canada is inhabited by friendly beer drinkers who love to watch, but aren't actually amazingly good at, hockey. as far as the appearance it pretty much looks like montana.
neoman10 said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_trooperGrigori361 said:Now look down and compare the years Mr bright shining star, we have 1920 for the use of the "storm trooper" previous to ww2, and the reference to Canadians as such during ww1, years earlier.neoman10 said:now go up a few posts and look at the Wikipedia page some fine soul postedGrigori361 said:neoman10 said:That is not where the Stormtroopers came from. The Stormtroopers are these guys: http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=3078Grigori361 said:Actually well played a fairly large part in both World Wars, you know the "storm troopers" from star wars? The Germans made that term up to refer to us because they considered the the biggest bad asses in the allied army for both wars.Nimbus said:Like most awesome countries, you've never really been involved in world wars?
Other examples: Switzerland, Ireland.
Of course the US has us outnumbered and outgunned by almost 100 to 1, so it's not like we can fight as much as a nation![]()
and anyways, why would the Canadians be on the Dark side?
"The term "storm trooper" was first used by the Germans in the First World War to describe the Canadian troops that they had to fight against. Canadian troops were most feared by the Germans during the First World War, and the German army always prepared for the worst when an attack was spearheaded by the Canadian army.
The term was then used again by Hitler before the Second World War for his army of soldiers when first forming the National Socialist Party. They were his elite troops, and when his infamous Beer Hall Putsch failed, and some of his storm troopers were killed by police, he forced the German people to honour them and salute every time they walked by a memorial plaque dedicated to them.
The term was used a third time by George Lucas in Star Wars as a name for the white-armour-clad soldiers of the evil Empire. Much like the National Socialist storm troopers, they were trained to show no fear or emotion. "
I don't really have the time to get into a long drawn out debate so I'll just use this quote from here
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_stormtrooper
Just in case you don't.
When did ww1 end ?
1918
You do that math![]()
<quote=Wikipedia>Stormtroopers (in German Stoßtruppen, "shock troops") were specialist soldiers of the German Army in World War I. In the last years of the war, Stoßtruppen were trained to fight with "infiltration tactics", part of the Germans' new method of attack on enemy trenches. Men trained in these methods were known in Germany as Sturmmann (literally "assault man" but usually translated as Stormtrooper), formed into companies of Sturmtruppen ("assault troops", more often and less exactly Storm Troops). The infiltration tactics of the stormtroopers are still in use today, in one form or another. Other armies have also used the term "assault troops", "shock troops" or fireteams for specialist soldiers who perform the infiltration tasks of stormtroopers.
No, I just needed some stimulation on a boring summer holiday, and this has served its purpose. Thank youGrigori361 said:neoman10 said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_trooperGrigori361 said:Now look down and compare the years Mr bright shining star, we have 1920 for the use of the "storm trooper" previous to ww2, and the reference to Canadians as such during ww1, years earlier.neoman10 said:now go up a few posts and look at the Wikipedia page some fine soul postedGrigori361 said:neoman10 said:That is not where the Stormtroopers came from. The Stormtroopers are these guys: http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=3078Grigori361 said:Actually well played a fairly large part in both World Wars, you know the "storm troopers" from star wars? The Germans made that term up to refer to us because they considered the the biggest bad asses in the allied army for both wars.Nimbus said:Like most awesome countries, you've never really been involved in world wars?
Other examples: Switzerland, Ireland.
Of course the US has us outnumbered and outgunned by almost 100 to 1, so it's not like we can fight as much as a nation![]()
and anyways, why would the Canadians be on the Dark side?
"The term "storm trooper" was first used by the Germans in the First World War to describe the Canadian troops that they had to fight against. Canadian troops were most feared by the Germans during the First World War, and the German army always prepared for the worst when an attack was spearheaded by the Canadian army.
The term was then used again by Hitler before the Second World War for his army of soldiers when first forming the National Socialist Party. They were his elite troops, and when his infamous Beer Hall Putsch failed, and some of his storm troopers were killed by police, he forced the German people to honour them and salute every time they walked by a memorial plaque dedicated to them.
The term was used a third time by George Lucas in Star Wars as a name for the white-armour-clad soldiers of the evil Empire. Much like the National Socialist storm troopers, they were trained to show no fear or emotion. "
I don't really have the time to get into a long drawn out debate so I'll just use this quote from here
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_stormtrooper
Just in case you don't.
When did ww1 end ?
