CoD: World at War Zombies

[RedRockRun]

Does anyone still play this game or want to again? I never bothered with Zombie Mode but have recently decided to give it a shot starting at the beginning. If anyone's interested add me on Steam: RedRockRun

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I tried say 6 months ago. Couldn't find a single game. Moved on to Space Marine and even 2 years since launch I can, on average here, get 1 match a night.

But no, World at War Zombies is 100% dead.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Man, I loved it on Xbox.
Zombies mode probable made up for 1/3 of cods sales.

If I had it on PC I'd totally play with you.

 

[RedRockRun]

I just can't solo this. >.<

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Zombie mode is certainly better with friends, three others if you can manage it. Because the dialogue between the characters--at least, once the characters show up and you're not just playing as Marines--is part of what made the game mode so much fun for me.

Sadly, I don't have it on Steam. I only have the PS3 one. But you're right, doing it solo is pretty freaking hard. And not really all that fun.

 

[Evonisia]

Sadly, I don't have it on Steam. I only have the PS3 one. But you're right, doing it solo is pretty freaking hard. And not really all that fun.

Hey, Shi No Numa is a blast on Solo, easily the best map out of the World at War offerings.

...but I don't know whether OP has the DLC, not that I'd be able to help out sorry ;-(

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I play it on the PS3 more or less frequently. Online is very much alive.

 

[RedRockRun]

There is so much story to this. I more or less ignored Zombies in W@W, so when I tried Kino der Toten on Black Ops, and an intro cinematic started talking about time travel, I was kind of floored and felt bad for not knowing what the hell was going on.

I looked up some things on the wiki, and there seems to be so much story coming in the form of easter eggs. Are these easter eggs obvious? The ones in BO2 have so many parts to them, and I normally think of easter eggs as being hidden.

 

[CpT_x_Killsteal]

WaW did CoD Zombies the best I think. Hell, it did CoD co-op the best. It's still alive on some of the consoles I'm fairly sure. With PC, I think people are playing cracked, versions of CoD4 with zombies. I certainly never did that though, and it certainly was not fucking amazing.

In all seriousness, if you're wanting some fun with CoD on PC, you're going to have to search for server IPs. Just google "(Insert cod) servers" or something. With a bit of research you'll find some servers. You may need to download a cracked version from a torrent site to access some of them though (not that I'd recommend illegal activity *wink wink nudge nudge*). It's gonna take some work, but you'll find some seriously sick stuff.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Sadly, I don't have it on Steam. I only have the PS3 one. But you're right, doing it solo is pretty freaking hard. And not really all that fun.

Hey, Shi No Numa is a blast on Solo, easily the best map out of the World at War offerings.

...but I don't know whether OP has the DLC, not that I'd be able to help out sorry ;-(

Hey, I agree! At least on Shi No Numa being the best. That map gave me chills. The atmosphere there is just...whoo. Wish more games, horror games, could capture that.
What I meant by it not being fun is that I played with friends, and we had head sets. Listing to each other freak out, laugh, and beg desperately for help was just a blast. Playing by myself after that, or playing with strangers, just wasn't as fun. Plus, it got kind of boring after round fifteen or so, because nothing new would happen.

There is so much story to this. I more or less ignored Zombies in W@W, so when I tried Kino der Toten on Black Ops, and an intro cinematic started talking about time travel, I was kind of floored and felt bad for not knowing what the hell was going on.

I looked up some things on the wiki, and there seems to be so much story coming in the form of easter eggs. Are these easter eggs obvious? The ones in BO2 have so many parts to them, and I normally think of easter eggs as being hidden.

My good sir, you have opened a can of worms, worms with me. The storyline in Zombies is, to me at least, brilliantly told, because it mimics the Half-Life series. It shows much more than it tells. Yes, there are radio transmissions that tell good chunks, but just as many details are hidden in the maps themselves.
And the way it ends is amazing. It seems that most people think the ending is a total cop out and crap, but I do not. It stays true to what has been hinted at since nearly the beginning.

