COD: Why all the hate?

[Nazulu]

The length is around 4-8 hours. The game isn't a free roam! You can't just add in missions! Each mission is important to the plot and timeline. The games are large, prove me wrong. The fanbase is looking for a lot special. Like for instance, I'm looking forward to the new features, the strike packages, game modes, story lines, gun levels, point streaks... There's quite a bit to be excited about. The customer doesn't deserve anything. The customer can either buy their product, or not. The opinion of a random person is NOT the responsibility of the developers. The people complaining aren't a factor. The people that actually played the game and brought up points about its faults are a factor. You know what those people are called? Experienced. As in: Not people that decided CoD sucks and left it at that.

The plot isn't so complex to add in extra missions, I've played them so I know. The game is roughly 4-8 hours you say, that's pretty small (especially 4 hours, jeez). The features you just mentioned can also be expanded on.

Now for the second half of your paragraph. It has nothing to do with what people deserve. I'm complaining and comparing how much you get for the price and that I'm disappointed in how safe they're playing it. Telling me I can buy it or not has nothing to do with anything either. If I believe they aren't being fair then I'm gonna share my opinion no matter how many people dislike it. As for experiencing it, you think I can't quickly look through it all over the net? This place has everything, I'm aware of it all.

My opinion is not gonna do much by itself like I said, but when in large groups, not only will they hear it all but they will eventually have to defend themselves to keep a good image or make changes (and they do). Since they are trying to defend themselves, it has become a factor to them.

 

[Randomperson9999999]

they release the same game each year

 

[akfg666]

I don't hate the games...I hate the 12 year olds who play them

 

[Jandau]

I can only speak for myself, not for everyone else. I dislike the CoD games. Not because they're popular, but because I don't like them. I found both Modern Warfare games (and Black Ops) to be boring in the single player. In MW2 I nearly fell asleep during the Russian invasion of US. The mission was so pointless and the objectives so arbitrary that I was starting to wonder what the hell I was doing there. Add to this that I don't really care for the modern military setting, that I dislike the multiplayer environment of online shooters and that I'm a bit fed up with FPS games (I don't hate them, I've just been playing them for a while now and they are all the same) and you get the end result of me not giving two shits about CoD. You're welcome to like it, I just think they're overrated pieces of poop with high production values.

 

[sheah1]

For me, as hipsterish as it sounds, it's because it's so popular. Now hear me out, and technically it isn't even COD's fault: People will always play COD, no matter their skill level, so there's always someone better, or someone worse than you, and you can always count on knowing people who own it. But on a game like Street Fighter IV or Marvel Vs Capcom 3, they aren't as popular to the mainstream audience so the only people who still play them are the people who played from the start and therefore are either master fighters or master douchebags (hitting you once then staying as far away from your opponent as possible is pretty common). So now, when I try to play online games that aren't COD, I constantly get my ass kicked, if I can get a game at all.
I guess then that it's not really entirely down to COD, since it could happen to any game that's popular enough, but because COD has such a simple, stupid formula that never innovates (after 4 of course) it's just sort of compounded.

 

[natster43]

Well, people here hate it because it isn't Valve. That and the main campaign is extremely convoluted(for MW2 at least), the multiplayer is systematic and hectic, as well as it being extremely goofy if you think about it. People running full sprint with snipers and 2 two-handed shotguns, people jumping off roofs, not taking damage and teleporting with knives in paintball set styled battlefields all while being able to get nukes. Personally I like the Campaign, and kinda loathe the multiplayer, but I find it fun every few months.

 

[karloss01]

The game has become simply monotonous, with every release nothing really changes they just add you it and don?t think of changing the base game play to accommodate the additions. Best example for of this is when MW2 came out, the maps were larger but the team sizes remained the same which turned the game into hid and seek on death match modes. In addition the amount of air support added with the lack of cover from it made it mandatory for the cold-blooded perk, even then chopper gunner could still see you since its controlled by a human.

The amount of hand holding has gotten ridiculous, back in COD4 and WAW it wasn?t so easy to pick up and play and with the lack of kill streaks they had to actually rely on their weapons (or grenade launchers). Now in black ops you get a remote controlled car strapped with C4 for only three kills, not to mention you can save these up and then unleash a swarm of them into the enemy lines. Hand holding may be good from a business point of view (easier to get into the more purchases it will get) but defiantly not from a gamer point of view.

Because of hand holding most games consist of people that barely know what they are doing with all the ?hardcore fpsers? usually in a single party, meaning its usually pretty one sided fights occur without any chance of retaliation (lets face it no game chat is ever about tactics, unless it is with friends or a miracle has occurred).

I stopped playing COD a week after getting black ops; it felt so similar to MW2 that I got no fun out of it. The only difference to game play I felt was the kill streaks got more ridiculous (though I was thankful the nuke didn?t return).

tl;dr?

You know the abbreviation SSDD (Same Shit Different Day) well COD is SSDR (Same Shit Different Release).

 

[Realitycrash]

It's the fanbase, specially the kind that need to make threads defending CoD from hate, that annoy me about CoD.
Same goes for Halo.
And MW.
Etc.

