Canadian ISP Admits to Throwing Brakes on World of Warcraft

slipknot4

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P2P, as in peer to peer?

Like the... let's see. Background downloader that downloads from a thousand mirrors at the same time, most of them being other players...
 

mew4ever23

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The funny thing is that she actually is using P2P, and doesn't even know it. Most people don't. I didn't until that "Ethics of torrenting" discussion came up a while back.
 

bmart008

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If you go for the smaller ISPs they have unlimited date plans, like one in my city, Acanac, they have unlimited monthly for 24 dollars a month, at twice the speed of Rogers. I HATE rogers.

If it was my say I would nationalize the internet companies.
 

Twilight_guy

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So it turns out that there programmers suck. That's too bad but I wondering why its taking so long to come up with a solution?
 

Crigler

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I'm starting to get a little tired of hearing about our ISPs trying crap like this, especially within the CRTC.
 

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slipknot4 said:
P2P, as in peer to peer?

Like the... let's see. Background downloader that downloads from a thousand mirrors at the same time, most of them being other players...
mew4ever23 said:
The funny thing is that she actually is using P2P, and doesn't even know it.
I see you didn't read my comment a page or two back :) It's okay I'll say it again.

TM being one of the Tech Support regulars is well aware that patches can be downloaded using a P2P system. She helps people out every single day with a wide range of issues and has methods of directly contacting several tech support employees about relevant issues.

P2P is only used when there is a new patch to push out. These do not come along every day - more like every few months or so. And they are not always very large - the last big one we got was about 150 mb ish.

Game data is transferred over TCP port 3724. The new streaming data feature uses TCP port 80 and streams from one of Blizzard's Akamai web servers.
 

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Broadband in Canada is absolutely pathetic. By far and away the worst provider however is Bell.
 

slipknot4

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bluspacecow said:
P2P is only used when there is a new patch to push out. These do not come along every day - more like every few months or so. And they are not always very large - the last big one we got was about 150 mb ish.
NOt that I followed along on all that tech stuff but...
I'm rather sure that all patches, even the hotfixes are distributed p2p.
 

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ReiverCorrupter said:
They'll also put you in prison for denying the holocaust, saying anything racist or various other thought crimes.
No, it's a crime to advocate violence, not just to say racist stuff. I was at Calgary's anti-racist rally last month, and there were a few guys from White European Brotherhood saying things that were just short of getting them arrested for advocating violence.

You may recall that Ann Coulter and the Westboro Baptist Church were warned about Canadian hate speech laws. They'd be allowed to peacefully express their political or religious views, but not allowed to say things like:

Ann Coulter said:
We should invade their (Muslims) countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
Westboro Baptist Church said:
Thank God for dead faggots.
These are the sorts of views we censor in Canada. The US forbids advocating violence against individuals, but Canada forbids advocating violence against groups.

OT: My internet service in Canada is pretty bad compared to the urban US, but this is much worse than what I'd tolerate. Providers in Canada have such a near-monopoly that they screw customers, over and over. It's not nearly as bad as Australian internet access, but could be a lot better. Do any good American ISPs want to bring their invisible hands up north and make some money improving Canadian connections?
 

ReiverCorrupter

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Chamale said:
ReiverCorrupter said:
They'll also put you in prison for denying the holocaust, saying anything racist or various other thought crimes.
No, it's a crime to advocate violence, not just to say racist stuff. I was at Calgary's anti-racist rally last month, and there were a few guys from White European Brotherhood saying things that were just short of getting them arrested for advocating violence.

You may recall that Ann Coulter and the Westboro Baptist Church were warned about Canadian hate speech laws. They'd be allowed to peacefully express their political or religious views, but not allowed to say things like:

Ann Coulter said:
We should invade their (Muslims) countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
Westboro Baptist Church said:
Thank God for dead faggots.
These are the sorts of views we censor in Canada. The US forbids advocating violence against individuals, but Canada forbids advocating violence against groups.

OT: My internet service in Canada is pretty bad compared to the urban US, but this is much worse than what I'd tolerate. Providers in Canada have such a near-monopoly that they screw customers, over and over. It's not nearly as bad as Australian internet access, but could be a lot better. Do any good American ISPs want to bring their invisible hands up north and make some money improving Canadian connections?
That still seems like a bit much to me. I'd draw the line at actually planning to do those things. Then you'd have a conspiracy charge. 'Advocating' is still so general that it should count as opinion. Granted the people who do advocate these things should be put on some watch-lists, but that's it. What if someone said something to the effect of "we shouldn't put up with the government doing this [ ]"? Aren't they advocating treason? Treason is the highest offense under the law, so shouldn't they be arrested too?

Also, I believe denying the holocaust, or even saying that the statistics were inflated is illegal in Germany, or so I've heard. So my apologies to Canadians for confusing them with Germans. (Also my apologies to Germans if it isn't true.)
 

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LostNumber said:
Hmm, had no idea this was happening. I'm on Shaw, but I know plenty of people that play WoW (some of which I'm sure use Rogers) and have never heard any complaints from them. Good of them to own up to it and fix the problem, though.
They aren't. What they're doing is waiting six months until Canadians can go outside so they can do nothing to the network.
 

Sodoff

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Oh Canada...

Heh.

On a more serious note: WTF Get your grabby hands of the internetz!

( the Evul Company of course, not Canada. I love Canada!)