China Aims to Replace iOS, Android with National Operation System

Amethyst Wind

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Not G. Ivingname said:
I have a feeling this will operating system will not be very good.

The NSA backdoors will be replaced with Chinese governmental backdoors, frontdoors, and really big windows.

Also, China isn't well known for it's large workforce of great programmers.
The majority of global hacking attacks (serious ones, not Lulzsec or Anonymous) are basically confirmed to come from China. They do put considerable resources into spying on other nations, and they are better at it than most.

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Kenjitsuka

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"Not only will it not have NSA backdoors"
As long as people like money, there's always a chance someone will be paid off to betray you...
But it is highly probable it *has* Chinese backdoors.
 

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Kenjitsuka said:
"Not only will it not have NSA backdoors"
As long as people like money, there's always a chance someone will be paid off to betray you...
But it is highly probable it *has* Chinese backdoors.
The irony will no doubt be that the NSA will bribe someone to give them the keys to the legit backdoors. This kind of stuff used to happen with moles in the KGB handing over stuff to the CIA, thus saving the latter a whole lot of effort in following people around. No need to surveil when your enemy will do for you nearly for free. If China goes through with this, there's going to be lots of tears when other governments and regular old hackers figure out how to pop open the secret spy code.
 

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Well, i mean the NSA has supposedly had backdoors in Windows since Windows 2000 along with several Cisco routers (and probably more). It's almost safe to assume they can just access any PC with Windows on it connected to the internet.

At the very least, Linus Torvalds also publicly stated that government spooks also approached him about putting in an NSA backdoor in the Linux kernel but he sent them away (it's also open source so you can look for it yourself, it's not there).
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
I have a feeling this will operating system will not be very good.

The NSA backdoors will be replaced with Chinese governmental backdoors, frontdoors, and really big windows.

Also, China isn't well known for it's large workforce of great programmers.
I'd beg to differ, the majority of foreign hack attacks, including attacks on the pentagon have originated from China. Granted DoS attacks do not require any skills, but the chines state sponsored hackers have also made sophisticated virus' like "code red", "flame", "nimda/shamon/conflicker" ect. These programs can do everything from messing with instrumentation, ripping account details and ftp server information, to modifying boot procedures!. Most civillians just don't notice because they are not targets.


OT: I think it is futile trying to introduce a new OS, maybe it's is all conjecture and paranoia, but the more I hear about the NSA's spy programs the more I feel that they are omniscient and omnipresent, perhaps that is the hidden reason for all of this. According to Snowden the NSA is developing tech to tap into unetworked computers by "listening" to tiny radio signal communication between computer components. which has led the Russian FSB to pruchase under 100000$ worth of typewriters and typists in order to safeguard secrets the old fashion way.

It's funny in a cynical way, how mistrust between nations would cause technological regression.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
Interesting choice, get the american programs and let us spy on you or get the chinese version and let them spy on you. I think it all comes down to whose intelligence service does more brutal interrogations. Given that choice I'd say NSA, I think China might've learned a few things from the KGB back during the Cold War and as everyone knows the KGB are beyond brutal.
Exactly was I was thinking. This is a rare situation where people will throw up their hands and say, "NSA, PLEASE SPY ON ME."
 

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The largest nation in the world and it's taken them this long to develop their own OS? I for one welcome the people's glorious operating system. It ill impress me to no end if it manages to at least be marginally less intrusive than today's operating systems, the NSA, or google/facebook have become.
 

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While a stupid idea, it is neat as it says it will be running Linux which I am a big fan of. It is definatly a choice between being spied on by the US or China, though, you could also just use Ubuntu/Suse/Arch/ANY LINUX SYSTEM EVER and not be spied on by anyone. But either way we end up being married to an email provider and we get spied on anyway so... ... It doesn't really matter in the end.
 

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Damn it, The US government should have just killed Snowden from the start like the good old cold war days since he was such a massive intelligence leak, then I wouldn't keep having to hear about all of this stupidity.

Just because it is out in the open now people make such a big deal about it when everyone should have realized that they have been spying on us for decades and it doesn't matter.
 

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As reported on [a href=http://chinese.engadget.com/2014/01/16/cos-china-operation-system/]Engadget China[/a], iOS is too closed, Android is too fragmented, and Windows Phone is too insecure.
And the new OS will take these features and put it into one! You will have a closed, fragmented system that is insecure. Because we already know what kind of software china is making and why they should stick to hardware business.
 

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Yopaz said:
Pfft, China spied on me before it was cool. Now it's gotten all mainstream and such. I'm going to let NSA spy on me ironically now.
Ironically or post-ironically? ;)

Wherever I am in the world, I think I would always prefer to be spied on by the NSA because at least they wont come kick my door down and drag me away in the middle of the night to a Tibetan death camp. And besides, the NSA only cares if I start wanting to blow up buildings. The Chinese will go after people for talking bad about the government.
 

lacktheknack

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Linux-based

So, they "break the foreign monopoly" by using an OS spearheaded by a Finn/American (Linus Torvalds).

BRILLIANT!
 

Zefar

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Question is, will it blow up? Everything else they make seems to blow up at some point.

I just think this is another way for China to control their popular even more as they have never been about Freedom. With their new OS they could control what games works on it and which don't. Think World of Warcraft will work? Highly doubt it.
 

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VanQ said:
Are you sick of the US Government spying on you? We, the Chinese Government would like to offer an alternative. Let us spy on you! You don't want anyone spying on you? Too bad! Pick your poison and be glad we gave you a choice.
This is China we're talking about. The people will be lucky if they do get a choice.
 

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thaluikhain said:
wombat_of_war said:
while an interesting idea it wouldnt in any way have a backdoor for access to chinese government intelligence services now would it
Eh...allows people the freedom to choose if they want to be spied on by the US or China, which I guess is a plus. All the trendy people will want to be spied on by China, being spied on by the NSA is too mainstream.
sure free to choose and then be spied on by both anyway and it probably wont just be those two doing it either.