can you say something nice about dragon age 2

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Sack of Cheese

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Two nice things okay?
I like how Hawke's personality shapes as you progress, and Isabela was too damn cute!!
 

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I'll make it simple.

It's a good game, but not a good Dragon Age game.

HOWEVER, emphasis on the former. Because it really is a good game. Although is hell bent in giving Hawke a love interest. Which is sort of weird. But hey, shiny spells and Blood magic! It's awesome.

Although it's kind of weird when you just waltz through the Templars HQ, even though you're a Blood Mage. XD
 

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If you think that DA2 was better than Dragon Age: Origins, you are a bad person and the best christmas gift you could give to the world is launching yourself to space without a way to bring your wretched existence back to this Earth.
 

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Ummm.... The marketing made it very clear what sort of game it was going to turn out to be? That was nice because it meant I never ended up buying it, though I did end up giving a friends' copy a whirl just to see how drastically they abandoned the whole "Baldur's Gate spiritual successor" thing.
 

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The walking animations were better, and Avaline had a sexy chin.

Also, the "I like big boats, I cannot lie" line got a decent snicker out of me.

They should've probably just called it Dragon Age: Fable, because that's what it felt like; A very good Fable game. Which isn't a compliment.
 

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I thought Dragon Age 2 was a pretty good game. I liked the characters in it. Merrill is cute in an awkward and shy way. Varric is an awesome character. While I do think Dragon Age: Origins is better I still think Dragon Age 2 is a good game.
 

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Characterisation of certain party members was amazing.
However I wasn't too fond of all the breaks from previous canon, I didn't even realise Isabella was supposed to be the same Pirate you meet in the first game until she mentions she had sex with the Warden.
 

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The first twenty minutes to half an hour are awesome. Then you realize you're running fetch quests so you can get enough money to get more money, and then it starts repeating dungeons and by that time I found that as much as I really wanted to like the game, I couldn't stand it. Put it down for a few weeks in the middle of act 2 and only finished it because I wanted to see if it got any better. Surprise surprise, it didn't.
 

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Maeshone said:
OniaPL said:
If you think that DA2 was better than Dragon Age: Origins, you are a bad person and the best christmas gift you could give to the world is launching yourself to space without a way to bring your wretched existence back to this Earth.
If you can't accept that some people may have different opinions than you, you are a bad person and the best christmas gift you could give to the world is launching yourself to space without a way to bring your wretched existence back to this Earth.

Personal attacks, yay!
Oh please, personal attack? I merely attempted to use overexaggeration for comical effect. Whether or not it succeeded is debatable, however you can't call it a "personal attack".

That aside, I DO think that DA2 is a horrible game. Mind you, I loved the first game. It had a lot of flaws, but I loved it. However, Dragon Age 2 ripped most of those things out. The combat system ripped out most strategy with things like enemies that fall from the sky, the plot was a horrible mess, the art design was so incredibly uninspired that it made me depressed, and absolutely nothing excited me about the game. Of course Bioware still managed to ace some characters such as Varric and Aveline (IMO), but it wasn't enough to make up for the rest of the game which was painful to play through, and which I did only because I adored Origins so much.

DRagon Age 2 threw a jab at a more "personal story", which fell flat. Had it been properly executed I think I might have loved it, but the game didn't succeed in making me care about the family and the artificial drama that revolved around them in some scenes. Hawke's whole "Rise to Power" didn't end up being anything more than a story about some dude happened to end up in Kirkwall and did some stuff that didn't really matter that much in the end.
 

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Well, it certainly wasnt; a bad game... infact it made a number of improvements over Dragon Age: Origins... like actually having a coherent and unique visual design, a much more organic skill tree, where skills and spells actually changed how you would approach a situation... mages were more useful, except as healers... they removed useless and redundant things, like the basically useless stealth elements, and the almost useless potion and poison crafting skills... the entire idea of the story was interesting in the way that it was structured... and of course all of the characters were unique, interesting and inherently well written, way more than a lot of the characters in origins, and each one went through a noticeable and interesting ark that developed them depending on how Hawke intervened, or didn;t... Except for that raging anime stereotype of an elf... and while your actions regarding the city were far from impactful, it really felt like you as the player, had a lot of control and influence with your companions... not to mention the combat was generally improved but more than a bit in love with itself... also improving the lore and atmosphere, expanding the world to feel like more than generic psuedo medeival fantasy land number 541... also it kept in the tradition of the series to keep the morality as grey as posible, allowing the player to judge their own actions and choose what they felt was right, which helped culminate in one of my favorite game endings in recent years...

