral term.

Who is "blaming"? The word has been around for a whopping couple of decades. It was slang from inception, and as such has enjoyed a highly mutable definition. It became the rallying cry for a demographic of angry men who were sick and tired of paying for dates and not getting laid in the aftermath, and thus became a polarizing sentiment that carried connotations of sullen entitlement and borderline misogyny. Too bad, so sad. As I sad before, I generally find it extremely irritating when people argue that formal language has "lost its definition" due to a handful of idiots misusing or misunderstanding it, but this is not the case with "Friend Zone". The current, tainted definition is as solid a definition as it's ever had. Your affection for it and desire to romanticize it notwithstanding.

I honestly find your emotional attachment to a 20 year old slang term somewhat confusing. It's like hearing from someone who is upset that they can't use "Radical!" any more after pulling off an awesome trick on their BMX without getting strange looks.

 

[Caiphus]

So... We're supposed to blame some nebulous social construct for attaching sexist connotations to a word that is gender neutral. I can agree with that, however, I think you wrongly blame Language. It's clearly not Language's fault, the term itself means: Friendship based on unreturned romantic feelings. We're supposed to not use the word because a segment of society has attached sexist connotations where none exist? The assumption that it's a sexist term is what I take issue with. I don't take issue with the word. I take issue with those who are being sexist by attaching the sexist connotation to a gender neutral term.

Who is "blaming"? The word has been around for a whopping couple of decades. It was slang from inception, and as such has enjoyed a highly mutable definition. It became the rallying cry for a demographic of angry men who were sick and tired of paying for dates and not getting laid in the aftermath, and thus became a polarizing sentiment that carried connotations of sullen entitlement and borderline misogyny. Too bad, so sad. As I sad before, I generally find it extremely irritating when people argue that formal language has "lost its definition" due to a handful of idiots misusing or misunderstanding it, but this is not the case with "Friend Zone". The current, tainted definition is as solid a definition as it's ever had. Your affection for it and desire to romanticize it notwithstanding.

I honestly find your emotional attachment to a 20 year old slang term somewhat confusing. It's like hearing from someone who is upset that they can't use "Radical!" any more after pulling off an awesome trick on their BMX without getting strange looks.

Is it a generational thing? I've only been around a couple of decades as a person. I don't like the term "friendzone", but I'm still of the age where playground crushes are a not-so-distant memory. Would that context make the usage of the word any different?

Like I said above, I don't really begrudge anyone for using the word out of context. It's a dumb word, but I don't know. I never really saw it as a "rallying cry" of angry, horny, frustrated men.
If they were legitimately angry at a female friend for not providing sex, I'd probably scold them. But, meh. It's just a dumb word.

 

[ninjaRiv]

I didn't find out there was any negativity towards the term until not long ago. I always defined Friendzone as a guy having feelings for a girl, they become friends (or they already were) and it goes nowhere or he tries but he gets the "I like you as a friend" shit. And, of course, there's the "why can't guys be more like you" shit. That sucks to hear since we are like us.

But anyone who befriends a girl for the hope of sex and nothing else is a dick. Friendzone has happened to me twice and it didn't stop me from carrying on the friendship (one of them is my best friend.)

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Like I said above, I don't really begrudge anyone for using the word out of context. It's a dumb word, but I don't know. I never really saw it as a "rallying cry" of angry, horny, frustrated men.
If they were legitimately angry at a female friend for not providing sex, I'd probably scold them. But, meh. It's just a dumb word.

The word doesn't bother me. As I said earlier in the thread, I can find it quite amusing (depending, as you say, on context). I'm just aware of where the backlash came from, and I'm not particularly surprised by it, nor do I feel motivated to "Defend the Friend Zone" as if it were an orphan child. Slang terms and colloquialisms take on new meanings all the time. If peeps don't like the connotations that have risen up around this one, they can come up with a clever new term to communicate their woes.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

It's one of the requirements to be in the friendzone though.

Not really. Frustrated sexual desire is sufficient to qualify.

 

[Vegosiux]

It's one of the requirements to be in the friendzone though.

Not really. Frustrated sexual desire is sufficient to qualify.

Yeah, maybe those hardcore Christians have a point. We should simply teach our young to repress their sexuality, and this entire friendzone concept will just disappear after a generation or three (if only because nobody will ever talk about it anymore).

Sure, we'll move a few decades back on social development, but at least we'll be finally be rid of friendzone threads. So it's all for a good cause.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Yeah, maybe those hardcore Christians have a point. We should simply teach our young to repress their sexuality, and this entire friendzone concept will just disappear after a generation or three (if only because nobody will ever talk about it anymore).

