Colour Perception!

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Spoonius

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Colour perception in humans, as you probably know, is facilitated by cones [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell] within the human eye. Each cone detects a specific wavelength of light (red, green or blue) and then the brain interprets the combination of incoming wavelengths as a colour. Each cone can distinguish between about 100 hues, and so a human with three cone types (trichromacy) can see a million different colours!

This shit fascinates me.

Recently I've been getting into tetrachromacy (a fourth cone within the eye, only naturally occuring as a mutation in women [http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/health/some-women-may-see-100-million-colors-thanks-to-their-genes-450179/]), as well as the theory that humans are "blocked tetrachromats [http://neuronresearch.net/vision/files/tetrachromat.htm]" (ie., we have receptors able to detect incoming UV light in our eyes, but the alcohols in our lens absorb it to protect the retina).

Did you know that van Gogh is now theorised by many to have been partially colour-blind [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2194293/How-insight-Van-Goghs-vision-shape-understanding-colour-blindness--change-view-Masters-work.html]? And that his paintings look significantly different when viewed from the perspective of a colour-blind person?

Most interestingly of all... I've begun to realise that even in normal humans our perceptions of colour vary slightly.

Take my blueish-green kitchen floor for example. My sister keeps telling me that the floor is blue, or at least significantly more blue than green. But from my perspective... it's almost totally green. I can hardly see any blue in it at all.

So that got me thinking... are the green/blue cones in my eyes stronger/weaker respectively than hers? Or is what I perceive to be green simply different to what she would perceive it to be?

Does she classify what I would call green as blue? Or are we actually seeing totally different colours and yet holding them to the same predetermined standard (implying a physiological disparity)?...

I'd like to get the opinions and experiences of fellow Escapists! :)

EDIT: Really interesting site I found [http://www.diycalculator.com/sp-cvision.shtml]!

True colours:

Found here [http://www.skytopia.com/project/illusion/illusions.html#Eclipse%20of%20Titan].

Allows you to see "true" cyan, green and red respectively, colours that computer monitors cannot reproduce and that are rarely produced by natural objects. The chart on the right of each image demonstrates the limits of a computer monitor...

INSTRUCTIONS: Pick a test. Keep your head completely still and stare at the white dot within the circle on the left (2 minutes or more for best results). Then move your head backwards slowly.

The opposing receptor cones within your eye will be fatigued and you'll cut out colour pollution. :)






Optical illusion:

Found here [http://www.disinfo.com/2012/02/the-forbidden-colors-our-eyes-cant-see/].

Allows some people to see new "impossible colours [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_colors]", similar to the way the human brain perceives pink for example. The colours will be a combination of red/green and blue/yellow respectively, containing visible traces of both primary colours involved but not necessarily brown or green.

INSTRUCTIONS: Pick either the red/green or blue/yellow test. Cross your eyes and overlay the two colours, and a new colour may appear (hasn't worked for me though).

 

burningdragoon

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TopazFusion said:
That UV aspect fascinates me.
Certain animals and insects can see it, but we can't.

You know, the night sky looks pretty awesome in UV. Special cameras take photos of it, and change the wavelength to one we can see, resulting in stuff like this.
Wonderful language on that thing. "You very likely might have possible..."
 

SckizoBoy

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I'm colour-blind... quite badly as well.

For example:

TopazFusion said:
Can only see something other than sweet diddly fuck all in circle 1. Yay me for fuck'd brain, yiz?!

And there's this one type of topographical map that never fails to give me a headache (combination of orange/green).
 

TehCookie

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Here's a test for anyone curious: http://xritephoto.com/ph_toolframe.aspx?action=coloriq

OP, you need to have you and your friends take it and whoever gets the lowest score is right about your floor.

According to that I have great color vision, which is good since my normal vision is shit so at least I can tell the different blobs apart from their colors when I'm not wearing glasses.

EDIT: Well since everyone's sharing their scores mine was a 0, muwahahah you can't beat perfect! Well I guess chadachada123 wins for tieing.
 

Hoplon

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There is data to suggest that colour to a degree is interpretive rather than absolute in human vision. since the brain is effectively building a model of the world rather than showing a picture.
 

Soluncreed

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TopazFusion said:
That was cute. I din't read the bottom parts until I looked through all of them and that number 5 was looked at for a few minutes.
 

Jack and Calumon

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Flamezdudes said:
Dango said:
TopazFusion said:
Apparently I am a latent homesexual.

Good to know.
Same here man, wanna meet up? Maybe we can sort this issue out...
Oh man, me too. Can we make it like a 'get together'? I'm sure we can help one another greatly.

OT: I always think my cat can see things I can't, new colours, things like that. He'll look around at nothing, yet absolutely amazed at what he is looking at. Can he see things I can't see?

Are those things out to get me?

