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Spirultima

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Now to get this out of the way, im Atheist and this is no hate thread, this is just everyone's opinions (no fighting please, debating, fair enough, but no fighting).

I'm a very logical person who always looks on both sides of an argument, taking both opinions and ideals into consideration while developing a conclusion of my own; so i ran through my head "why is Christianity so famous?" And personally as a religion i find it so bland, "there is a single god, called god and his son called Jesus" at least in Ancient Egypt there religion had about over 20 gods all with a backstory and a such, even the Norse people had just below a dozen. All of which are very interesting, on how they influenced the lifes of the followers. With Christianity, its just so basic, in the library of beliefs it comes under "baby's first religion" "this is a god, worship him, be a nice guy."

With all its simplicity aside, it did give way to keeping some human values intact such as no rape, murder etc. which was brought on before, but it helped during the dark ages. But now or days it seems so...unnecessary, now i don't mind Christians; some of them its hard to tell they even believe in god, but its the ones who throw it in your face about how your going to hell and that god is still forgiving and bleh (FYI: Satan is more appealing, 1. he has killed far less people, 2. he takes the bad people and punishes them, while being made out to be evil, commitment much?).

Because i would write about 19 pages on my own, i think i'll just leave it at that, my point is put across and my opinion is it.

Whats yours?
 

Pendragon9

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Yeah, I never got the whole point of Christians saying you're going to hell. Loving God and hell don't add up. Am I right?
 

MusicalFreedom

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This thread gives us all the opportunity to discuss various issues relating to religion, and perhaps reach a deeper understanaosfn;jgnkzfh

couldn't do it. Bible's got some cool stuff I guess.
 

Lexodus

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Due to years of abuse and televangelism, I have decided that the only way I am happy around many Christians is if they are nailed to the floor and I have a fully-loaded minigun. However! That is only the right-wingers; the ones that say, 'Be good, because it's the right thing to do' and don't actively try and convert me (being born Jewish has many problems) are fine. They can keep on doing what they do, and I have no problem with their beliefs. It's only when somebody SHOVES it down my throat that I start to get pissed.


That all said, it is a very boring religion. Bring on the Greeks, the Pagans, the Egyptians, anyone with cool gods and ideas that make you work your brain. Also, a non-chauvinistic, non-misogynistic religion is best.
 

Cliff_m85

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NoMoreSanity said:
Honestly, even though I'm Athiest I don't so much hate Christianity as I do the people that subvert it to their own goals. Even at its worst Christianity values compassion and kindness, I'm just not a God guy.

But I prefer LaVey Satanism, really cool thought process which doens't actually involve worshipping Satan.
Though Anton LaVey was a hypocrit plagarist.
 

Berithil

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Yay! another religion thread. There's a reason religion topics aren't allowed on most websites. Now I shall leave before the flaming starts
 

Church256

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Exactly the same as yours. Christian is very boring and if anyone knows why it's so popular I would love to know.

But I know why I don't beleive. It's hard to take a religion serious when the main evil guy works for the good guy.
 

Cliff_m85

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NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Honestly, even though I'm Athiest I don't so much hate Christianity as I do the people that subvert it to their own goals. Even at its worst Christianity values compassion and kindness, I'm just not a God guy.

But I prefer LaVey Satanism, really cool thought process which doens't actually involve worshipping Satan.
Though Anton LaVey was a hypocrit plagarist.
How so?
If you read Ragnar Redbeard's "Might is Right" and Aynn Rand's "Atlus Shrugged" you'd see not only simularities but actual duplicated portions. A quick google search or perhaps a wikipedia search might bring up some suitable examples.
 

Cliff_m85

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NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Honestly, even though I'm Athiest I don't so much hate Christianity as I do the people that subvert it to their own goals. Even at its worst Christianity values compassion and kindness, I'm just not a God guy.

But I prefer LaVey Satanism, really cool thought process which doens't actually involve worshipping Satan.
Though Anton LaVey was a hypocrit plagarist.
How so?
If you read Ragnar Redbeard's "Might is Right" and Aynn Rand's "Atlus Shrugged" you'd see not only simularities but actual duplicated portions. A quick google search or perhaps a wikipedia search might bring up some suitable examples.
Well it said on Wikipedia that he was influenced by Rand, and maybe Redbeard.

Influence is fine. Taking whole segments without giving credit, however, is not fine.
 

Darkrain11

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True, Christianity has been used to kill thousands upon thousands of people and it is quite simplistic but I guess simplicity is what people back than needed and the basic values are good to follow.

