Chivalry

[mitchell271]

You call that chivalry?

Chivalry is learning how to joust while wearing a full suit of armor. Chivalry is owning a castle and having peasants live and work for you. Chivalry is participating in tournaments to win gold and prizes.

no, that's knighthood
chivalry is something like throwing your jacket over a puddle so your partner (who is presumably a retard because they can't walk around a fucking puddle) doesn't get their feet wet or standing on the outside of the sidewalk so you get splattered with mud if a car goes by too quickly instead of your partner

 

[DonSolo]

I'm brin' Chivalry Back, HE-YEA!

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

I think we should be polite to everyone equally.

Seems so obvious.

 

[C95J]

I hold the door for everyone. It's called being nice, I prefer equality for everyone over chivalry.

 

[Paksenarrion]

Oh, shit! Only guys are supposed to hold doors for people?! I've been doing it wrong!

Next time, I'm going to slam the door in front of everyone. And then teabag them through the door.

"But you can't teabag someone through a d-"

TEABAG THEM THROUGH THE DOOR.

 

[Midnight Crossroads]

Chivalry has never existed. It was invented as a code of conduct amongst Christian knights who had a habit of burning villages, raping women, and throwing puppies in the fire to listen to their deathcries followed by a much needed piss on the ashes. It's like Bushido among the Japanese, a puffed up institution only glorious in the eyes of old men who should have died much younger and who like to see the past in rose colored glasses.

Chivalry is just one of a long list of things people like to romanticize while forgetting just what it really means. It's about as ludicrous as women wanting to be princesses or brides, i.e. bargaining chips.

If you want to treat a girl special, do it. Especially if she appreciates it. But if a woman is put off by you holding a door, it might just be you. Having manners goes a long way, but it's only one part of what elevates a man from a slobbering beast.

As for me, I hold the door open for anyone older than me, and any girl. It's a mechanical response brought on by being raised to be as close to a Southern Gentleman as my parents could hope for given the circumstances.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I think it's nice.

A lot of girls enjoy little feelings of being spoiled and treated like a princess from time to time and if its a girl who is worth spoiling then why not.

And guys don't like getting spoiled?

Why do you ask? I don't see anything in my post that implies we don't.

 

[Bad Marmoset]

I don't know about chivalry but I try to be polite and well-mannered with people of both sexes 100 percent of the time. Unfortunately, I fail approximately 96.4 percent of the time, Which is a tad irritating.

 

[xdom125x]

I try to respect all others equally. If somebody is a couple steps behind me when I go through a door, then I will hold the door whether the person is male or female. It is only making their life slightly easier. However, I can understand that it can also mean that I think that person can't hold a door open for themself. It is a tough choice because if you don't hold the door for a woman, you look like a jerk, while if you do hold the door they may think you are a sexist.

 

[Sikachu]

Those old traditions of holding a door for a lady, standing up when talking to a lady, taking off your hat when in an elevator with a lady... you catch my drift. I'm talking about chivalry.

First introduced as a sign of respect to the "weaker sex", which is why many people, men, feminists think these traditions are outdated and sexist. I have also witnessed many escapists complaining about chivalry in regards to equal rights, saying there should be a similar code of conduct for women, or none at all.

I would consider myself old fashioned enough to partake in these traditions, but how does the escapist community, you guys, feel about it? An extra question to the female population of the site, do you enjoy seeing men follow these rules of conduct, or do you think chivalry is outdated and unpractical in every day life?

Fuck chivalry. I'll hold a door for a woman, but then I'll hold a door for a man if it makes sense. I do follow some of the rules kind of on autopilot though, and I relax my rather aggressive position to some extent if I'm flirting with someone, but in a general sense, if she wants to be paid the same amount of money for the same amount of work then she can expect to occasionally open her own damn door. That said I do worry about hitting women (back - I don't do hitting people at all in general), though I have a strong suspicion that this is more to do with societally enforced sexism in that situation than it is to do with me actually being sexist.

 

[Asturiel]

I thought we just called this "being nice". Whats so wrong with that? If somebody is doing it specifically to women they're likely just trying to get laid (the variety Woodsey seems to be raging about) or are just really old fashioned.