To answer your question, no. No, the Easter Eggs are not obvious at all. I remember when I was doing one of them, I think the jungle one in Black Ops, and I asked, "How the heck do they expect anyone to figure this stuff out on their own?" to which my friend replied, "I think that's why they give you the walkthrough when the map comes out." These Easter Eggs are insanely complicated in some parts, and unless you have either A) complete pros on your team or B) friends who are willing to stick it out, you are not going to complete them. Trying to do them solo is literally impossible in some cases, as you need a second player, and trying to do them with random people who are just interested in playing for score won't work either.

Now, on to the big question: Do you want me to give you a rundown of the story? Fair warning, it's long. Very long. And I don't even touch the stuff that happens in Black Ops II except for the Origins map. I'm also not sure my story is entirely up to date anymore, but I can give you the beginning and the basics.

 

[RedRockRun]

My good sir, you have opened a can of worms, worms with me. The storyline in Zombies is, to me at least, brilliantly told, because it mimics the Half-Life series. It shows much more than it tells. Yes, there are radio transmissions that tell good chunks, but just as many details are hidden in the maps themselves.
And the way it ends is amazing. It seems that most people think the ending is a total cop out and crap, but I do not. It stays true to what has been hinted at since nearly the beginning.

At least in Half-Life you can take your time with things. Since zombies is one part tower defense and one part run and gun a la Serious Sam it's pretty hard for me to pick up on things without going solo and leaving one zombie alive at the end of a wave so that I can look around. I don't mean to bash the story however. Like I said, when I looked it up on the wiki for the first time after Black Ops came out it totally took me by surprise, and quite honestly with CoD so often admonished for hand-holding easy mode campaigns and 12 year old, 360 no scope, and frat bro-laden multiplayer, such a well-told story (told in such a passive way) is the last thing I would have expected. You do bring up a good point about Half-Life. That's one of my favorite narratives in gaming, and as a writer seeing such methods challenges me to be as minimalist as possible when it come to exposition - especially in an age where audiences are spoon-fed info dumps.

To answer your question, no. No, the Easter Eggs are not obvious at all. I remember when I was doing one of them, I think the jungle one in Black Ops, and I asked, "How the heck do they expect anyone to figure this stuff out on their own?" to which my friend replied, "I think that's why they give you the walkthrough when the map comes out." These Easter Eggs are insanely complicated in some parts, and unless you have either A) complete pros on your team or B) friends who are willing to stick it out, you are not going to complete them. Trying to do them solo is literally impossible in some cases, as you need a second player, and trying to do them with random people who are just interested in playing for score won't work either.

Again, this is why I really feel bad that I didn't give Zombies a chance the first go-around. I looked at several step-by-step walkthroughs on the wiki, and there was so much info there I felt like I was reading a raid guide for an MMO. As far as I know what Treyarch did is completely original. I don't think campaigns and survival modes have ever been mixed, let alone story-telling through easter eggs. I'm more than willing to slug these things out, hence why I bought W@W in the first place and re-installed Black Ops. I just wish there were more people willing to play them too along with putting up with a noob like me.

Now, on to the big question: Do you want me to give you a rundown of the story? Fair warning, it's long. Very long. And I don't even touch the stuff that happens in Black Ops II except for the Origins map. I'm also not sure my story is entirely up to date anymore, but I can give you the beginning and the basics.

