Can you really consider someone in a powersuit badass?

[zealk]

no no no, its the dependency on a certain item excluding weapons... unless they have a large variety of weapons and they choose only one then it counts. like playing halo using only the rocket launcher because you cant kill with any other weapon.

 

[Buizel91]

So I made the "Most Badass Video Game Character" thread and many people claimed Master Chief Samus etc.. but I honestly put them at the bottom of my list. Why? They are in a power suit that enhances their abilities to make them so invulnerable/'badass'. Someone like Big Boss/Solid Snake, Batman, Auron, Kratos (debatable) are badass because they do their thing with nothing but their own badassery (<----- made that word up) to completely own all that oppose them. to be fair they do have their weapons and such but they are usually facing a much stronger opponent. Ex. Snake vs tank, Batman vs Killer Croc/Bane, Auron (doesn't matter...), Kratos vs Legions of eemies and every God on Olympus + titans.....shirtless.

Do you agree? If not why?

I don't consider Characters like the Chief Badass Just because of Armour...

He's Badass because Spartans in general are just Badass, their attitude, the way they kill their enemies.

For Example...

 

[zealk]

Real men fight in the Imperial Guard! Space Marines are nothing but pussies in heavy armor!

You're right. Real men fight in the Imperial Guard. Gods fight in the Space Marines.

high five dude! after all how is hiding in a tank diffrent than wearing a suit? well for one one is a fucking tank and the other is armor!

 

[ReaperzXIII]

Yes because celeberated war vets like Simo Hayha who got over 700 kills aren't badasses because they wore armour, let's see those pussies take on the other armies with nothing but a loin cloth and a couple guns. A lot of the game characters considered badass are still human and can die, powersuits just decrease that chance, someone who doesnt wear armour and can do everything they do is just a bigger badass.

Just because someone has a powersuit/armour that enhances their natural abilities doesn't make them any less badass it makes them a super powered badass aka badass squared.

 

[Danzaivar]

I think the best way to demonstrate this would be to use Tony Stark (Iron Man).

Out of his suit, Tony Stark is an undeniable bad ass. He's a great scientist, he's popular with the ladies, he's rich and charismatic and all kinds of awesome.

In his suit, he can take a tank shell to the face, he's a freaking superhero.

Does Iron Man become less or more bad ass when he puts the suit on? The answer is more; thus the answer to the topic is an empathetic "Yes".

Good day, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[zealk]

I think the best way to demonstrate this would be to use Tony Stark (Iron Man).

Out of his suit, Tony Stark is an undeniable bad ass. He's a great scientist, he's popular with the ladies, he's rich and charismatic and all kinds of awesome.

In his suit, he can take a tank shell to the face, he's a freaking superhero.

Does Iron Man become less or more bad ass when he puts the suit on? The answer is more; thus the answer to the topic is an empathetic "Yes".

Good day, ladies and gentlemen.

wait wait wait... you cant take iorn man, a well written character and pit him against the others in a talent show. thats unfair, look i think how the suit is used, mixed with accomplishments is the ticket.

for instance, would iron man still be bad ass if he lost every fight? no... because the suit isent in play on that subject... its the fact that he made the suit with the idea of being bad ass in it.

 

[SGrahambo]

if they are in a power suit, they only get to be called "bad-ass" if they do a bunch of creative bad-ass stuff with it. like punching someone in (or through) the face while your fist is giving them the finger and holding an armed grenade.

 

[archvile93]

A badass uses the tools at their disposal to get the job done. All of the characters you mentioned have their own tools they need to get the job done. Such as Solid's chameleon suit, Kratos' divine assistance, or Batman's...everything. Strip them of these things and they're no better off than the "bottom tier" badasses you mentioned. Also, in regards to Halo, if you try putting on that armor without being sufficiently badass it'll kill you.

 

[zealk]

if they are in a power suit, they only get to be called "bad-ass" if they do a bunch of creative bad-ass stuff with it. like punching someone in (or through) the face while your fist is giving them the finger and holding an armed grenade.

... i feel that is a incomplete thought there.