Me, I'm in the middle between Atheisim and Agnostic( Believe in God But don't follow any religion).
 

quiet_samurai

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It's so popular in the US because it was Christains who first settled here and then later on sought independance. There are alot of factors as to why it's so popular in Europe too, i just don't fell like ttyping them. Just google Emperor Constantine, St. Peter, and the Crusades.
 

Kogarian

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Because in the Abrahamic religion, their God is perfect, represents everything good (not just fertility or children) and actually looks after them (in his own way). Not many non-Abrahamic gods did that.
 

Cliff_m85

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NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Honestly, even though I'm Athiest I don't so much hate Christianity as I do the people that subvert it to their own goals. Even at its worst Christianity values compassion and kindness, I'm just not a God guy.

But I prefer LaVey Satanism, really cool thought process which doens't actually involve worshipping Satan.
Though Anton LaVey was a hypocrit plagarist.
How so?
If you read Ragnar Redbeard's "Might is Right" and Aynn Rand's "Atlus Shrugged" you'd see not only simularities but actual duplicated portions. A quick google search or perhaps a wikipedia search might bring up some suitable examples.
Well it said on Wikipedia that he was influenced by Rand, and maybe Redbeard.

Influence is fine. Taking whole segments without giving credit, however, is not fine.
Well maybe he subconciously copied it if he read them enough. I do the same at times.
With 98% of the exact words being duplicated? Even then that wouldn't stand up in a court of law.
 

Lexodus

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Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Cliff_m85 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Honestly, even though I'm Athiest I don't so much hate Christianity as I do the people that subvert it to their own goals. Even at its worst Christianity values compassion and kindness, I'm just not a God guy.

But I prefer LaVey Satanism, really cool thought process which doens't actually involve worshipping Satan.
Though Anton LaVey was a hypocrit plagarist.
How so?
If you read Ragnar Redbeard's "Might is Right" and Aynn Rand's "Atlus Shrugged" you'd see not only simularities but actual duplicated portions. A quick google search or perhaps a wikipedia search might bring up some suitable examples.
Well it said on Wikipedia that he was influenced by Rand, and maybe Redbeard.

Influence is fine. Taking whole segments without giving credit, however, is not fine.
Well maybe he subconciously copied it if he read them enough. I do the same at times.
With 98% of the exact words being duplicated? Even then that wouldn't stand up in a court of law.
...Magic.
 

Cliff_m85

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Allow me to give an example....

Redbeard: ?Behold the crucifix, what does it symbolize? Pallid incompetence hanging on a tree.?

LaVey: ?Behold the crucifix; what does it symbolize? Pallid incompetence hanging on a tree.?

Redbeard: ?Can the torn and bloody victim ?love? the blood-splashed jaws that rend it limb from limb? Are we not all predatory animals by instinct? If humans ceased wholly from preying upon each other, could they continue to exist??

LaVey: ?Can the torn and bloody victim ?love? the blood-splashed jaws that rend him limb from limb? Are we not all predatory animals by instinct? If humans ceased wholly from preying upon each other, could they continue to exist??
 
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The reason that Christianity was founded was for the governments to exert control over the people. The same goes for Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. The reason that those religions are still around is, surprise, the exact same reason they were founded. Do you really think militia groups in the Middle-East could get suicide-bombers without the promise of a great reward after death? Or that those TV Evangelists could keep getting people to donate without the threat of eternal damnation?
 

Flying-Emu

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My opinion on Christianity? Well, you asked for it.

I view modern Christianity as a near abomination. A bastardization of the true message and ideals of Christianity. You have racist idiots calling themselves Christians, people using the Bible as justification for horrendous deeds. And then that spawns people who say that Christianity is the source of all evil in the world.

I'm what is called a Deist; that is, I believe that the Lord God created the universe and natural laws and allowed it to run its course. He plays very little hand in the world. The Bible? Well... that's a good question.

The Bible is a distressing question for me. At once, it holds a lot of messages that I think should be taken to heart, yet at the same time I realize that it was written by mankind in an attempt to understand the words of a Holy Being more powerful than the mind can conceive. Therefore, I interpret the Bible in a non-literal sense; that is, the message is more important than the details of the story.

This thread will not end well, if threads with even the mention of Christianity hold true.
 

findler

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Personally, I'm an agnostic. After many years of trying organized religion and many different flavors of Christianity, it's just really not for me. I do believe in God, the Christian God because to me it's undeniable. Take a look at the human circulatory system! Someone had their hands all over that one. While I believe that religion has been abused and exploited to the benefit of certain people on this earth, I still think that spirituality and belief are very strong and untainted.