Sure, we'll move a few decades back on social development, but at least we'll be finally be rid of friendzone threads. So it's all for a good cause.

You've been in this thread long enough to have read my previous thoughts on the subject. Which is why you know that was a ridiculous thing to read into my post. Do you want a mulligan?

 

[AlbertoDeSanta]

I think we should dispose of ti altogether. Face it, if you're friends with a male/female who you wish to court, tell him/her how you feel and if they don't want to court you, deal with that. There is no worse love then Unrequited love, just tell them. It's not easy, but it's more positive then negative.

 

[Yeager942]

[HEADING=1]Highway to the friend-a-zone![/HEADING]

I think the word needs to be banished within the annuls of other such ridiculous words, like 'chillax' and 'mansplain'.

Fucking agreed. If a girl doesn't see you in the romantic way you do, stop complaining on the internet and find someone else. Man up and get over it, instead of spamming, "All girls are sluts," or some nonsense.

 

[Vegosiux]

Either that or we could start a public awareness campaign on the benefits of a good strong wank.

Ah, taking steps into the other direction. That might work too. (Though some experts would argue that doing too much of that can make sex more difficult to enjoy, if I recall correctly) Anyway, do read on tho.

You've been in this thread long enough to have read my previous thoughts on the subject. Which is why you know that was a ridiculous thing to read into my post. Do you want a mulligan?

Ridiculous is quite right, actually. I won't be taking that mulligan, mostly because I feel I'm at the point where I toss my cards through the window and start breakdancing on the table instead. The more I read these threads the less I understand it all. I mean yeah, interpersonal relationships are complicated but the "friendzone" talk simply seems like the exactly wrong angle to approach that from - at this point it doesn't even matter who made it such a big deal (I still think it was invented in Friends, where the talk was basically paraphrased as "Ross, quit being such a wuss, if you want to go out with Rachel, man up and ask her if she'd go out with you, or someone else will and you'll beat yourself up over letting him beat you to it despite having miles of head start" and that was that), now it simply seems like a vicious circle with no real beginning or end. Well, more of a vortex than a circle, sucking people in like we're a bunch of suckers every time.

It's merely a rather stubborn smokescreen for the real issues now, the issues of dealing with romantic rejection. At best it's a good example of "what not to do", and at worst it's a cop-out from taking a moment and understanding that things sometimes simply don't work out the way we want them to. I don't know, I'm getting pretty frustrated. This isn't something I think we should even be talking about; we can make the entire concept go away if we simply ignore it and develop a habit of pressing the issue directly instead.[footnote]Hey, a man can dream...[/footnote]

(By the way, returning to my last post, I also had a rather comedic idea in my head for making sure nobody will want to watch porn anymore - just force a drab, monotonous explanation of human reproduction as a voiceover all the time and let Dr. Pavlov do his thing. And I only mentioned this now because who knows when I get the next chance to.)

Okay, now I'm really goofing off.

 

[Lonewolfm16]

Sigh, again why does it always have to be the implication that all men who use the term friendzone are automatically douche-bags regardless of other actions? Again, its a term that means unrequited love with a close friendship, usually a male to a female, it doesn't have to mean anything else or have any other implications. It is a useful slang term, and we need to let go of the constant freakout over its usage in a perfectly fine situation. Again, I had a crush on a girl I was close friends with, she didn't have feelings for me, but wanted to continue our friendship and appreciated me as a friend. In other words I was "friendzoned" or placed in the "friendzone". That simple.

Look, you seem like a reasonable, intelligent guy, who for some strange reason has got caught up on other people's interpretation of a word. Why not just use the term "unrequited love"?

People have already made it clear, in this thread, that they dislike the word, and people who use it unironically. You can argue about whether or not it's reasonable for them to do so, but plenty of people who do use the word unironically do so with the insinuation that it's unfair somehow that they didn't get sex. You know. And because of this, it probably is reasonable that people are at least cautious about the use of the word.

So yeah, if you want to have to explain that the way in which you use the word does not insinuate that you feel harshly done by because you didn't get your end wet, then go ahead. But it sort of defeats the purpose of slang if you have to explain your personal interpretation every time you use it.

Friendzone has those implications because, right now, the people who use it intend for it to have those implications. There's no other way around it.

EDIT:

I'm really tired of the negative sexist connotations people are trying to attach to either the word or how someone takes the situation.

But that's the term. The term developed as an expression of those "negative sexist connotations". Don't blame the forum. Blame language. That's how the term evolved.