 

[eannamor]

If it doesn't hurt anyone what is the problem? In college I studied a lot of feminist social commentators, wrote a few papers on the subject (feminism, not chivalry). Equality is fine, as long as we all pull our weight, equal pay for equal work, all types of work. But as the bearer of the next generation, do women not deserve to be treated with respect, or chivalry? Thats why I go out of my way to help a woman if I see they need a hand or if it is a nice thing to do. Simple. I think that weaker sex stuff doesn't enter most guys head when they see a woman in need of assistance... some other things might though

 

[inglioti]

You call that chivalry?

Chivalry is learning how to joust while wearing a full suit of armor. Chivalry is owning a castle and having peasants live and work for you. Chivalry is participating in tournaments to win gold and prizes.

That's gallantry. Chivalry is exactly what he described.

 

[zehydra]

I think it's nice.

A lot of girls enjoy little feelings of being spoiled and treated like a princess from time to time and if its a girl who is worth spoiling then why not.

And guys don't like getting spoiled?

Why do you ask? I don't see anything in my post that implies we don't.

because Chivalry is gender exclusive to females.

 

[archvile93]

How is showing courtesy to a woman archaic? Because its old? does that mean living in a house is archaic? or eating at a table? (I refuse to use your malaproper of "Prehistoric" as History was being recorded at the time.) And you are uninformed on the definition of Chivalry, it does not mean "Show false courtesy to women and treat them like they are prizes to be won." it means to act in a courtly manner to all people. Chivalry was devised to keep Knights from being the complete monsters they were in war while at home; it taught humility, discipline, honor and reason. It was a strict set of rules that Knights were to follow at all times. But of course there are certain Knights who did not follow theese rules and they were dishonerable bastards who dont deserve a mention here, much like anyone who complains about a woman not liking them despite their calm, supportive, pleasant attitude to them; they are not true "nice guy" they put on a facade of "nice guy" in an attempt to woo the lady, a true "nice guy" is nice to EVERYONE regardless of theyre status as a potential partner or not. And as to your opinion of some people "Acting like They're 65." I must say that these values were instilled in us by our parents and so maybe its just that we were raised in a different environment than you that instilled in us these qualities you desperatly wish would go the way of the dodo.

*smiles broadly and applauds* Nice. It's pleasant to see someone point out that just because a values system is older, that doesn't mean it's out of date or no longer valid. The chivalric code has roots in a very well thought system and served a good purpose then, and still does today, no matter how much our society has evolved. As someone who has met WAY too many "nice" guys putting on "chivalrous" airs in an attempt to impress, I agree pretty much with everything you presented.

I met a young Brit fellow who treated me in a genuinely chivalrous manner, which was frankly enthralling BECAUSE his display was genuine. *gushes* It was nice to have a man treat me so respectfully and kindly, but seeing that he was the same with others, female or male, that he was true of nature and purpose, made him an exceptional person in my eyes and my heart. His being "old fashioned" might have made him an anachronism to some of his friends, but it didn't seem to concern him and it certainly didn't upset me.

Actually, knights were not like how they are portrayed in media; they rarely followed the code they claimed to. The closest analogy I can think of to a knight is actually a mob enforcer.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

I'd rather be treated as an equal. But that's just me.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I think it's nice.

A lot of girls enjoy little feelings of being spoiled and treated like a princess from time to time and if its a girl who is worth spoiling then why not.

And guys don't like getting spoiled?

Why do you ask? I don't see anything in my post that implies we don't.

because Chivalry is gender exclusive to females.

Well I for one don't mind if women want to hold doors open for me or not. I like when they spoil me in decidedly un-chivalrous ways.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

ehh...

i try to be, doesn't matter who it is, but i hold a door or whatever whenever.

however, i literally have been scolded at and given dirty looks by some very impolite femi nazi's for doing such, so im less likely too now a days..

 

[eatenbyagrue]

Personally, I don't just take the "conduct towards women" parts of chivalry, I take the entire thing.

See, I always fancied myself as an aristocrat. I'm very well educated, intelligent and polite, and I think that being chivalrous is a good way to show superior breeding. So I do. I personally follow not just the "courtly love" part, but the parts about honor and the knightly virtues (courage, justice, mercy, charity, faith, valour, hope, diligence, truth, humility and resolve).

 

[Bravo 21]

well, i try to be polite and all, but when it comes to sportss, then well, no quarters, just equality