CES Booth Babes: Look But Don't Touch

Labyrinth

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paragon1 said:
Is it okay for ANYONE to touch someone else without their permission? No.
Do these women deserve to be respected just like every other human being? Yes.
Should they have seen these situations coming when they took this job? Yes (at least for the ones hired through an agency)?
Sadly, unless they start getting some intimidating security nearby, then I'm afraid there's not much anyone else can do. They'll just have to put up with it or get a different job (or invest in some pepper spray/taser).
The Agency probably says something like "You're going to this convention today, in this outfit, to advertise this product." I'm not sure how much choice the models themselves have in the matter. Either way I can't say I envy them the job.

Just because we have low expectations of human behaviour does not make it okay for that behaviour to be perpetuated. It's all very easy to say "they should see it coming" but how far a step is that from the rampant victim-blaming culture we have in any situation of sexual harassment or assault?

So here's the deal. We hold the adults who approach these booths responsible for their actions. If they behave in a shitty manner they should be reprimanded for that because they're making the choice to do so. People like the guy who was holding her hand, for example. The ones who try to cop a feel. These are unlikely to be the majority but they shouldn't be "part of the job." It goes back to the idea of "models are people too." Just because they're there to look pretty and sell a product does not give other people any kind of right to harass them.

I also think it's a poor reflection on social expectations of men that we allow them to be unable to 'control their lusts' and keep their hands to themselves.
 

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God said:
From the sounds of it, they need to hire a bouncer for each stand as well.
Yeah, in strip clubs if you get all touchy feely a 7 foot mountain of muscle shows you the door, several blocks down.

Maybe the offenders should be banned from events like this.
 

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I have seen the 16 year old girls i work with get worse than this.One guy(prolly around 60 or so)told a young girl he would pay her 2000 dollors for oral sex.She was wearing a jesus loves me wristband at the time too.
 

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You took a job as eye candy at a video game convention! A VIDEO GAME CONVENTION! A bit stereotyped comment i made, but still.... :p
Models are for looks not for your little toys for amusement.
 

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Greg Tito said:
A few of the booth babes at this year's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas speak out about how they're treated by some men.
Sexual harrassment is pretty common and you don't have to be a booth babe to experience it. These girls aren't experiencing anything very different to things that can happen in any workplace, to any woman.

Naturally given the nature of the job certain people are going to stare and be fascinated and one would also expect occasional comments. To use sex to sell something and then expect no-one to comment on your sexuality is frankly unrealistic. Obviously things like unsolicited groping is crossing a line. If the guys are asking about touching their breasts instead of just going up and doing it, that's perhaps different but if she says no and he keeps asking, then that's not on. As for the guy that tried to ask the booth babe out on a date... hell, why not. You've got to be in it to win it, I'd do the same if I met one and liked her enough (hasn't happened yet though). However if she declines and he keeps pestering, that, once again, is crossing a line. If I met a booth babe I'd just say hi and maybe "hey you look great" if she indeed does, maybe have a chat to her if I felt like it, maybe even ask her out if we really hit it off but only if I felt genuine chemistry was there and she wasn't just chatting to me out of sheer professional obligation to be nice to me. There is definitely a line between courteous appreciation and harrassment and if you're not a dickhead it's pretty easy to stay on the correct side of that line.
 

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Labyrinth said:
paragon1 said:
Is it okay for ANYONE to touch someone else without their permission? No.
Do these women deserve to be respected just like every other human being? Yes.
Should they have seen these situations coming when they took this job? Yes (at least for the ones hired through an agency)?
Sadly, unless they start getting some intimidating security nearby, then I'm afraid there's not much anyone else can do. They'll just have to put up with it or get a different job (or invest in some pepper spray/taser).
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Are you just making a general point by using my statement as an example or are you quoting me because I said something in particular to piss you off?
 

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Mercanary57 said:
AAAAAaaaaaaaand this is why people are stupid.
Oh booth babes/strippers, now I know why you feel dead inside!
E3 is always better when the booth babe is crying.
Bwahahahaha awesome. Hooray for boobies!!!

What do you expect? Your job is to lure people with your body? Then get upset when they try? Sure touching is one thing but flirting or hitting on them? If they aren't then the organizers need to cough up for some hotties.
 

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Is this article suggesting that if any attractive girl walks out in public wearing suggestive clothing that they are more likely to be approached by creeps? I thought this sort of behavior was limited to the patrons who frequent Hooters restaurants. Or maybe Hooters patrons go to other places in the world. Interesting.

Anyway, the answer to the problem is very simple. When you hire women to solely attract men to your booth in a sexually stimulating manner, you need bouncers. Nothing too elaborate; just an imposing guy who can tap an idiot on the shoulder and tell him to leave.
 

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Ocelot GT said:
The_dududf said:
Ocelot GT said:
some ppl are just pervs and do that crap all the time. like on....the internets!

u know who u are.... and u r unpleasant!
You have to be kidding...

How hard is it to type "you" or "people". Come on! It only negatively effects you, and if you feel that you NEED the extra 4 seconds of life badly (since you are taking shortcuts) then why are you spending them commenting!

Heesh.
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Welcome to

THE INTERNET :D

Now please feel free to forward all complaints to the dev team of L4D, L4D2, the makers of valentine candy hearts, any and all advertising and marketing agencies, and the bureau of chat protocols.

Why did you type 4 instead of four? save a few seconds?

You also realise lol is an abbreviation.

How about... you get over yourself! :D



Nazi
If you notice everyone else can control themselves in here and not act like a child, they shouldn't have to expect it from you just because you're around booth babe posts. If you continue to act this way be prepared to be leave the video game convention thread.
 

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I never got the purpose of a both babe. Why do there have to be women around the product? Is it not that good? Cause I don't remember a women walking out on a stage with an iPod stuck in her cleavage.
 

Labyrinth

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paragon1 said:
Are you just making a general point by using my statement as an example or are you quoting me because I said something in particular to piss you off?
I was using it as something I agreed with, mostly.
 

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EspirituExterminatus said:
God what's next? Porn starlets complaining about being made to feel like nothing more than sex toys?
Way ahead of you on that department, particularly with Sasha Gray of all porn stars.
 

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Labyrinth said:
paragon1 said:
Is it okay for ANYONE to touch someone else without their permission? No.
Do these women deserve to be respected just like every other human being? Yes.
Should they have seen these situations coming when they took this job? Yes (at least for the ones hired through an agency)?
Sadly, unless they start getting some intimidating security nearby, then I'm afraid there's not much anyone else can do. They'll just have to put up with it or get a different job (or invest in some pepper spray/taser).
The Agency probably says something like "You're going to this convention today, in this outfit, to advertise this product." I'm not sure how much choice the models themselves have in the matter. Either way I can't say I envy them the job.

Just because we have low expectations of human behaviour does not make it okay for that behaviour to be perpetuated. It's all very easy to say "they should see it coming" but how far a step is that from the rampant victim-blaming culture we have in any situation of sexual harassment or assault?

So here's the deal. We hold the adults who approach these booths responsible for their actions. If they behave in a shitty manner they should be reprimanded for that because they're making the choice to do so. People like the guy who was holding her hand, for example. The ones who try to cop a feel. These are unlikely to be the majority but they shouldn't be "part of the job." It goes back to the idea of "models are people too." Just because they're there to look pretty and sell a product does not give other people any kind of right to harass them.

I also think it's a poor reflection on social expectations of men that we allow them to be unable to 'control their lusts' and keep their hands to themselves.
If all men were able to control their lusts easily, booth babes wouldn't be of additional value to a stand.