Can you relate with me?

[TriggerOnly]

So i am now 17 male soon to be 18
(in Australia 18 is the legal age to do every thing drink,drive so on)

Temperately staying at my big brothers house and his young family.(was kicked out of home) while I look for a place to stay.

Just additional info to my situation and some what of a insight to were i am ATM.
(not trying to sell a life story, so please don't take it that way)

(more info big family 6 sis 2 bros I'm the last of the rabbits)
^ ^ ^
So to get on with the point.
The relating part.

In my World, I feel like all the people around me( by all I mean family i don't have any friends real life witch is more choice then any thing els) listen at all when i try to talk about even the most minor of things. I feel as though to my family that my opinions have little to no weight at all.


so to sum up...

I guess what I'm looking for in this post is the see if my fellow escapist can relate.

as if every one is always moving, always talking but never saying any thing and never considering how they act towards the people that are 'meant' to be significant.

do you feel alone even though you have many people around you ? as if you don't really matter not on a deep level more just people going though the motions when talking to you ?

as I'm asking you i will answer my own question to kick things off

ATM my perspective of this world and the people in it and around me, is that i do not really matter they all have lives and have there own things going on witch is fine. I think even if i died it would not have a deep effect on them, and that they will move on fine. Witch i understand and really am find with.


FINISHING UP...

this is a long read and i don't know if it will be a miss or what the response will be but as i come the end of it i think i probably just want to feel heard.

so again if you feel the same or have any opinion let me know any ways peace out lets see what happens


p.s I write this type of thing because of stated reasons above but also I find deep conversation interesting as well as other peoples opinion and prescriptive.

 

[Frotality]

i live with delusional old people and their 30-something son who acts like any given reality TV spoiled white girl.

its not that they actively try to ignore anything we say OP, its just that we might as well be speaking an alien language. some people just cant help but interpret everything from their own narrow perspective and never consider where your coming from, and yes, its very annoying when those are the people you have to talk to the most.

 

[RedBeta22]

Don't feel to bad. I often feel the same way. I find the best thing to do when I'm feeling down or alone or that nothing really matters, is just do something I love. Read a book, go for a walk, anything to keep your mind busy with other stuff. 2 things make me that I enjoy the most are re-watching Yahtzee's videos and writing on my blog. I don't write about how I feel, i find dwelling on that jua=st makes it worse, like an itch that only gets worse the more you scratch. Anywho, I want you to know that there are people who can relate, we all can. Don't stress about things, In the end life doesn't really matter so why not enjoy it while you can?

 

[ChocoFace]

You could also be a ghost.
OT: i used to have people not listening to much i was saying, so i became a tad bit more assertive. Problem solved.

 

[Hiikuro]

I always feel alone. I've never felt like a part of a group, and I don't think I've ever found someone that I can truly relate to or that is similar to me. At the same time I feel like everyone around me are part of a group and get along well with each other, with myself as an exception.

That is what I believe at my most extreme moments.

 

[TriggerOnly]

'snip'

I know the feeling when it come to people not being able to consider another persons deep thoughts and opinions no matter how well you to describe or explain. and I understand that with toughs types of people that they do not mean to. I don't not if it makes it better that they can not understand at that point in there lives what you are tying to say or that some can, and don't care when its important, purely for the reason they don't wont to spend there time. but i have come to realize over the years you cant change others only accept them for who they are. Witch can be hard.

'snip'

I think this is how we all feel really as if we are looking though the window glass at every one els

but watching the people around me i can safely say no one really has a clue what there doing, some people are just better at BSing then others.

and as for not fully relating to some one i look at it like this the more complex you are the harder it is to explain it all, its hard to find 1 person that can get you completely. Maybe you could find a bunch of people that each understand different parts of you.

Well there always issues with family.
First there's the generation gap: Parents can't or don't even try to understand the things that their children are interested in. Not to mention that that there are always certain subjects that you can't really discuss with your parents.

