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Kriptonite

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People suck at video games. The people don't wanna work/play hard enough to get better. They cheat.
azncutthroat said:
Because cheaters don't really play to win, they just like to piss people off. Kind of like how rape isn't really about screwing a hot person, but more about domination. I guess they do it for self-gratification.
Also, I think this is a good way of putting it.
 

azncutthroat

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Kriptonite said:
People suck at video games. The people don't wanna work/play hard enough to get better. They cheat.
Yeah, there are also people who just downright suck and want to feel like they're good at something.
 

feather240

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I'm against cheating or glitching unless it's a server for it. If you went through the trouble to create your own server you should be allowed to hack and glitch. If you go in someone elses server and start doing that or don't advertise that you server is for cheating than you need to go away crawl into a hole and start rubbing your arteries until the skin scratches up and they burst.
 

The Madman

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Aby_Z said:
Did you finish reading my post? Me and my friend would often have normal matches in which I would play the ultimate defense, and he would... snipe people's heads off constantly. We played normally a lot, but we glitched when we were bored or wanted to unwind. Now, 2 years after moving on to the PC version, I suck at the 360 version, but I'll always have my memories, along with my epic 64 killing spree with 2 sentries in the enemy base.
It's not epic. You're a self-confessed cheater, your achievements mean nothing to anyone because from the first moment you started cheating, it became clear there was no way to properly gauge any skill on your part. How do I know you weren't cheating? Maybe you increased your damage just a tiny bit or used only a little glitch to get around a certain problem.

See the problem here? It's now impossible to take you seriously. Your gaming accomplishments are useless.

That's the problem with cheating. People think it means something, when in truth all they're doing is ruining it for everyone else while making fools of themselves. As the OP said:

"Why? Why must you suck so hard?"
 

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The Madman said:
Aby_Z said:
Did you finish reading my post? Me and my friend would often have normal matches in which I would play the ultimate defense, and he would... snipe people's heads off constantly. We played normally a lot, but we glitched when we were bored or wanted to unwind. Now, 2 years after moving on to the PC version, I suck at the 360 version, but I'll always have my memories, along with my epic 64 killing spree with 2 sentries in the enemy base.
It's not epic. You're a self-confessed cheater, your achievements mean nothing to anyone because from the first moment you started cheating, it became clear there was no way to properly gauge any skill on your part. How do I know you weren't cheating? Maybe you increased your damage just a tiny bit or used only a little glitch to get around a certain problem.

See the problem here? It's now impossible to take you seriously. Your gaming accomplishments are useless.

That's the problem with cheating. People think it means something, when in truth all they're doing is ruining it for everyone else while making fools of themselves. As the OP said:

"Why? Why must you suck so hard?"
sorry, what? I ask once more, though to you specifically now, did you even read what I posted? Perhaps you skimmed it, but did you comprehend all I said? Truly, there are 2 things wrong with your needless jab into my side:

1) You commit the crime of starting it out with a defense that can't be defended against. It's as if you said "You're in denial!" I can't deny that, because then I'm proving it, and if I say "Ok, I am" then I loose too.

2)You make the horrible crime of not knowing what the fuck you're talking about.

No, The only glitches (Actually wrongly named. Should be 'exploits') in TF2 on the 360 version allow you to get out of the normal playing area and build sentries where you naturally shouldn't, or shoot people where they can't shoot back. There is no way to 'exploit' the system to allow yourself to do 'just a tiny bit' more damage.

YOU are part of what is wrong, really. You stereotype everyone who has ever cheated and say they're worthless shits. The only difference between turning on a cheat in a 1 player game and a multiplayer game is the amount of people it affects. The reason (for me at least) is still the same: To try something new, to experience something a little different, TO HAVE FUN. I played the game naturally and excelled quite a bit. I have many many hours under my belt(over 300 hours on all classes) and I spent a damn good amount of time learning my way around the game. I note the amazing achievements I had while playing real games, and the only time I note 'achievements' while I glitch are when I was truly surprised or amazed, like when the enemy completely took us by surprise by finding a flaw in our 'impenetrable' defense of the final point, storming it and capping and winning the game. We congratulated their brilliance sincerely.