Not really. It's not as meaningful to learn about the story just from reading it or even watching LPs. Treyarch put a lot of time and effort into creating this beast, and I feel like I'm obligated to at least trying to hear the story in the way it was originally intended. As far as what I remember from first looking at the wiki:

-There was a secret German program which is responsible for the zombies.
-There's a scientist who did experiments on his daughter's dog (poor doggy :C).
-There's a Left 4 Dead character dynamic between four survivors.
-There's time travel.
-There are ray guns.
-Something about Element 115.
-Der Riese has a teleporter.
-935 is printed all over Der Riese.
-Lastly, I saw a trailer for "The Giant" in BO3 which revisits Der Riese in which three of the characters confront a Dr. Richtofen who is about to step into what I guess is the teleporter from Der Riese. He's then killed by an alternate Richtofen. Some alternate universe? Richtofen from the past? How do you go from Nazi mad scientist to good guy?

So much to this thing! On one hand I'm on the edge of my seat, desperate to learn the breadth of this story, but I don't want to learn it through spoilers.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

-There was a secret German program which is responsible for the zombies.
-There's a scientist who did experiments on his daughter's dog (poor doggy :C).
-There's a Left 4 Dead character dynamic between four survivors.
-There's time travel.
-There are ray guns.
-Something about Element 115.
-Der Riese has a teleporter.
-935 is printed all over Der Riese.
-Lastly, I saw a trailer for "The Giant" in BO3 which revisits Der Riese in which three of the characters confront a Dr. Richtofen who is about to step into what I guess is the teleporter from Der Riese. He's then killed by an alternate Richtofen. Some alternate universe? Richtofen from the past? How do you go from Nazi mad scientist to good guy?

So much to this thing! On one hand I'm on the edge of my seat, desperate to learn the breadth of this story, but I don't want to learn it through spoilers.

Right (or close enough) on all points except for the last one. Obviously they are much more detailed and other pieces to the story, but that's the bones of it. Except for the last part. There is only one Richtofen, and he doesn't kill himself or anything. If you want to know how he went from Nazi mad scientist to...less so (because even in the end, he's still not exactly a good guy), I fear you will have to play the games. Or cheat and read about it.
And if you do decide to play the games, and somehow manage to find people willing to go through all the Easter Eggs with you, I suggest you read the plotline for each map after you complete it, because it is still confusing and you miss stuff while trying not to get overrun by zombies, because these Easter Eggs can last into the twenties in terms of rounds, and at that point, zombies everywhere.

EDIT: Also, if you want to see something really cool (and be really confused) watch the intro movie to the map 'Origins'. Awesomeness, pure and simple. Whatever you do though, don't want the ending video to 'Origins' though, as it spoils the whole thing.

 

[Evonisia]

And if you do decide to play the games, and somehow manage to find people willing to go through all the Easter Eggs with you, I suggest you read the plotline for each map after you complete it, because it is still confusing and you miss stuff while trying not to get overrun by zombies, because these Easter Eggs can last into the twenties in terms of rounds, and at that point, zombies everywhere.

Full disclosure to you both: You absolutely have to make sure that your team has done the same sides of the Green Run and Die Rise easter eggs (Richtofen or Maxis' side) to get an actual ending to the Buried easter egg, be it Maxis' or Richtofen's ending. It is one of the most heinous things I've seen done in the game mode.

To you specifically Sniper Team, Black Ops II is fairly straight forward. There's not a lot of story built in to the maps like in World at War and Black Ops, the story just comes from the easter eggs in Black Ops II with the exception of Mob of the Dead and Origins. Get Mob of the Dead, it's a self contained spin-off which is just absolutely brilliant both in story and gameplay, taking minor influence from Silent Hill as well.

 

[RedRockRun]

Right (or close enough) on all points except for the last one. Obviously they are much more detailed and other pieces to the story, but that's the bones of it. Except for the last part. There is only one Richtofen, and he doesn't kill himself or anything. If you want to know how he went from Nazi mad scientist to...less so (because even in the end, he's still not exactly a good guy), I fear you will have to play the games. Or cheat and read about it.
And if you do decide to play the games, and somehow manage to find people willing to go through all the Easter Eggs with you, I suggest you read the plotline for each map after you complete it, because it is still confusing and you miss stuff while trying not to get overrun by zombies, because these Easter Eggs can last into the twenties in terms of rounds, and at that point, zombies everywhere.

