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Nieroshai

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Tidus from FFX
Or pretty much all FF heroes XD outside of maybe Zidane.
Did you even play 1-6? You know the series started before 7 right?
And Cecil WASN'T willing to give Golbez one of the four very keys to ruling the world to rescue his girlfriend? Sure it sounds romantic, but come on, did he really think the enemy would just let him walk away after gaining yet another piece of ultimate power? I don't see any plans to the effect of "how do we get her back and keep the crystal?" going on, just "You wanna trade? Okay!" I confess that's the part of the game I'm at so I haven't seen the conclusion, but Cecil gives every indication he's willing to make the trade knowing what the crystals do! I don't hate the game because of it, I'm just rolling my eyes at Cecil.

OT: it's really hard for me to really answer this question since I really can't find irredeemable characteristics in game characters in games I actually play. But I'd have to say... Silver the Hedgehog. Not only is he a blandly unemmbellished ripoff of DBZ's Trunks, he also had the buggiest gameplay and is the most forgettable of the Sonic cast. That's right, I think of Big the Cat as a more interesting character.

EDIT: I DO understand that in FF4 they were trying to go for the idea that Cecil would do anything to save Rosa, and also realize it was the offer of trade that revealed the tower's location, but no conspiring amongst the party members of trying to defeat Golbez and leave with the crystal? No indication of trying to achieve victory in any way? No struggling with his role as a paladin not to hand the world into his enemy's hands? I just feel that FF6 really shows better the humanity of characters and allowed them to show genuine heroism because of it. The point in the world of ruin where Terra leaves the orphans she promised to protect in order to take the fight to Kefka and end the danger is the shining example.
 

Cridhe

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Nieroshai said:
Cridhe said:
Mallefunction said:
Tidus from FFX
Or pretty much all FF heroes XD outside of maybe Zidane.
Did you even play 1-6? You know the series started before 7 right?
And Cecil WASN'T willing to give Golbez one of the four very keys to ruling the world to rescue his girlfriend? Sure it sounds romantic, but come on, did he really think the enemy would just let him walk away after gaining yet another piece of ultimate power? I don't see any plans to the effect of "how do we get her back and keep the crystal?" going on, just "You wanna trade? Okay!" I confess that's the part of the game I'm at so I haven't seen the conclusion, but Cecil gives every indication he's willing to make the trade knowing what the crystals do! I don't hate the game because of it, I'm just rolling my eyes at Cecil.

OT: it's really hard for me to really answer this question since I really can't find irredeemable characteristics in game characters in games I actually play. But I'd have to say... Silver the Hedgehog. Not only is he a blandly unemmbellished ripoff of DBZ's Trunks, he also had the buggiest gameplay and is the most forgettable of the Sonic cast. That's right, I think of Big the Cat as a more interesting character.
Yeah 4 wasn't terribly complex story-wise but still far more likeable than the 3D gen versions. Cecil was a badass, so he had no reservations about it. Of course he was just gonna kick moon ass later. :p

How about 6? You know, the pinnacle of the FF series?
 

Nieroshai

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Cridhe said:
Nieroshai said:
Cridhe said:
Mallefunction said:
Tidus from FFX
Or pretty much all FF heroes XD outside of maybe Zidane.
Did you even play 1-6? You know the series started before 7 right?
And Cecil WASN'T willing to give Golbez one of the four very keys to ruling the world to rescue his girlfriend? Sure it sounds romantic, but come on, did he really think the enemy would just let him walk away after gaining yet another piece of ultimate power? I don't see any plans to the effect of "how do we get her back and keep the crystal?" going on, just "You wanna trade? Okay!" I confess that's the part of the game I'm at so I haven't seen the conclusion, but Cecil gives every indication he's willing to make the trade knowing what the crystals do! I don't hate the game because of it, I'm just rolling my eyes at Cecil.