The reason I feel you haven't a clue what I actually wrote is because of your 3rd 'paragraph' : "That's the problem with cheating. People think it means something, when in truth all they're doing is ruining it for everyone else while making fools of themselves."

You assume I'm trying to look cool, or attain status/rank, or gain achievements by exploiting these things, but I'm not. I did it for fun, and it was. We actually had people on BOTH teams truly enjoy the matches we had. The achievements I'm proud of in game are only from when no glitch was involved, or when others persevered over our glitches.

It is people like YOU who sicken me. Stereotype others without a thought and try not to even allow for defense on the other side.

I Can't quite quote someone influential enough as the OP, but I can put a similar question in quotes: "Why? Why must jackasses like you run the world?"
 

happysock

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The only times I ever cheated was in COD:WAW on castle and dome and all i'd do was kill the people who tried to get into the glitch, to stop them spoiling it for my friends who weren't very good. I like to think of myself as a team player
 

randomrob

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people cheat because they can't win otherwise, and it gratifies them to win, even if they aren't actually the better player. Basically losers cheat.
 

Random Argument Man

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I don't cheat because I'm "not good". I cheat when I want a new appeal to a game. However, I don't cheat online. I'll probably be the first to attack you in Warcraft 3 if you utter "whoisyourdaddy" (Was it spelled like that? I don't remember).
 

TPiddy

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Sorry, glitching and any cheats that were not intended to be in the game is just cheating and is just wrong. I've seen many crab walkers and shotgun chainsawers in Gears and it just spoils the spirit of competition. As a programmer, I know how these things can somehow get missed.

One of my major beefs with a glitch in gears is the Subway map and it's various breaking points. There's one right by the bottom Subway car that does nothing but allow you to walk behind the subway car. This area is not normally accessible, and once you get in you can't get out, meaning the only reason to go in there is to prevent the other team from killing you, dragging out the match length unnecessarily. Fortunately if the glitcher in question is stupid enough you can usually snipe or grenade them and kill them in there, but otherwise it's just frustrating as hell.
 

AndyFromMonday

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Sgtkillalot0 said:
lasherman said:
I used to play Combat Arms, until I realized that EVERYONE was hacking. I'm not normally one of those people to shout Haxxorz! at anyone who kills me, but once you start seeing people standing in mid air shooting people in the head, or floating around underneath the map, I can't stand it. What these people don't realize (or care about) is that they ruin the game for everybody. Once there are too many hackers/cheaters, everyone just assumes that anyone displaying skill at the game must also be cheating. I just solved my problem by playing Wolfteam instead. There you get called laggers, not hackers, lol.
Play Quake Live if you want a free enjoyable game.

OT: I know what spot you're talking about, and hopefully things like this will be fixed in MW2
Or he could play Battlefield Heroes, it's a fun game.



OT: Cheaters usually cheat not because they want to annoy people(most of the times anyways), but because they do not want to work hard in order to get the goodies. They always look for the "easy" way to get the best out of something.

The problem with this is the moment you actually get that thing, you won't want it anymore. It's like with money. If you work hard for it, you won't want to spend it. If it's given to you, you won't care what you're wasting it on.
 

Mcface

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It happens more often with games in which you have something to gain.
I.E exp, ranks, weapons, achievements, etc.

However, glitching into a map is not cheating. If its in the game, it's the Devs fault for not patching it.
 
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I can't agree with any arguments for cheating, to be honest. Yes, it's fun for you, but not for other people. Saying "They should quit if they don't want to play" and then saying "I do it because I'm bored" really doesn't make any sense. You ruin games that people want to play because you're bored of them and don't want to play them properly? Huh?

If you glitch and don't play the game as intended, then you're cheating. If you cheat, you're ruining the game for everyone else. Simples!

Of course, this doesn't apply if everyone in the game's doing it!
 

Ziadaine_v1legacy

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No where near as bad as CoD2. I ban at least 2 people a day from our server, Usually they're either Aimbots who do it to piss everyone off, or they are regulars who've become so obsessed with their rank (We have a ranking system) that they use Wallhacks to try and get themselves to the top. Which is just sad since its like a Mini-Family, You all get along then suddenly Jimmy in the next room starts dating an ugly hooker and goes to everyone, "At least I'm getting Laid".

...Bad Example but you know what I mean, It just give us Disappointment followed by a Large boot in their arse.