Second, siblings: brothers and sisters are always vying for attention, and you REALLY struck out by being born last in a family with 9 KIDS! =/

Everyone feels alone at some point, some more than others. You and I are similar in that we don't have any real friends, although our reasons may be different. It does suck however thinking that you don't matter, I've been there to. Don't you have any dreams or ambitions thought? Dude if you think you don't matter, MAKE YOURSELF MATTER! SET GOALS TO ACCOMPLISH! EVERYONE matters and that's how it SHOULD be! I see the noble intentions in you not wanting people to worry about you, and them not being deeply effected if You died BUT YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING FOR THEM, you SHOULD be living for YOURSELF! If you don't you've essentially thrown your life away, and here's one person who'll never forgive if you do <(

I think your are right about parents not trying to understand, and you are spot on with brothers/sisters trying to get some attention. As for myself living my life for others is not something I wish to do. I do not really care about what other people think if i did i would not cope well at this point, witch leads me to goals, dreams and ambitions, I truly have none I am not a motivated man, more solely driven by curiosity.

and thank you very much for that last comment you truly are a kind person.

on that note thank every one that responded made my night (3:15)

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

When you express an opinion, do you speak at a decent volume and with confidence?
Few people will listen if you're quiet and obviously unsure of yourself.

When you talk to someone, do you act as though what you're telling them is interesting?
If you aren't interested, they won't be...and they'll probably assume that you aren't interested in them either.

As nice as a world where everyone is sensetive might sound...that's not how things are. Forget idealism, the loud and the confident get noticed, the meek and the anxious do not. You're right...people are busy with there own lives, if you want their time and attention you're going to have to sell yourself a little, let 'em know you're worth knowing.

You recognise your own insignificance, in my book that's a big step towards a healthy attitude towards life. It's freeing to know that you don't matter...

Find something you love, and immerse yourself in it. You are the architect of your own life experience from this point of realisation. Eye of the tiger! Live the dream! Go for that crazy sounding restaurant and order yourself up a big bowl of Disney magic!

Failing that. Don't convince yourself that being introverted and philosophical is a bad thing, other people may get more caught up in life...but it often doesn't work out too well.

 

[TriggerOnly]

When you express an opinion, do you speak at a decent volume and with confidence?
Few people will listen if you're quiet and obviously unsure of yourself.

When you talk to someone, do you act as though what you're telling them is interesting?
If you aren't interested, they won't be...and they'll probably assume that you aren't interested in them either.

As nice as a world where everyone is sensetive might sound...that's not how things are. Forget idealism, the loud and the confident get noticed, the meek and the anxious do not. You're right...people are busy with there own lives, if you want their time and attention you're going to have to sell yourself a little, let 'em know you're worth knowing.

You recognise your own insignificance, in my book that's a big step towards a healthy attitude towards life. It's freeing to know that you don't matter...

Find something you love, and immerse yourself in it. You are the architect of your own life experience from this point of realization. Eye of the tiger! Live the dream! Go for that crazy sounding restaurant and order yourself up a big bowl of Disney magic!

Failing that. Don't convince yourself that being introverted and philosophical is a bad thing, other people may get more caught up in life...but it often doesn't work out too well.

Well i don't like small talk and try to avoid it. Attention is not something i crave. I do not feel the need to talk to people unless it is in a deep, and meaning full way, if not I'm happy not to

I do agree it is freeing to get over ones self, so to speak.

But I guess its the realization of the world ( not that i think i have it all figured out just what i have come to see) that has changed me a lot. I really never cared, nor wanted any thing out of life. now i am older and having to stand on my own two legs, the realization has made me question my self, and were i fit in or want to fit in. I guess I'm looking for motivation. But can one really make them self motivated through thought alone ? I personally would say no i think its experiences that make us change, and give us a new look and maybe the motivation to do things we never knew we wanted to.

 

[Palademon]

I can relate.
I can relate to a point where my life's goal is basically to be someone's favourite (i.e love).

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

When you express an opinion, do you speak at a decent volume and with confidence?
Few people will listen if you're quiet and obviously unsure of yourself.

