CliffyB Doesn't Like MGS4
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Alright skimming through, what is the point of this article? If all he is doing is saying "We don't make games like MGS4" then this is just a waste of everyone's time, did anyone expect GeOW2 to have long cutscenes or something? Sorry for my density but I've missed the point thanks to the headline and the "passive entertainment" comment.
The 'point' is that people feel like being on the defensive about MSG4, just because Cliff said that he doesn't make games like that and that the style of hour long cutscenes is going out of style.
Again, people, he didn't take any 'cheap shots' at the game, nor did he critic it, he just said that he wasn't making a game like it and that it's going out of style. Not that it is out of style immediately right now you will start hating the game, but that it's getting old and in all respect, it really is getting old. It's a classic form of video game, not a modern one, and like Snake is getting on in it's years.
Again, people, he didn't take any 'cheap shots' at the game, nor did he critic it, he just said that he wasn't making a game like it and that it's going out of style. Not that it is out of style immediately right now you will start hating the game, but that it's getting old and in all respect, it really is getting old. It's a classic form of video game, not a modern one, and like Snake is getting on in it's years.
Guys, this article is from 30 Jun 2008 11:00 am. I mean, we all know that CliffyB is a douche and what not, but it's the past let it go.
But last time I checked (which was a while ago) the MG(S) series have sold more than the GeOW serieses. It seems people do like "passive entertainment" nowadays.
But last time I checked (which was a while ago) the MG(S) series have sold more than the GeOW serieses. It seems people do like "passive entertainment" nowadays.
Well if this is going to turn into a cutscene debate, I'll admit that it's going "out of style" but it's only being replaced with real-time cutscenes in which you still do nothing but just watch what happens while controlling your characters head, and maybe have a quicktime event to deal with, until we get rid of scripting in general we're going to have cutscenes, whether they be 10 minutes or 100 minutes - Mass Effect and The Witcher did something with that (yet ME still had unskippable cutscenes which were annoying) but they are RPG's so it's all about "multiple choice/say what you want" - which I don't see happening in GeOW - and hell it wouldn't even work well with Gears, and it also had those cutscenes (if you want to call them that) where your character just puts his hand on his ear, listens to the radio chatter, and you control him walking slowly forward - and sometimes Mass Effect's "dialog system" just padded the length because all 3 choices would have said the same thing - overall cutscenes have taken a different form but they are still there. It's like everyone is expecting games to become actual VR this November.
We complain about cutscenes, unlockable content, linearity, repetition, pretty or ugly graphics, realism, etc. - do we just not like games anymore?
We complain about cutscenes, unlockable content, linearity, repetition, pretty or ugly graphics, realism, etc. - do we just not like games anymore?
Meh, this whole topic is a battle of opinions. It should probably be locked, nothing new really.
Don't get me wrong, Gears was a good FPS. Probably one of the better ones I've played not named 'Call of Duty 4'.Jumplion said:
But it's just a shooter with a canned 'aliens invade earth' type story and a gimmick (the cover mechanic, which did redefine cover mechanics). But really, was it any better than Prey?
Anyway, I agree with Crap_HaT, it changes nothing, and if CliffyB wants to knock Kojima, he can go ahead and try. That's like me knocking Tolstoy because I think this post is way cooler than War and Peace. MY post even has l33t speak! PWND!!!1 Take that, Leo!
I'm frankly don't care what he had to say. MGS4 fans get to enjoy their game, and GeOW fans get to feed into their need to shoot ugly sub-terrain alien things while hiding behind conveniently-placed slabs of concrete. In the end, is one game affected? Like a few others have said, this is just one man's opinion, so dismiss it as such and move on.