 

[StriderShinryu]

Why not Samus? You try and kill things in space without power armour and we'll see how long you can survive the vacuum and toxic planets. Not wearing armour in these situations doesn't make you badass, it makes you a bloody moron.

Yeah, but what does it make you when you have the armour but don't use it until someone tells you you're allowed to?

 

[Ace of Spades]

Robert Downy Jr. did it pretty well in Iron Man.

 

[zealk]

A badass uses the tools at their disposal to get the job done. All of the characters you mentioned have their own tools they need to get the job done. Such as Solid's chameleon suit, Kratos' divine assistance, or Batman's...everything. Strip them of these things and they're no better off than the "bottom tier" badasses you mentioned. Also, in regards to Halo, if you try putting on that armor without being sufficiently badass it'll kill you.

thank you, exacly my point... oh and master cheif is still on the table cus he had the genetic enhancement on him. in fact all of the spartans did.

 

[zealk]

Why not Samus? You try and kill things in space without power armour and we'll see how long you can survive the vacuum and toxic planets. Not wearing armour in these situations doesn't make you badass, it makes you a bloody moron.

Yeah, but what does it make you when you have the armour but don't use it until someone tells you you're allowed to?

id like to take a vote... who here thinks that game was a abortion idea and thinks it shouldn't count towards her? i mean it practically isent samus any more! its like a imposter took her place.

 

[Kenko]

Real men fight in the Imperial Guard! Space Marines are nothing but pussies in heavy armor!

You're right. Real men fight in the Imperial Guard. Gods fight in the Space Marines.

You speak heresy. There is only the God Emperor. Report to the nearest Inquisitor for summary execution.

 

[Xero Scythe]

If they made the suit- Badass
If they stole the suit under the highest security- Badass
Man who can use powersuit to the fullest because of innate techniques (Suzaku and Lancelot from Code Geass)- Badass

1. Do not take credit for a word I made up. You owe me a quarter. Don't try to take credit for Awesomegasm either.
2. People like Batman yes, people like Kratos, no. It's easy to be badass when you're divine. That's less badass than being a normal who through a tin can becomes incredibly badass.
People like Snake cannot be badass as they are entirely reliant on stealth which is the opposite of badass.

I think someone who can sneak through 7 armies that have tech high enough to spot a mouse stealing some cheese from Pluto should be considered badass. Why should only fighters be considered badasses?

 

[zealk]

Real men fight in the Imperial Guard! Space Marines are nothing but pussies in heavy armor!

You're right. Real men fight in the Imperial Guard. Gods fight in the Space Marines.

You speak heresy. There is only the God Emperor. Report to the nearest Inquisitor for summary execution.

im tau... you cant order me around

 

[Shock and Awe]

Master Chief was a total badass even before he got his power suit.

 

[zealk]

Master Chief's armor doesn't really do that much. Sure, it makes him much stronger than the average human being, and gives him shields so that he can take a decent amount of damage before it actually hurts him in any way, but all of the technology of his armor is reverse engineered covenant tech. The elites that he's fighting have all the same abilities he does, they're pretty much just as strong, and they also have armor and shields. The difference between Master Chief and the elites he's fighting, is that there are hundreds more elites (as well as other covenant, some stronger, some weaker).

Basically, Master Chief is fighting hundreds of enemies that have basically the same strong points that he himself does. It would be like Kratos fighting hundreds of guys with his same exact arsenal and powers, or Samus fighting hundreds of enemies that have the exact same suit and powerups as her.

Am I saying that Master Chief is the most badass character? Not at all, but I really don't think that you can say that he isn't badass just because he has a power suit, considering the odds that he has to go up against.

well hold on a minute! then riddle me this bat man, if he is just as strong as the elite's then why can the elite's be killed by humans? or for that matter why are the brutes able to fight the elite's so easy? the answer, their skill does shit against a gun that every one has! if your weakness is the thing every one commonly uses it tend to cause problems

 

[Kuchinawa212]

Of course, I mean, are you going to tell him he looks silly.
Then get punched in the face with his power fist? No

 

[zealk]

the point is master chief is as strong as any one else... WITH THE SUIT.