Cliff Bleszinski Labels Notch a "Pouty Kid" - Updated

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Adultratedhydra said:
MrHide-Patten said:
History will decide on whther or not Occulus made the right call. Frankly I think they did. It's 2 BILLION DOLLARS PEOPLE! No company would turn down that kinda cash, and it's not like they're gasing Jews to get it.
The only response you're going to get with that is "The money shouldnt matter to them." But then the people who say that probably thought oculus was going to remain independant forever. Poor misguided youth.
Kids these day's think they can have their cakes and bum them too...
Speaking as a developer who's not doing so flash financially, I can say that I would gladly do somebody's bidding for 100,000 dollars. Integrity doesn't grant you immortality, you'll die a (wo)man who never caved or 'sold out', but none of that matters because your DEAD.

Frankly this gives the project some legs, to me it seemed like teh doomed Ouya, a pipe dream that hadn't crashed and burned yet. But with the money they might actually achieve something.
 

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This is my current mental image of these two. Nothing but childishness all around. Besides, what difference does it really make? All it'll take to run Minecraft on Occulus is a simple mod anyway.

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Is Cliff a hypocrite? Probably. But the man is right.
I guess every clock is correct twice a day.
 

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Facebook is going to shove the Rift into doing what it wants it to do, and what Facebook wants is not gaming. We all know it, we've all predicted it, and regardless of Minecraft no longer being in the cards for the Rift, it doesn't matter at this point. As soon as FB bought OR out it ceased being a tool available to all and is now firmly tucked away in Facebook's dust-collecting corner. It won't be used for anything more than a VR Farmville to squeeze out a couple more pennies in microtransactions. There's no other reason for Facebook to buyout like this, because Facebook's a friggin' social media network, not a gaming network. The vast majority of Facebook's users aren't going to be interested in the Rift.
Perhaps in the long term, but their short term goal is to let Occulus establish the product as worth getting.

Then [Zuckerberg] said, ?What if we partner with you? You stay the same. Stay who you are. You expand that vision and focus on other things also. Gaming is core. But how can we help and invest significantly into the platform, the hardware, and bring down the cost of it. We could make it more optimized, do custom silicon, make this even better. What if we also invest in the parts so you can sell the virtual reality platform at cost?? [http://zacharycampbell.com/blog/category/virtual-reality/]

As long as that wasn't a lie then everyone wins. The only remaining question is how facebook stands to make a return on this and that quote indicates that their goal is to establish the Oculus as THE VR platform before taking advantage of their position.

On the day when it becomes too tedious to use the Rift because of some hairbrained micro transaction scheme we (the tech elite) will root the damn things and continue using the excellent hardware as desired.

Olas said:
This is my current mental image of these two. Nothing but childishness all around. Besides, what difference does it really make? All it'll take to run Minecraft on Occulus is a simple mod anyway.
Exactly, Notch even pointed out that a mod already exists.

His plan was to make a free Minecraft version that was similar to the phone app just to declutter the VR environment.
 

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It's true that Cliff Blenzinski is a bit of a pot calling the kettle black considering his own canceling of PC versions of any Gears games after 1 but it still was a bit childish to cancel a version of your game for Oculus Rift just because the ownership changed. It's just punishing anyone who wanted to play the game on the OR. At the same time though, it's his game and he seems to have complete control over it so it's ultimately his decision.
 

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SushiJaguar said:
Facebook is going to shove the Rift into doing what it wants it to do, and what Facebook wants is not gaming. We all know it, we've all predicted it, and regardless of Minecraft no longer being in the cards for the Rift, it doesn't matter at this point. As soon as FB bought OR out it ceased being a tool available to all and is now firmly tucked away in Facebook's dust-collecting corner. It won't be used for anything more than a VR Farmville to squeeze out a couple more pennies in microtransactions. There's no other reason for Facebook to buyout like this, because Facebook's a friggin' social media network, not a gaming network. The vast majority of Facebook's users aren't going to be interested in the Rift.

Not to mention the fact a large portion of them wouldn't be intelligent enough to operate it anyway.
You've contradicted yourself in this post. You say Facebook won't want to focus on giving us games, instead they'll want to target Facebook users. Then you say that most users won't care. That doesn't make any sense.

This is beside the fact that Zuckerberg explicitly said the top priority is to finish the original gaming plan before moving onto other things. The idea that it will be just used for "VR Farmville" which will apparently somehow give them a few more microtransactions is utterly insane. Facebook aren't actually making the games here, they just own the technology for the hardware. The fact that they're not a "gaming network" is completely irrelevant. Go back to 2000 and Microsoft weren't a gaming company. Go back to 1990 and Sony weren't a gaming company. Go back to 1980 and Nintendo weren't a gaming company. By your logic, none of them should have gotten involved, they should have stuck to software, electronics and card games respectively.

I'm not sure where you get this weird assumption that most Facebook users aren't "intelligent enough" to operate one either. This is basically a TV that you stick to your face that can also track the motion of your head. If a human is mentally able enough to turn on a computer and sign up for a Facebook account, they can use a Rift. All the Rift really is is a new type of PC monitor that is used to play PC games. The PC games themselves are completely unaffected by this.
 

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CliffyB is a useless twit that isn't even in the video game business anymore. So who cares? I never cared about what he spewed from his mouth when he was in the business.

Man, I hope his real estate license comes in soon so he can sell trailers and get off the game news.
 

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C14N said:
It's true that Cliff Blenzinski is a bit of a pot calling the kettle black considering his own canceling of PC versions of any Gears games after 1 but it still was a bit childish to cancel a version of your game for Oculus Rift just because the ownership changed. It's just punishing anyone who wanted to play the game on the OR. At the same time though, it's his game and he seems to have complete control over it so it's ultimately his decision.
Well Cliffy B's canceling means the game cannot be played on PC, unless someone's managed to cobble together a good enough emulator by now, haven't checked.

All Notch canceled was a simplified free version of minecraft for the OR, the full paid version is still available, and there's already a mod for it to work with OR. So the game is already there.
 

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Cerebrawl said:
C14N said:
It's true that Cliff Blenzinski is a bit of a pot calling the kettle black considering his own canceling of PC versions of any Gears games after 1 but it still was a bit childish to cancel a version of your game for Oculus Rift just because the ownership changed. It's just punishing anyone who wanted to play the game on the OR. At the same time though, it's his game and he seems to have complete control over it so it's ultimately his decision.
Well Cliffy B's canceling means the game cannot be played on PC, unless someone's managed to cobble together a good enough emulator by now, haven't checked.

All Notch canceled was a simplified free version of minecraft for the OR, the full paid version is still available, and there's already a mod for it to work with OR. So the game is already there.
Oh, the whole thing seems like a bit of a non-issue then. I mean I guess realistically every game should work with the Oculus Rift (it's just a pair of 1080p screens like any other monitor), the only thing the ports or mods will add is 3D and head tracking.