 

[silverbullet1989]

because they go and do things like this
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.319567-Modern-Warfare-3-Dedicated-Servers-Leave-Out-the-Leveling-Up

 

[Michael Hirst]

"This thread again etc"

COD is stagnant, it does not move from where it is, instead content with being the same game every year and increasing in price with more and more DLC also at higher prices, to get MW3 and be on COD Elite for the year will cost £75 if you're lucky and £85 if you're not, too much investment for such a bland game.

 

[Leadfinger]

Why all the "COD:Why all the hate?" threads?

 

[Neocavo]

i personally dont like it because:

its poorly PC optimized

its geared way to much towards console

the DLC is rubbish and costs as much as an Indie game which is fun

activision milks the absolute hell out of it, seriously $89 for modern warfare 2? thats how much i paid on release day

you cant boot people from matches

all the guns of a certain arch-type are just re-skins of each other

the kill streaks are either crap or game breaking

the only innovation CoD has brought to shooters is kill streaks and leveling and fuck i hate them for it, i dread the next Unreal Tournement....if i have to level up to use the flak cannon and i can only hold 2 guns imma lose mah shit

 

[LastHour1]

I don't think anyone actually "hates" Call of Duty. I think people just say they do because it's the cool thing to do.

There. I said it.

Bear with me, for just a second here! Let's use a bit of simple logic. Each CoD game since CoD4 breaks sales records. How is that possible if so many people hate it? Surely, most people wouldn't drop $60 on a game that they know for a fact they will not enjoy!

In the end it boils down to this: No matter what the majority of people say, they're going to own and play Modern Warfare 3 on launch day, just like what happened two years ago with Modern Warfare 2.

 

[Nazulu]

I don't think anyone actually "hates" Call of Duty. I think people just say they do because it's the cool thing to do.

There. I said it.

Bear with me, for just a second here! Let's use a bit of simple logic. Each CoD game since CoD4 breaks sales records. How is that possible if so many people hate it? Surely, most people wouldn't drop $60 on a game that they know for a fact they will not enjoy!

In the end it boils down to this: No matter what the majority of people say, they're going to own and play Modern Warfare 3 on launch day, just like what happened two years ago with Modern Warfare 2.

Yeah, a lot of people share this belief, but there are more gamers in the world than you think and more than half dislike COD (probably even under a quarter), you can definitely say that for every other game as well.

And people will indeed drop $100 even just to get something they're addicted to with out even caring if it's good condition or not. Hell, I know a couple of people that will buy any game and console if Link from Legend Of Zelda or anyone looking similar is on the cover.

Also, will you stop flipping generalising everyone you disagree with saying "it's the cool thing to do" and look at the comments here. I'm pretty sure more than half the arguments hold some merit to them. I swear, it's like some COD fanboy's ignore all the complaints and thinks they know what they're actually thinking.

 

[42]

its not because it's popular, alot of haters of COD play halo and battlefield which are just as popular.

the thing is, COD has somehow made it self and all its bad AI, shitty gameplay, bad story lines, forgettable characters, poor mechanics and engine (60 frames a second are not worth a thing if its bugged out the ass), and terrible multiplayer has somehow became the standard and had HALTED innovation from other games. Its like the Transformers movies which have lowered the movie goers standards which has the effect of lower the filmmakers quality to just "good enough".

and lets be honest, almost every mechanic Modern warfare and latter COD games have used were done in battlefield and halo before them and ten times better.


Also, can they go a single game without re-enacting whole movie scenes?

Name one movie scene they re-enact besides The Deer Hunter in Black Ops.

OT: Look people hate CoD because it's popular. they don't understand why it's popular, when it's a game with simple mechanics, varied gameplay in the campaign, and being reasonably fun all round. but the other reason is because there is a select group of people always looking for innovation. We've now reached a point where innovation has become meaningless. ohh a physics engine and the textures look real. So fucking what? it's now become that innovation is more important, and it taking away from the importance of gameplay. everyone wants the graphics to be perfect. nowadays with graphics being what they are, it'd take real effort for a game to look like arse. So what if CoD's not re-inventing the wheel, it's fun enjoyable, and most of all knows what it is. a game. Battlefield 3's multiplayer knows what it is. as for it's campaign not so much. Saint's Row is another thing that is aware of what it is. pure mindless fun.

 

[Jegsimmons]

its not because it's popular, alot of haters of COD play halo and battlefield which are just as popular.

the thing is, COD has somehow made it self and all its bad AI, shitty gameplay, bad story lines, forgettable characters, poor mechanics and engine (60 frames a second are not worth a thing if its bugged out the ass), and terrible multiplayer has somehow became the standard and had HALTED innovation from other games. Its like the Transformers movies which have lowered the movie goers standards which has the effect of lower the filmmakers quality to just "good enough".

and lets be honest, almost every mechanic Modern warfare and latter COD games have used were done in battlefield and halo before them and ten times better.


Also, can they go a single game without re-enacting whole movie scenes?

Name one movie scene they re-enact besides The Deer Hunter in Black Ops.