When you talk to someone, do you act as though what you're telling them is interesting?
If you aren't interested, they won't be...and they'll probably assume that you aren't interested in them either.

As nice as a world where everyone is sensetive might sound...that's not how things are. Forget idealism, the loud and the confident get noticed, the meek and the anxious do not. You're right...people are busy with there own lives, if you want their time and attention you're going to have to sell yourself a little, let 'em know you're worth knowing.

You recognise your own insignificance, in my book that's a big step towards a healthy attitude towards life. It's freeing to know that you don't matter...

Find something you love, and immerse yourself in it. You are the architect of your own life experience from this point of realization. Eye of the tiger! Live the dream! Go for that crazy sounding restaurant and order yourself up a big bowl of Disney magic!

Failing that. Don't convince yourself that being introverted and philosophical is a bad thing, other people may get more caught up in life...but it often doesn't work out too well.

Well i don't like small talk and try to avoid it. Attention is not something i crave. I do not feel the need to talk to people unless it is in a deep, and meaning full way, if not I'm happy not to

I do agree it is freeing to get over ones self, so to speak.

But I guess its the realization of the world ( not that i think i have it all figured out just what i have come to see) that has changed me a lot. I really never cared, nor wanted any thing out of life. now i am older and having to stand on my own two legs, the realization has made me question my self, and were i fit in or want to fit in. I guess I'm looking for motivation. But can one really make them self motivated through thought alone ? I personally would say no i think its experiences that make us change, and give us a new look and maybe the motivation to do things we never knew we wanted to.

What is the realisation? The world is amazing! If you live in a perfectly nice part of the world and nothing is medically wrong with you...what reason is there not to appreciate the shit out of it?

Personally, I'm fairly introverted...I don't make strong bonds with people, when I do I get over them pretty quickly when things sour...I don't mourn the passing of loved-ones for very long. I don't long for romance, and despite spending alot of time alone it's rare that I feel even a little bit lonely. But I'm not going to waste my short existance moping around about my perceived short-comings...or entertaining misguided notions of how things could/should be different.

Not when I'm part of a species that has art, literature, music(really think about how on earth music is so pleasing to us), science, religion. You can release feel-good chemicals in your body simply by running around the block. You can have meaningful relationships with members of other species...sometimes when I'm walking my dogs it hits me just how improbable that is...it's by no means common throughout nature.

We are obsessed with the negative aspects of human life, and we have convinced ourselves that we are somehow clever to do so(this forum is rife with negativity). War, rape, murder...I'm not a fan, if truth be told. It's not going to sour my outlook on life. Even sex, something which is immensely enjoyable...we've turned it into a lifestyle obsession. We've trained ourselves to worry about size, performance, aesthetics...turning it into this grosely judgemental thing, it's almost as though we're trying to feel bad about ourselves. If we can ruin sex, we can ruin anything.

My point(sort of)is that human endeavour is ultimately silly, the zeitgeist is constantly shifting and we're forever confused. Our ideas on life are perpetually in flux, so don't get bogged down by cultural ideals or anyone who will tell you how to live...clearly they can't see past themselves. The natural world(which we ARE part of) is fascinating, living on the edge of society only puts you in a better position to appreciate that.

I'm alone, I'm without ambition, by many people's standards I'm a waster, and I love being alive.

Go figure.

 

[TriggerOnly]

When you express an opinion, do you speak at a decent volume and with confidence?
Few people will listen if you're quiet and obviously unsure of yourself.

When you talk to someone, do you act as though what you're telling them is interesting?
If you aren't interested, they won't be...and they'll probably assume that you aren't interested in them either.

As nice as a world where everyone is sensetive might sound...that's not how things are. Forget idealism, the loud and the confident get noticed, the meek and the anxious do not. You're right...people are busy with there own lives, if you want their time and attention you're going to have to sell yourself a little, let 'em know you're worth knowing.

You recognise your own insignificance, in my book that's a big step towards a healthy attitude towards life. It's freeing to know that you don't matter...