So... We're supposed to blame some nebulous social construct for attaching sexist connotations to a word that is gender neutral. I can agree with that, however, I think you wrongly blame Language. It's clearly not Language's fault, the term itself means: Friendship based on unreturned romantic feelings. We're supposed to not use the word because a segment of society has attached sexist connotations where none exist? The assumption that it's a sexist term is what I take issue with. I don't take issue with the word. I take issue with those who are being sexist by attaching the sexist connotation to a gender neutral term.

You can blame whoever you want. Also, what is a romantic advance? Do you mean a romantic advantage?

The term friendzone has a colloquial meaning that implies something more than disappointment that romantic feelings weren't returned. It might be nice if it meant the same as "friendship with unreturned romantic feelings" or unrequited love, but it just doesn't.

Now, I don't really take issue with the word myself. I'd need context before I got annoyed by it. Some people probably genuinely use it without any negative feelings towards their love interest. But they need to be careful, because the colloquial usage does have negative connotations. Should it have those connotations? Probably, because so many people have used it, and intended to use it, to imply an unfair situation.

But being "friendzoned" isn't an unfair situation, like you seem to imply that it is.

Let's make a hypothetical:

Two parties enter into a friendship. One party has an agenda (which could just be a simple crush), but makes no mention of it and continues giving signals like he has no agenda. It's not unfair for the second party to act as if there is no agenda in the slightest; they don't know about it. And if the agenda surfaces (because the first party finally gets the courage to ask the second party on a date), well what do you want to happen?

The second party isn't exploiting the first by rejecting them and then still offering friendship, surely? That would be a bit absurd. There might be situations where that has happened, but I would hesitate to claim that it happens so frequently that it justifies the use of the term "friendzone"

Leaving the edit behind, (I am certainly not rushing to defend his frankly baffling views on interpersonal relationships, but people have already done the criticism for me (I messed up, see my edit)) I guess I just hate to see a useful word that I like and appreciate be ruined by a ironic collection of sexually frustrated misogynistic men, who are often sympathetic but misguided and all the other times douche-bags, and hyper sensitive "socially conscience" types. I like the word. And more than that I am sick of seeing people using the word using a definition that, while being contested, is still applicable (the definition I prefer usually) and getting dog-piled under accusations of misogyny from morons. A good example of the words usage that I heard during work today (on the topic of adorable being used as a compliment) "It pretty much means, cute in a platonic way, or cute but not cute enough to date. You hear it used alot in the friendzone." This was from a female friend of mine. It works. Yet if someone posted that on a forum odds are they would get dog-piled with accusations of manipulative douchebaggery or pathetic emotional stuntedness. Or both. I just want to see the definition that works, and that I hear most, to be recognized, if not accepted as the main definition.

Edit: Oops, got my edits mixed up. Disregard the part where I talk about disregarding your edit. For some reason got what I was reading mixed up.

 

[Caiphus]

Leaving the edit behind, (I am certainly not rushing to defend his frankly baffling views on interpersonal relationships, but people have already done the criticism for me (I messed up, see my edit)) I guess I just hate to see a useful word that I like and appreciate be ruined by a ironic collection of sexually frustrated misogynistic men, who are often sympathetic but misguided and all the other times douche-bags, and hyper sensitive "socially conscience" types. I like the word. And more than that I am sick of seeing people using the word using a definition that, while being contested, is still applicable (the definition I prefer usually) and getting dog-piled under accusations of misogyny from morons. A good example of the words usage that I heard during work today (on the topic of adorable being used as a compliment) "It pretty much means, cute in a platonic way, or cute but not cute enough to date. You hear it used alot in the friendzone." This was from a female friend of mine. It works. Yet if someone posted that on a forum odds are they would get dog-piled with accusations of manipulative douchebaggery or pathetic emotional stuntedness. Or both. I just want to see the definition that works, and that I hear most, to be recognized, if not accepted as the main definition.

Edit: Oops, got my edits mixed up. Disregard the part where I talk about disregarding your edit. For some reason got what I was reading mixed up.

Edits are fun!

I empathise with your position, and in an ideal world I would agree with you. Unfortunately, because people *clearly* will have a negative reaction to the term friendzone on this website, you just need to be careful (altough, if you use it on 4chan you'll fit right in, not to imply you're the kind of person that frequents 4chan). The word has a misogynistic history, and you can't really blame people for being suspicious if you start waving it around willy-nilly.