Calumon: No-one thinks it's weird when you look, listen and talk to me.

Jack: But you're real! :D

:D

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TehCookie said:
Here's a test for anyone curious: http://xritephoto.com/ph_toolframe.aspx?action=coloriq

OP, you need to have you and your friends take it and whoever gets the lowest score is right about your floor.

According to that I have great color vision, which is good since my normal vision is shit so at least I can tell the different blobs apart from their colors when I'm not wearing glasses.
I scored a 12 on that test. Is that good? There's nothing to compare it to.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
Flamezdudes said:
Dango said:
TopazFusion said:
Apparently I am a latent homesexual.

Good to know.
Same here man, wanna meet up? Maybe we can sort this issue out...
Oh man, me too. Can we make it like a 'get together'? I'm sure we can help one another greatly.

OT: I always think my cat can see things I can't, new colours, things like that. He'll look around at nothing, yet absolutely amazed at what he is looking at. Can he see things I can't see?

Are those things out to get me?

Calumon: No-one thinks it's weird when you look, listen and talk to me.

Jack: But you're real! :D

:D

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[HEADING=2]:D[/HEADING]

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Noooooo Jack you aren't crazy at all. Calumon is definitely real, maybe he can join us too to sort out our latent homosexuality. You know, very passionatly.
 

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A Satanic Panda said:
TehCookie said:
Here's a test for anyone curious: http://xritephoto.com/ph_toolframe.aspx?action=coloriq

OP, you need to have you and your friends take it and whoever gets the lowest score is right about your floor.

According to that I have great color vision, which is good since my normal vision is shit so at least I can tell the different blobs apart from their colors when I'm not wearing glasses.
I scored a 12 on that test. Is that good? There's nothing to compare it to.
You have to put in your age and sex in the box below for it to compare you to others. Though I think 12 is good across all demographics.
 

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TopazFusion said:
That UV aspect fascinates me.
Certain animals and insects can see it, but we can't.

You know, the night sky looks pretty awesome in UV. Special cameras take photos of it, and change the wavelength to one we can see, resulting in stuff like this.
I am secretly gay? Good to know.

I remember some letters as colours for example: orange (7) plus yellow (8) equals 15 Also guitars wailing sounds purple
 

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TehCookie said:
According to that I have great color vision, which is good since my normal vision is shit so at least I can tell the different blobs apart from their colors when I'm not wearing glasses.
Hehe, yeah. Same.
So shortsighted normally that I'll struggle to read the names of games on the sides of their covers from over a meter away [Its impossible for me. I end up just seeing the colour of the box and going "I think its 'x'".
However, I manage to score a 3 in that test, so I'm doing pretty well in the colour department. Yay for good colour vision :D
 

an annoyed writer

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TopazFusion said:
That UV aspect fascinates me.

Latent homosexuality here too... Well, I'm openly Trassexual, and I generally don't give half a shit what a potential partner has under the hood so... kinda accurate? Technically bisexual or pansexual in that regard, but still.
 

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TehCookie said:
Here's a test for anyone curious: http://xritephoto.com/ph_toolframe.aspx?action=coloriq

OP, you need to have you and your friends take it and whoever gets the lowest score is right about your floor.

According to that I have great color vision, which is good since my normal vision is shit so at least I can tell the different blobs apart from their colors when I'm not wearing glasses.
Well my score is 209, which means my colour perception is shite.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
TehCookie said:
Here's a test for anyone curious: http://xritephoto.com/ph_toolframe.aspx?action=coloriq

OP, you need to have you and your friends take it and whoever gets the lowest score is right about your floor.

According to that I have great color vision, which is good since my normal vision is shit so at least I can tell the different blobs apart from their colors when I'm not wearing glasses.
Well my score is 209, which means my colour perception is shite.
Look on the bright side, the grey/brown modern games probably look a lot better to you than they do to me.
 

chadachada123

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A Satanic Panda said:
Dango said:
TopazFusion said:
Apparently I am a latent homesexual.

Good to know.
That was the joke.

Apparently most males can't see different shades of red very well.

I feel pretty good about this, because I actually can see a difference between the two. My eyesight is one of my better senses, both in terms of color and distance/clarity.

TehCookie said:
Here's a test for anyone curious: http://xritephoto.com/ph_toolframe.aspx?action=coloriq

OP, you need to have you and your friends take it and whoever gets the lowest score is right about your floor.

According to that I have great color vision, which is good since my normal vision is shit so at least I can tell the different blobs apart from their colors when I'm not wearing glasses.
...as shown by this test. First attempt, got a perfect score, 0/99.

I mean, I took it several years ago, and I believe I got a 1 or 2, so I was expecting similar, but perfect? I even amaze myself sometimes...

(I have screenshots as proof, if anyone requires them)