OT: Look people hate CoD because it's popular. they don't understand why it's popular, when it's a game with simple mechanics, varied gameplay in the campaign, and being reasonably fun all round. but the other reason is because there is a select group of people always looking for innovation. We've now reached a point where innovation has become meaningless. ohh a physics engine and the textures look real. So fucking what? it's now become that innovation is more important, and it taking away from the importance of gameplay. everyone wants the graphics to be perfect. nowadays with graphics being what they are, it'd take real effort for a game to look like arse. So what if CoD's not re-inventing the wheel, it's fun enjoyable, and most of all knows what it is. a game. Battlefield 3's multiplayer knows what it is. as for it's campaign not so much. Saint's Row is another thing that is aware of what it is. pure mindless fun.

List of movie COD has referenced or copied:

COD Finest hour: enemy at the gates.
COD Big Red One: big red one.
COD4: Apocalypse Now, Black Hawk Down, Many references to the Alien Series
COD WAW (best campaign of all the games after 4): enemy at the gates again, thin red line, ect
CODMW2: the rock, red dawn, many tom clancy stories

just to name a few.
and i didn't play black ops because i already knew i wouldn't like it because i just hated MW2.

i wish they go back to COD 1 and 2 were you had health packs, semi decent ai, nice settings, interesting characters that made you sad when they died, and guns that sounded like actual guns!

and no, i don't hate games for being popular, i have given my reasons for disliking it. Has anyone thought that maby COD as a game series is just getting stale and is a bad influence on the game market? And maby you think COD is fun, personally i think COD would be fun if it wasn't so repetitive and some many games copy it's tired format. Hell some games copy cod and do it better. And some just did it before COD even thought twice of it.

 

[Aprilgold]

Because its all hype and no substance.

Hey, it's that thread again... No idea why I keep coming back...

OT: For me, I hate it for what it represents. A dead end. It's just releasing the same gameplay, same weapons, same everything with such bare updates that you could fit in a patch, then have the guts to charge full price for the game and then even more for the 11 million map packs they sell and now they charge for bloody stats tracking? Something that's been free for every other online shooter?

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have heard nothing about mw3 and are just talking out of your ass. Or well never really played a CoD game for more then twenty minutes. Because if you have you got to be pretty dam delusional to actually believe any of the bullshit you wrote.

Madam or Sir, with all due respect, a critic looking at Call of Duty in general is a new born FPS. What does this mean? Well, simply put, every CoD game is so super simplistic that a new born could pick it up. Lets point out flaws, one, it has no style to it, look at Battlefield 3, that is what it should look like. By style, I mean if its a serious shooter, put in a dark, depressing feel. Second, much of Online is just about getting medals, OH LOOK, YOU BEAT THIS LEVEL, YOU GET THIS SHINY BADGE TO WEAR! Schrodinger would be very happy to see his work being used so much. And lastly, it lacks creativity. Each and every new CoD boasts one new mechanic, and none proceed that number. And many changes are small and don't fix the broken, laid back mechanics.

Overall, its a shooter thats just lazy with its design, can't be bothered to fix its glitches, balance itself or to add anything really new. I'm going to use this argument to my advantage, Mario, with each and every iteration creates a brand new experience and never is the same as the last game. Sure they carry similarities, but its never the same experience.

Theres so much wrong with CoD, but everyone is blinded by Fandom, as you are, which is just true, I am blinded by love of how innovative Indie games are, but thats because they actually manufacture fun instead of GENERIC SHOOTER 30030 WITH NEW EXPLODING MIDDLE EASTERN BABY GUN 23!

 

[v3n0mat3]

I actually like the CoD games. Hell, I like most shooters. Half Life, TF2, Halo, Gears of War, to name a few.

 

[Vankraken]

Insert one or more of the following

Single Player story is trash
Non existent learning curve
Absurdly ridiculous game mechanics for a game based on being "inspired by real life"
The constant re-release of the game game on a yearly basis
Lack of proper PC support
Player base of raging ADHD 12 year olds and adults who act like they are ADHD 12 year olds (which is worse?)
DLC that is horrifically overpriced and lazy (maps from the previous games)
Buggy gameplay
Other (create your own and wonderful reasons to hate CoD)

Personally while i think the above is true, the big issue i have with CoD is how it sets a bad example of how to make video games and holds the industry to a lower standard. People can play what they want but because of its "success" it tells all the other developers that you need to make near future FPS games that spray gold stars at the player to make major profit.
Unfortunately even if I personally do not buy or play another CoD, as long as people buy millions of copies of this crap on a yearly basis it will impact the types of titles that get funding and as such we see more games that are similar to CoD and less games that are different.

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

I'm just tired honestly. I enjoy CoD as much as the next guy but I'm just tired of a playing a game only designed to last for a year. I want something to invest in for years rather than just a single year. And because they only are made to last a year, they have never taken the time to fix anything that is not completely game breaking.

If the balancing is not right at launch nothing will change because the next one comes out in a year.

I do not hate CoD, or its developers I just hate activision for mandating a yearly release. Even if it was the same engine roughly I want to see another leap like the one from CoD2 to MW1. If activision would just give it a rest for even just 1 year than I would love to see if the franchise do something different.

I just want to see a change in the business model.