It's like in my country, the word "****" is used as a term of endearment, mostly. I still couldn't use it on this website and act surprised if I found myself on the business end of the moderation system.
But, and this seems to be the case with your female friend example, you seem to be able to use it in real life. Which is great! Just like me and "****", you'll know if there are friends about who will have the same interpretation of "friendzone" as you.
Like I said, I would just be careful using it in mixed company.

But hey, it's not nearly as offensive of a word in most contexts. I would hesitate to defend people who dogpile someone just because he used the word friendzone. You'll usually be able to tell, with context, whether there was any malice behind it.

Another awesome edit:

I'll give an example - If you posted "This girl I know has been flirting with me non-stop. I even left my previous short-term girlfriend when she suggested it. I asked her on a date, but she said she was already seeing someone. I feel friendzoned, escapist, help "
Then yeah, I don't see a problem.

However, if you post "I've been super nice to a female friend for the past two months, but she wouldn't let me sex her. I feel friendzoned, escapist, help "
Then, well, don't expect a huge amount of sympathy.

 

[ShipofFools]

Oi, this topic again.
Given how often I've seen it come by on the internet, I have not given it much thought. I guess I am in a situation that some of you might call the friendzone, but I do not see it that way.

Quite some time ago, I met this amazing woman at work. We hit it off the moment we met. First we planned our smoke breaks so we could have them together, and a few weeks later we started visiting each other outside of work.
Now, I knew right from the start that she has a boyfriend. I've met him a lot, actually, since she lives with him.
At first everything was fine, our friendship was growing, and I had no romantic interest at all.
But the more I got to know her, the more I got the feeling that she is something special. We can tell each other everything, you know? Even things I can't tell my friends, and things she can't tell her partner.

I do not know who made the first move, my memory is hazy. But at some point we became very comfortable with us touching each other. Hugs, cuddling, holding hands, that sort of thing.
And at some point, everything went wrong.

It is strange to look back upon it. At one point she was a really good mate of mine, and at another point I had strong feelings for her. When exactly this changed I do not know.
I wanted to push those feelings away, but it was futile. And I had to tell her what was happening to me.

It was bad, I can tell you that. For the both of us. We talked for hours...
She loves me, but she loves her partner as well, and her loyalty is something I have always admired.
And so, we took a break from each other. Once again, we planned our smoke breaks accordingly, so we could see each other.
But we haven't visited each other for two weeks now. It's painful, and a good thing at the same time.
Things are getting better now, and we've made it clear to each other that we are still committed to the friendship.
Tomorrow evening she's coming to my house again. Maybe. If she thinks she's ready again.

And that is the story of how I "got friend zoned".
My thoughts on the matter?
This is what life is all about! If you can't hold on to a good friend because she rejected you, then you are just not the good friend you thought you were. Simple as that.

 

[Lonewolfm16]

Leaving the edit behind, (I am certainly not rushing to defend his frankly baffling views on interpersonal relationships, but people have already done the criticism for me (I messed up, see my edit)) I guess I just hate to see a useful word that I like and appreciate be ruined by a ironic collection of sexually frustrated misogynistic men, who are often sympathetic but misguided and all the other times douche-bags, and hyper sensitive "socially conscience" types. I like the word. And more than that I am sick of seeing people using the word using a definition that, while being contested, is still applicable (the definition I prefer usually) and getting dog-piled under accusations of misogyny from morons. A good example of the words usage that I heard during work today (on the topic of adorable being used as a compliment) "It pretty much means, cute in a platonic way, or cute but not cute enough to date. You hear it used alot in the friendzone." This was from a female friend of mine. It works. Yet if someone posted that on a forum odds are they would get dog-piled with accusations of manipulative douchebaggery or pathetic emotional stuntedness. Or both. I just want to see the definition that works, and that I hear most, to be recognized, if not accepted as the main definition.

Edit: Oops, got my edits mixed up. Disregard the part where I talk about disregarding your edit. For some reason got what I was reading mixed up.

Edits are fun!

I empathise with your position, and in an ideal world I would agree with you. Unfortunately, because people *clearly* will have a negative reaction to the term friendzone on this website, you just need to be careful (altough, if you use it on 4chan you'll fit right in, not to imply you're the kind of person that frequents 4chan). The word has a misogynistic history, and you can't really blame people for being suspicious if you start waving it around willy-nilly.

It's like in my country, the word "****" is used as a term of endearment, mostly. I still couldn't use it on this website and act surprised if I found myself on the business end of the moderation system.
But, and this seems to be the case with your female friend example, you seem to be able to use it in real life. Which is great! Just like me and "****", you'll know if there are friends about who will have the same interpretation of "friendzone" as you.
Like I said, I would just be careful using it in mixed company.