Find something you love, and immerse yourself in it. You are the architect of your own life experience from this point of realization. Eye of the tiger! Live the dream! Go for that crazy sounding restaurant and order yourself up a big bowl of Disney magic!

Failing that. Don't convince yourself that being introverted and philosophical is a bad thing, other people may get more caught up in life...but it often doesn't work out too well.

Well i don't like small talk and try to avoid it. Attention is not something i crave. I do not feel the need to talk to people unless it is in a deep, and meaning full way, if not I'm happy not to

I do agree it is freeing to get over ones self, so to speak.

But I guess its the realization of the world ( not that i think i have it all figured out just what i have come to see) that has changed me a lot. I really never cared, nor wanted any thing out of life. now i am older and having to stand on my own two legs, the realization has made me question my self, and were i fit in or want to fit in. I guess I'm looking for motivation. But can one really make them self motivated through thought alone ? I personally would say no i think its experiences that make us change, and give us a new look and maybe the motivation to do things we never knew we wanted to.

What is the realisation? The world is amazing! If you live in a perfectly nice part of the world and nothing is medically wrong with you...what reason is there not to appreciate the shit out of it?

Personally, I'm fairly introverted...I don't make strong bonds with people, when I do I get over them pretty quickly when things sour...I don't mourn the passing of loved-ones for very long. I don't long for romance, and despite spending alot of time alone it's rare that I feel even a little bit lonely. But I'm not going to waste my short existance moping around about my perceived short-comings...or entertaining misguided notions of how things could/should be different.

Not when I'm part of a species that has art, literature, music(really think about how on earth music is so pleasing to us), science, religion. You can release feel-good chemicals in your body simply by running around the block. You can have meaningful relationships with members of other species...sometimes when I'm walking my dogs it hits me just how improbable that is...it's by no means common throughout nature.

We are obsessed with the negative aspects of human life, and we have convinced ourselves that we are somehow clever to do so(this forum is rife with negativity). War, rape, murder...I'm not a fan, if truth be told. It's not going to sour my outlook on life. Even sex, something which is immensely enjoyable...we've turned it into a lifestyle obsession. We've trained ourselves to worry about size, performance, aesthetics...turning it into this grosely judgemental thing, it's almost as though we're trying to feel bad about ourselves. If we can ruin sex, we can ruin anything.

My point(sort of)is that human endeavour is ultimately silly, the zeitgeist is constantly shifting and we're forever confused. Our ideas on life are perpetually in flux, so don't get bogged down by cultural ideals or anyone who will tell you how to live...clearly they can't see past themselves. The natural world(which we ARE part of) is fascinating, living on the edge of society only puts you in a better position to appreciate that.

I'm alone, I'm without ambition, by many people's standards I'm a waster, and I love being alive.

Go figure.

I thought about this and it has taken while to answer it i have rewrite my answer over 5 times.

My look on any thought that is deep and by (deep meaning simply thought over 100 times and 100 times again.) We can think as much as we want, but in the end physical action must be taken to fix physical problems. However we must think about are situation, are self's and the people round us to find are bearings. I have had a lot of time on my hands as I have to wait for the new blank canvas to arrive, to start on the next stage of my life. So i do what is needed to be done and wait. With all this time I like to spend it trying to figure my self out as well as others, and the world in general. It is the realization of were i am at were i am mentally, and that others round me with different levels of self awareness, are still just as clueless as i am. They all have there own problems, often not tending to them. The other realizations is reality that is soon to meet me. I know were i am headed for now, and there is nothing interesting about it. I will simply be safiving, working a dead end job just to get by in a crappy place. Now do not take that as me feeling sorry for my self, i have meet other people that have it much worse. It is the fact I know were i am headed i know how i will feel when i get there, and i know how i will probably cope with it. It is the realization that i fully understand the to be reality and that i don't care, that I have no motivation to change it in any way. This is not something any one can help I know that, I am fully aware we control are self's, that only we can make the changes that need changing.

So given all that i was simply wondering if other people felt the same way.

driven by curiosity.

edit: topic has been talk to death should let it die now