OT: it's really hard for me to really answer this question since I really can't find irredeemable characteristics in game characters in games I actually play. But I'd have to say... Silver the Hedgehog. Not only is he a blandly unemmbellished ripoff of DBZ's Trunks, he also had the buggiest gameplay and is the most forgettable of the Sonic cast. That's right, I think of Big the Cat as a more interesting character.
Yeah 4 wasn't terribly complex story-wise but still far more likeable than the 3D gen versions. Cecil was a badass, so he had no reservations about it. Of course he was just gonna kick moon ass later. :p

How about 6? You know, the pinnacle of the FF series?
Read the edit I made to my reply and all will be explained. There were annoyances, but characters didn't just randomly pull flaws out of their asses mid-game. Sure characters can be flawed, but Tellah and Edward were the only characters who remotely had believable reasons to act as flawed as they did. Also, if you ask WHY you will get a wall of text, be warned, but I actually like Cloud and the ff7 compilation at large.
 

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Assuming you mean characters that make you feel bad/embarrassed about being identified as a gamer, I'd say characters like Duke Nukem and the girls that populate DoA are fairly good examples.

EDIT: I'm interested by all the hatred of Nathan Drake - he's never seemed so offensive to me; he's basically every self-deprecating modern American action hero all rolled into one, and no-one ever seems to complain about them. What about the huge tide of 'realistic' (space)marines spewing macho one-liners? At least Drake seems like he has a personality, even if it is a smartass one. Also, consider James Bond - he's the epitome of action heroes who make 'witty' quips and get away with the impossible and are totally perfect (and I mean the original movie James bond, not the most recent iterations) - *and* he's openly chauvinistic and a womaniser...and yet everyone thinks he's awesome. Why?

Note: I also like James Bond, and I can see the annoyacnes of Drake's *incessant* glibness, but really I don't see how Drake is worthy of *so* much ire?

<-- Genuinely curious
 

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Jeeze, all this hate for Tidus...and we all know he's not the disgrace. Don't get me wrong, HE'S BAD but...he is not a disgrace, Oh NO NO NO. The real disgrace? THIS GUY, VAAN:



No reason for tagging along, no bearing on the plot (The last two were something Tidus ATLEAST had), no real motivation, annoying as shit, personality that's just all the worst parts of tidus put into one body..hell, the whole game could have gone on without him even being present. When you're left wandering 'what are you even doing in this game? JUST LEAVE!' You know you're a pretty big disgrace.
I have to agree with you there. FFXII was a terrible game, one that I only kept playing for that pirate dude and his Viera companion. But I really and truly spent most of the game wanting to stab Vaan repeatedly in the face.

But you know who I see as the most pathetic, disgraceful characters? Rivals. Those characters that up and appear out of nowhere to fight you for no good reason, frequently getting in the way when you're trying to get shit like save the goddamn world done.
 

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I was legitimately disappointed that she survived my suicide mission. I'm not sure why, but there is something about her that just rubs me the wrong way massively; I refuse to ever use her in my party.
Thank god it's not just me. I despise her with a passion and i'm not sure why
 

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Also though I found the idea that despite you being a courier you don't know where a damn thing in the world is....I mean all that was ruined was your face when you got shot
I'm no doctor... but I was under the assumption that there was, y'know... stuff behind my face. I mean, it can't just be empty space, right?

Wait.

Don't answer that.

...Maybe Doc Mitchell sneezed or had a muscle spasm while trying to remove the bullet? "Whoopsie! Hope that wasn't anything important I just poked... Oh well, it's not like (s)he'll know the difference..."
 

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Hammer from Fable 2 comes to mind. You escort her slow ass through a dungeon, beat the crap out of monsters, and she bitches about not being able to fight since she's a peaceful monk. Then, everything goes to hell and she decided to fight the antagonist of the game. A couple years later, in her last lines in the game, she blames the character for everything because he escorted her and was holding a weapon at the time. Her reasoning? "A Warrior goes looking for a fight. If you weren't there, none of this would have happened". I wanted to ask Theresa for my wish to be to go back in time and NOT save Hammer's ass in that dungeon. God she was annoying.