But hey, it's not nearly as offensive of a word in most contexts. I would hesitate to defend people who dogpile someone just because he used the word friendzone. You'll usually be able to tell, with context, whether there was any malice behind it.

Another awesome edit:

I'll give an example - If you posted "This girl I know has been flirting with me non-stop. I even left my previous short-term girlfriend when she suggested it. I asked her on a date, but she said she was already seeing someone. I feel friendzoned, escapist, help "
Then yeah, I don't see a problem.

However, if you post "I've been super nice to a female friend for the past two months, but she wouldn't let me sex her. I feel friendzoned, escapist, help "
Then, well, don't expect a huge amount of sympathy.

I just wish we could all agree on a meaning and then get along. Still, probably isn't happening. Though on your examples, the second one is a example of the stereotypical douchebag friendzone usage, but the above seems to be more of a leading on situation. I would think of the standard friendzone usage applying my definition to be more along the lines of "so theres this girl. She is really amazing, I love everything about her. And we have been spending lots of time together, which I really enjoy, and she seems to too. But she is also one of the most beautiful girls I have ever met, and I ended up developing a crush on her. Thats a massive understatement. But when I finally got the courage to ask her out she said she saw me only as a friend, but really really liked me and wanted to stay friends. I want to be friends with her too, but this really sucks. Its frustrating and confusing and I am left wondering how she can like me so much, yet not feel anything romantically. Not attractive enough? Not her type? Just generally categorized me as a friend and nothing more? So, Escapists, not sure anything can be done about this, but still, thoughts? Advice?" (Wow, rereading that, I bled a bit more of myself into that then I intended.) Still, that is more of what I think of as being the friendzone, and from the usage I have heard, mostly in real life, that seems to be what most people around here think of it as also.
On a side note, I kinda don't like how whenever people who don't like the term try and depict people who do they tend to characterize them as wanting sex, and nothing else (theres tons of examples of this in this forum, but its late and I am feeling too lazy to look). I don't think that is accurate. In my view they generally want a romantic relationship, which will hopefully include sex. They want to date someone, not just a hookup. I know that "you just want to get your knob wet" sounds better as a insult, but still I feel its a bit of a mischaracterization.

 

[Caiphus]

On a side note, I kinda don't like how whenever people who don't like the term try and depict people who do they tend to characterize them as wanting sex, and nothing else (theres tons of examples of this in this forum, but its late and I am feeling too lazy to look). I don't think that is accurate. In my view they generally want a romantic relationship, which will hopefully include sex. They want to date someone, not just a hookup. I know that "you just want to get your knob wet" sounds better as a insult, but still I feel its a bit of a mischaracterization.

That's just the unfortunate colloquial interpretation of friendzone. It's not entirely a characterisation because thats what people have been using it for .

Now, I'm not sure how old you are. I think at at my age of 20 the common use of friendzone doesn't necessarily imply wanting sex because not everyone is out getting it; people are still living with their parents and everything. I can see the meaning changing significantly by the time I reach 30. So bear that in mind, it's what I was asking BloatedGuppy earlier.

The example you posted sounds a hell of a lot like unrequited love, and I don't think anyone would be right in getting bent out of shape about it.

The turning point will always be whether or not the girl is blameworthy in the situation , and whether or not the person using the term friendzone is trying to lay blame or any other negative trait on the girl . Which is where people, understandably, have a big issue. Women, while constantly being reminded that they should stay pure and innocent, shouldn't be chastised for not putting out just to satisfy a crush. But you probably realise this.

I used my leading on example to try and illustrate that rule. The girl there is clearly blameworthy. It might have been a bit extreme. But the general rule stands.

In your example, it doesn't sound like you would be blaming the girl (it just sounds like you would be fawning over her in a big way). And most of us have been there. I think, because of the colloquial meaning of friendzone, you wouldn't be doing *yourself* credit in any way, since it's such a raw, emotional feeling to have a deep crush like that. Using slang might seem a bit out of place. And notice you didn't actually use the word "friendzone" at any point in that example.

Hell, I know I did two years of cadet training in high school to be near a girl I had a crush on. Fucking silly, really.

But yeah, it would be nice if we could all get along. This forum is a hell of a lot less antagonistic than most other gaming forums though, so there's that.

 

[Kaxbe]

I just assumed that people started using the term "friendzone" because they were too stupid to know how to pronounce "unrequited", let alone what it means.