I think this is Ubisoft bad. Seriously, my internet has gone out during hours of game time, and I would be incredibly pissed if my game suddenly told me to screw off because my internet wasn't hooked up.
Capcom Continues Online DRM Scheme for Offline PSN Titles
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that sounds beautifull, untill you realize that you are talking to the guys that acutally BUY the game and are still getting "F&%ed" by intrussive and not well thought DRM´sSonic Doctor said:
its a privilege! i get it!! but i still payed for that priviledge, and after paying for something it is my RIGHT to go and do whatever i want with the product, i grant you that we shall all stand behind the developers and encourage them instead of acting like jerks and downloading every game just out of spite, but its kind of hard to stand behind someone who is behind you poking you in the A$$
For those who just read the headline, the DRM doesn't shut the game down if you get cut off from the internet, you just need to be logged on when you start the game.
This measure is not going to do anything about people posting torrents and downloading "free" copies of the game. DRM never does, anyway. What it will prevent is people sharing their games.
Whenever you buy something from PSN you are allowed to download the game on 5 systems connected to your PSN account, so if your PS3 breaks down you don't lose all your PSN games. What people are doing is letting their friends "borrow" their PSN account and download all the games for free. The DRM is checking to make sure the owner account is logged in when the game starts, and preventing startup if it isn't.
Basically, if you buy a copy and are logged into your PSN account when you start the game you should have no problems. If you're the friend of someone who bought a copy, then you'll either have to get your friend's PSN account name and password or purchase a copy.
This measure is not going to do anything about people posting torrents and downloading "free" copies of the game. DRM never does, anyway. What it will prevent is people sharing their games.
Whenever you buy something from PSN you are allowed to download the game on 5 systems connected to your PSN account, so if your PS3 breaks down you don't lose all your PSN games. What people are doing is letting their friends "borrow" their PSN account and download all the games for free. The DRM is checking to make sure the owner account is logged in when the game starts, and preventing startup if it isn't.
Basically, if you buy a copy and are logged into your PSN account when you start the game you should have no problems. If you're the friend of someone who bought a copy, then you'll either have to get your friend's PSN account name and password or purchase a copy.
Eugh. It was only a matter of time before ridiculous DRM crept over into the console realm. I hope it doesn't stick around for long.
Dunno what the problem is; sounds a bit like what all XBL downloaded content does when played on a "foreign" console.
To be clear; on the first console you download anything to, offline play is allowed. If you then go and re-download that content on a different console, you must be online at all times to pay that content on the second console. If you drop off, even for a second, access to that content is immediately shut off.
This could be a big issue if you have more than one console in the house and you like to play on both of them.
To be clear; on the first console you download anything to, offline play is allowed. If you then go and re-download that content on a different console, you must be online at all times to pay that content on the second console. If you drop off, even for a second, access to that content is immediately shut off.
This could be a big issue if you have more than one console in the house and you like to play on both of them.
Thanks a lot Jack Tretton. Yes, I blame him: He's the one who opened his mouth in 2006 and said "people can share on PSN and we want them too" like a complete fucking idiot. And no matter how many parts of the PSN ToS you point out to people that prove you are not allowed to share your games, people still go "but Jack Tretton said I could so imma keep doing it durpadurp!"
Although if I was Capcom, I would just tell PSN to fuck off until Sony made Jacky-boy come out and admit "I was an idiot when I said that before, you may not share your games. Sorry I misled you all with my idiotic ramblings." Or Sony could just start dropping more banhammers on sharers (how about a specific "gameshare" selection when reporting people, Sony?) so word gets around that way. I can understand why Capcom would do this kind of DRM to keep the game on the platform, but still, not cool Capcom.
Although if I was Capcom, I would just tell PSN to fuck off until Sony made Jacky-boy come out and admit "I was an idiot when I said that before, you may not share your games. Sorry I misled you all with my idiotic ramblings." Or Sony could just start dropping more banhammers on sharers (how about a specific "gameshare" selection when reporting people, Sony?) so word gets around that way. I can understand why Capcom would do this kind of DRM to keep the game on the platform, but still, not cool Capcom.
I'm quite sure you only need to sign in to your GamerTag, even if you don't have internet at the time to connect to Xbox Live, to play those games on a different console. And on the first console, play is allowed for everyone. On other consoles, it's just your gamertag that can play. I'm quite certain you need to check your facts again because everything you said about how 360 games work sounds very wrong.UnnDunn said:
Well, not whatever you want. What you want within the boundaries of any agreements you have to sign when using said product as well as the normal consumer boundaries. Which also includes the point that you are not allowed to copy the product.HentMas said:
My point was that one can not truly support the games industry against piracy, if one turns around and blasts them for the actions they take to prevent and catch pirates.
One must learn to just accept what the games industry is doing with DRM, until something is found to stop piracy.
Sigh, I would of bought this. However seeing as to play the game I'd need to connect my PS3 to the internet everytime, it means this is currently a purchase that would be wasted as right now I live in situation where I have to use someone elses internet whenever I want to connect my PS3 for updates or to make a purchase, which is fine every once in a while but... Bleh I can kinda see why, but its not the best choice on their part :/
Ever hear the term 'Fly in Fly out' [FiFo]?Daemascus said:
Many Australian mine workers (and contractors like myself) frequently travel to remote places with no internet access (9 days out of 14). Some sites I travel to require over 10 hours on planes etc.
Many workers take consoles/laptops to game (as the 'dongas' all have TVs) but have no access to the internet.
In Australia all games that require a intenet connection to play have to have a big label declaring it (which makes it easy to avoid them).
I usually only have about 2 hours of gaming time a night due to work etc. Some PSN updates I leave for weeks on end because I don't want half of my time taken up installing an update. PSN? It doesn't let you connect until you update. So while I may buy a game and download it in the background while playing another, I'd have to sacrifice about half of my gaming night just to connect to PSN, especially with some larger updates.