EDIT: Also, if you want to see something really cool (and be really confused) watch the intro movie to the map 'Origins'. Awesomeness, pure and simple. Whatever you do though, don't want the ending video to 'Origins' though, as it spoils the whole thing.

I REALLY want to play these things. Do you have any ideas for where to look for people?

And it's the survival aspect of Zombies that I think is counter-intuitive about also trying to tell a rich story. It's kind of hard to pay attention to the details while zombies are treating you like C-rations haha.

Also, I don't like being really confused unless I have a chance at eventually figuring out what's going on. It's a real punch to the self-esteem for me when I can't for the life of me understand what's going on.

By the way, what are your thoughts on the BO3 Zombies trailer? Having not paid much attention to the previous story and viewing it solely as an independent narrative, I was really impressed. The new story may not be as large as the previous one, given that one had three games to develop a plot, but I got the impression that Treyarch wanted to focus more on character depth. In that regard, I can't wait to play it. The dialogue in the trailer sounded top-notch, not to mention I <3 Ron Perlman and Jeff Goldblum.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I REALLY want to play these things. Do you have any ideas for where to look for people?

And it's the survival aspect of Zombies that I think is counter-intuitive about also trying to tell a rich story. It's kind of hard to pay attention to the details while zombies are treating you like C-rations haha.

Also, I don't like being really confused unless I have a chance at eventually figuring out what's going on. It's a real punch to the self-esteem for me when I can't for the life of me understand what's going on.

By the way, what are your thoughts on the BO3 Zombies trailer? Having not paid much attention to the previous story and viewing it solely as an independent narrative, I was really impressed. The new story may not be as large as the previous one, given that one had three games to develop a plot, but I got the impression that Treyarch wanted to focus more on character depth. In that regard, I can't wait to play it. The dialogue in the trailer sounded top-notch, not to mention I <3 Ron Perlman and Jeff Goldblum.

I'm afraid I don't know where to find people. I play on PS3, and there are usually enough people playing to start a match--plus, my friends still have the game, so if forced to, I can tell them to jump on. But PC, I've got nothing.

As for Black Ops III, I'm not sure. It looks good, and the dialogue is great for certain, but I'll be honest. I'm going to miss the original cast of characters. They played off of each other so well, and the new characters in Black Ops II just weren't up to snuff in my opinion. We shall see about these new ones, but I am certainly excited about it and ready to pick it up when it comes out.

 

[RedRockRun]

I'm afraid I don't know where to find people. I play on PS3, and there are usually enough people playing to start a match--plus, my friends still have the game, so if forced to, I can tell them to jump on. But PC, I've got nothing.

As for Black Ops III, I'm not sure. It looks good, and the dialogue is great for certain, but I'll be honest. I'm going to miss the original cast of characters. They played off of each other so well, and the new characters in Black Ops II just weren't up to snuff in my opinion. We shall see about these new ones, but I am certainly excited about it and ready to pick it up when it comes out.

At least there's an active community on Black Ops for PC. I've gotten some Kino groups without much wait. The only problem is that I suck at it, have no clue where the perks are without looking at a map, and the story still feels like a mystery.

I'm guessing from Richtofen's intro dialogue that the transporter in Der Riese transported everyone forward in time though I don't know exactly when. His dialogue is awesome though, how he randomly screams things haha. He mentions something about following a girl. I'm taking that's Samantha Maxis? Of course I only know who she is because I saw a bit about her on the wiki. Yet I don't remember her being mentioned at all in W@W Zombies. There's an office in Der Riese belonging to a Dr. Maxis, her father, but again I have no idea where these names are coming from. I feel like I could play every map and not get a bit of the story without combing through them, looking for radios and such.

Added to that, there are secrets in the computer terminal from Mason's interrogation room? Just how much is there in this game, and how did anyone figure it all out?