1918
You do that math![]()
<quote=Wikipedia>Stormtroopers (in German Stoßtruppen, "shock troops") were specialist soldiers of the German Army in World War I. In the last years of the war, Stoßtruppen were trained to fight with "infiltration tactics", part of the Germans' new method of attack on enemy trenches. Men trained in these methods were known in Germany as Sturmmann (literally "assault man" but usually translated as Stormtrooper), formed into companies of Sturmtruppen ("assault troops", more often and less exactly Storm Troops). The infiltration tactics of the stormtroopers are still in use today, in one form or another. Other armies have also used the term "assault troops", "shock troops" or fireteams for specialist soldiers who perform the infiltration tasks of stormtroopers.man you ARE a stickler for detail aren't you?
If you really want to get hung up on the mistranslation, and use it as an excuse to ignore everything else, allow me to mention that your "SturmAbteilung" actually means storm battalion NOT Storm Trooper, I figured that since we are equally guilty of using misconceptions that lead to the cultural reference of the "stormtrooper" as a military unit during the first and second world war I assumed you wouldn't bother bringing that up.
(Sufficed to say that if you really want to get hung up on that it makes BOTH our points completely irrelevant.)
Obviously I was mistaken, or am I missing some Grand intellectual argument here entirely?
neoman10 said:No, I just needed some stimulation on a boring summer holiday, and this has served its purpose. Thank youGrigori361 said:neoman10 said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_trooperGrigori361 said:Now look down and compare the years Mr bright shining star, we have 1920 for the use of the "storm trooper" previous to ww2, and the reference to Canadians as such during ww1, years earlier.neoman10 said:now go up a few posts and look at the Wikipedia page some fine soul postedGrigori361 said:Haha, damn, well that Does sort of go without saying, I was just hoping for bothneoman10 said:That is not where the Stormtroopers came from. The Stormtroopers are these guys: http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=3078Grigori361 said:Actually well played a fairly large part in both World Wars, you know the "storm troopers" from star wars? The Germans made that term up to refer to us because they considered the the biggest bad asses in the allied army for both wars.Nimbus said:Like most awesome countries, you've never really been involved in world wars?
Other examples: Switzerland, Ireland.
Of course the US has us outnumbered and outgunned by almost 100 to 1, so it's not like we can fight as much as a nation![]()
and anyways, why would the Canadians be on the Dark side?
"The term "storm trooper" was first used by the Germans in the First World War to describe the Canadian troops that they had to fight against. Canadian troops were most feared by the Germans during the First World War, and the German army always prepared for the worst when an attack was spearheaded by the Canadian army.
The term was then used again by Hitler before the Second World War for his army of soldiers when first forming the National Socialist Party. They were his elite troops, and when his infamous Beer Hall Putsch failed, and some of his storm troopers were killed by police, he forced the German people to honour them and salute every time they walked by a memorial plaque dedicated to them.
The term was used a third time by George Lucas in Star Wars as a name for the white-armour-clad soldiers of the evil Empire. Much like the National Socialist storm troopers, they were trained to show no fear or emotion. "
I don't really have the time to get into a long drawn out debate so I'll just use this quote from here
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_stormtrooper
Just in case you don't.
When did ww1 end ?
1918
You do that math![]()
<quote=Wikipedia>Stormtroopers (in German Stoßtruppen, "shock troops") were specialist soldiers of the German Army in World War I. In the last years of the war, Stoßtruppen were trained to fight with "infiltration tactics", part of the Germans' new method of attack on enemy trenches. Men trained in these methods were known in Germany as Sturmmann (literally "assault man" but usually translated as Stormtrooper), formed into companies of Sturmtruppen ("assault troops", more often and less exactly Storm Troops). The infiltration tactics of the stormtroopers are still in use today, in one form or another. Other armies have also used the term "assault troops", "shock troops" or fireteams for specialist soldiers who perform the infiltration tasks of stormtroopers.man you ARE a stickler for detail aren't you?
If you really want to get hung up on the mistranslation, and use it as an excuse to ignore everything else, allow me to mention that your "SturmAbteilung" actually means storm battalion NOT Storm Trooper, I figured that since we are equally guilty of using misconceptions that lead to the cultural reference of the "stormtrooper" as a military unit during the first and second world war I assumed you wouldn't bother bringing that up.
(Sufficed to say that if you really want to get hung up on that it makes BOTH our points completely irrelevant.)
Obviously I was mistaken, or am I missing some Grand intellectual argument here entirely?