So yeah, good things came from it...<.<
 

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Dragon Age 2 is the best game that came out in 2011. And considering Arkham City and Portal 2 came out in 2011, that's really saying something.
 

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OniaPL said:
Oh please, personal attack? I merely attempted to use overexaggeration for comical effect. Whether or not it succeeded is debatable, however you can't call it a "personal attack".

That aside, I DO think that DA2 is a horrible game. Mind you, I loved the first game. It had a lot of flaws, but I loved it. However, Dragon Age 2 ripped most of those things out. The combat system ripped out most strategy with things like enemies that fall from the sky, the plot was a horrible mess, the art design was so incredibly uninspired that it made me depressed, and absolutely nothing excited me about the game. Of course Bioware still managed to ace some characters such as Varric and Aveline (IMO), but it wasn't enough to make up for the rest of the game which was painful to play through, and which I did only because I adored Origins so much.

DRagon Age 2 threw a jab at a more "personal story", which fell flat. Had it been properly executed I think I might have loved it, but the game didn't succeed in making me care about the family and the artificial drama that revolved around them in some scenes. Hawke's whole "Rise to Power" didn't end up being anything more than a story about some dude happened to end up in Kirkwall and did some stuff that didn't really matter that much in the end.
Yeah, personal attack might have been a bit too much, I really shouldn't do too much internet-browsing when I'm tired. I'll edit the post, sorry :)

And I do recognize that you bring up valid complaints. The wave-based combat and the reuse of dungeons are my major gripes with the game. The rest of the game however, I think is superior to Origins. I liked the characters better, I liked the story better, (act 3 was a bit of a mess though) and I preferred the more actiony combat, which they didn't take far enough down the action route in my opinion. I'd really prefer just straight up Warrior Within style combat, mostly because the combat in Origins just felt really slow and clunky and that really put me off.
 

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Merrill is gorgeous.

/serious: it's an okay game in its own right if you like thoughtless, flashy hack-and-slash and don't mind the heavily recycled environments and enemies. "Competent" is the word I use to describe it; you'll be entertained, but not riveted.

It has a dozen failings, but its largest was that it really does nothing that DA:O didn't do better. It was because it was a tremendous missed opportunity for Bioware and a huge disappointment for fans of CRPGs, which is probably why it attracts such vitriol.

Personally I felt like its biggest misstep was with Hawke. He's just not a very interesting protagonist, especially if you're playing as a dude. I was only capable of completing the game to the end once I decided to play Hawke as a domineering lesbian templar with a secret turn-on for elven blood mages with adorable accents.

captcha: heart's content

d'aww, the captcha's met Merrill.
 

Meatspinner

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Dynamic adventure locations.

"Drop in out of thin air" feature that they implemented really added a much needed variety to the tactical combat

MMO type bossfights added a whole other layer of gameplay

Oh and the women felt more fuckable.

I whis I could say more about this great and wondrous game but for some reason I never managed to play it through. I must rectify that in the future
 

Padwolf

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I sure as hell can! I've sunk many hours into that game, I love it! Sure it has it's problems, but the characters are good, the story is good and the combat is wonderful! The story feels a bit more personal than Origins and your actions will affect your party. Hell if you throw out an item you got from a companion they will not be happy about it! The only thing I did not like were the repetitive dungeons, otherwise I don't have any issues. I had a lot of fun with the game and I do recommend it. The protagonist is really good too.

Just watch out for Anders. He will ruin your romance with Fenris!
 

bastardofmelbourne

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captainfluoxetine said:
2 however, judged entirely on its own merits and not going into the game expecting it to be origins, is a decent game!
This was really its problem...it was a sequel, so it was always going to be judged on DA:O's merits and not on its own.

It's really their own fault for calling it Dragon Age II.
 

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While it sucked overall for quality and story (and as an RPG), it was still a fun action fantasy game. The combat was more fluid and entertaining than DA1, for instance, and it has good, albeit artificial, length.

I preferred it to DA1.
 

Zhukov

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Aveline and Varric are both really cool characters.

Isabella and Merrill are funny and entertaining.

The combat was pretty fun, although it outstayed its welcome, much like in the first game.