Also, EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER from Dance Central is a d*****-bag. It's really just picking your favorite flavor. I'm partial to the ascending-humanity-with-dance-and-motorcycles dude myself, since he's the only one who looks like he actually practices dancing in his spare time. Still, every single one of those characters is like a twisted stereotype of my age category ramped up several million levels of insulting, then given catch phrases and voices that make you want to find whoever designed those f*ckers and smash their head with your screen until the pain goes away in your soul.
 

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Yegargeburble said:
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Any marine from Reach.

Fuck those guys. Less uses than a DVD rewinder.
That's unfair... to the DVD rewinder.

I honestly barely noticed them in Reach, though. Mostly because they died so quickly. I think my damned hologram was tougher to kill than the marines...
It's not just personal dislike, it's actual gameplay issues. I got hit with friendly fire from my own marines because they felt that the wall two inches away was a greater threat than the elite forty yards away. With a rocket launcher.
 

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Lara Croft and, Nathan Drake. Nathan Drake murders his fellow man in pursuit of shining antiquities from days long past. Lara does the same thing only she also murders animals and sometimes monsters, also for shiny antiquities. I think Lara is the worse character though since she offers male game-players partial nudity if they help her murder her archaeological rivals. What's that Lara? you'll take off your top and swim around a bit if I help you blingify your house? Alright!

As opposed to a multitude of other game characters who murder others for the sheer hell of it? At least in uncharted Drake doesn't kill anyone that isn't already trying to kill him. In the second one he's totally against bringing guns to the museum because they're just security guards and just doing their jobs. Whereas in GTA the main character runs over pedestrians because it's fun...

OT: Kratos, the man is a complete and utter asshole, killing for no reason half the time other then he's pissed, playing that game really irritated me. And I never really liked silent protagonists like Gordon Freeman, hell they just seem rude and breaks the feeling of being in the game when someone asks them a question and they just stand there and don't say anything.
 

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Samus Aran in Metroid: MOther Other M. Disgrace to the character, disgrace to the franchise, disgrace to Yoshio Sakamoto. And it's "canon"...
 

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ChupathingyX said:
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Every Space Marine and every Non-space Marine in a non-space Shooter EVER!!!
Their names aren't important. Their personality is always of the "I'm actually a big pacifist, but an order's an order and blah-blah."
Let's just replace them with a create-a-character or have them be faceless anyway.
How the hell are the Space Mrines in Warhammer 40K pacifists? Not to mention the Chaos Space Marines.
I meant the "flawed pacifist, fighting the eternal war for eternal peace" which they would surely be if they were protagonists in a shooter or something.
Space marines as units and cannon fodder are OK in my book. Cause those really aren't characters.
 

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Rosh Penin from Jedi Academy gets my vote. It's like they took everything that was annoying about Anakin from the prequels and cranked it up to eleven. You can tell just by LOOKING at him that he's a whiny *****:

Now if you'll excuse me, I have the sudden urge to strangle something.
Beat me to it. Damn you. Damn him more, I hated that little ****.
 

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Well, the Master chief has less personality and emotion than a cement block. he is the least interesting character i have ever come across, that of itself does not make for a bad character, but the way the fanboys treat him as bad-ass in hyper-condensed really puts me of the character.
Well the books go into more detail as to who exactly John is and what his motives are, but I see where you're coming from. If you go solely by the games then there's not much you can glean from him.

Rosh Penin from Jedi Academy gets my vote. It's like they took everything that was annoying about Anakin from the prequels and cranked it up to eleven. You can tell just by LOOKING at him that he's a whiny *****:

Now if you'll excuse me, I have the sudden urge to strangle something.
So annoying he drove me to the dark side just in order to kill him. Was very satisfying though.

I briefly was annoyed by Duke, till I realized that the entire game takes place in the imagination of a 14 year old boy, and Duke is his way of coping with the need to grow up.

Both of the main characters in Army of Two.
 

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I agree, he released a virus that damaged/kill innocent civilians. Furthermore he agreed that the old Alex Mercer was stupid to release that virus. And why is he still alive while all those poor people died or turned into infected creatures (no offense to all the devoted players of prototype).