Leon Royce said:
It's ironic that shamanic healers have been able to remove cancer from people using psychedelic plants like Ayahuasca, psylociben mushrooms etc... for millennia, and yet here we are, still trying to find a magic synthetic molecule that we can pop and forget.
So much needless complexity, all because of this myth we have that no culture or civilization before the late 1800's anywhere knew anything about the body and medicine, ever...
It is actually we who know little about the body, specifically the link between emotion, trauma, consciousness and the physical manifestation of illness.
The link between emotion, trauma, and illness is actually somewhat well understood. No idea why you brought a word like consciousness into there but I'll endeavor to explain.
It's all to do with stress actually, when we are put under certain high intensity situations our bodies produce specific chemicals that are often called "stress hormones", these are Adrenaline, Cortisol, and Norepinephrine. These tie into the Fight or Flight response, boosting our body temporarily to cope with situations such as a lion attack or having to swerve on a road to avoid a drunk driver.
Adrenaline works by boosting heart rate and has other effects, however it is mostly short lived, we get surges of it that are then metabolised back into the body.
Norepinephrine on the other hand causes a change in blood flow, pulling blood away from areas like the skin to the brain and muscles to make you more alert, once again making you ready to fight or run from the lion. Norepinephrine is somewhat slower at being user up by the body however, and it can take hours to days to return to a regular resting state after a stressful incident.
Finally, Cortisol is different, it doesn't affect the blood flow like the previous hormones, it instead changes your blood's makeup, boosting the amount of sugars in the blood for example.
The issue is mostly down to Cortisol when it comes to long term stress. If we are subjected to long term periods of stress Cortisol builds up in our systems and gives rise to problems like a suppressed immune system (leading to illness), acne, obesity, and mental issues such as anxiety, depression, it even interferes with learning and memory.
Now, we also know that highly intense emotional situations cause stress, and trauma (mental) causes these releases as well, physical trauma on the other hand causes the release of other chemicals into the body to try and deal with it, overabundance of these is one factor that contributes to the phenomenon known as 'shock'.
Sooo. Yeah, emotions and trauma can cause stress, stress then contributes towards illness through suppressed immune systems and can affect our brains adversely.
rcs619 said:
inu-kun said:
If I get this correctly, that pharmatuical companies will kill the idea since it will cut their profits, maybe with other diseases that could be true, but cancer?
Pretty much everybody will get cancer if they live long enough, so any company will try to find some matter of cure just for its execs health, even if it might cut their profits (and even then, if a different company DOES find a cure they are double fucked, with no patent or customers).
That's the thing. Cancer isn't a virus or bacteria, we can't make it extinct. It is a natural result of the processes that drive our cells. If you have a cure for cancer, you'll always have a market because even if we make most other diseases extinct, cancer is always going to be something we'll have to deal with.
I forgot to make that point so thanks, there's a million causes for replication errors in our cells from replication errors to the low level background radiation that is emitted from the rocks, sky, and everything else, to viruses infecting cells with their RNA, to chemicals that directly damage our cell's DNA. Cancer is always going to be around in one form or another simply because our bodies are imperfect and when a cell develops a glitch in cell replication those imperfections can cause cancer.
So yeah, to mirror your point, we're never going to eradicate cancer just because of its nature, the best we can do is learn to treat it effectively and detect it in its early stages before it metastasizes and spreads round the body.
vallorn said:
Love everything you just said. Keep it up
Like I said in my other posts, the *one* person they found (in this case people from the University of British-Columbia) *might* have been cured by Hoxsey's methods (this person had some sort of skin cancer apparently), out of 70 other Canadian citizens who had been treated in his clinics, wound up being more disfigured by his treatment than they would have been if they'd have just gone with a more typical surgical treatment.
Also the FDA interviewed like 400 people who claimed to be cured by his method, and a lot of them never even had cancer to begin with. They were completely and totally misdiagnosed.
Thank you, I shall!
And yeah, judging by the ingredients in his topical cream, disfigurement of the affected region makes a lot of sense, deep scaring would likely take place as well as the effects of applying elements like arsenic to a region of the body that has extremely high blood flow through it (like a tumor).