Columnist Enlists Anonymous to Take Down Rapists

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Columnist Enlists Anonymous to Take Down Rapists

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A Canadian political heavyweight has called upon Anonymous to "name and shame" four teenagers accused of raping a girl who committed suicide last week.

17-year-old Rehtaeh Parsons of Halifax, Nova Scotia, committed suicide last week, 18 months after she was allegedly gang-raped by four boys and then subjected to a vicious bullying campaign spurred by a photo of the attack that was spread around her school by one of her attackers. "This day changed the lives of our family forever," her mother wrote in a tribute message on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Angel-Rehtaeh/352644484835299?fref=ts]. "Rehtaeh was suddenly shunned by almost everyone she knew, the harassment was so bad she had to move out of her own community to try to start anew in Halifax."

The RCMP investigated the attack but the boys involved were never charged, and while Nova Scotia Justice Minister Ross Landry requested a review of the case after the story made national headlines, it seems unlikely that the situation will change. That's led to a growing call for the involvement of online activist group Anonymous, including from high-profile Canadian political strategist, commentator, author and Liberal party heavyweight Warren Kinsella, who wrote an open letter calling on the group to "find out who the little bastards are."

In fact, Kinsella seems quite happy to take Anonymous off the leash altogether. "The RCMP, who allegedly investigated, are led in Nova Scotia by Alphonse MacNeil. He calls himself a 'consensus builder. and has two daughters. I'm sure you could find his email address if you needed to," Kinsella wrote [http://warrenkinsella.com/2013/04/an-open-letter-to-anonymous-about-rehtaeh-parsons/]. "The Nova Scotia government, which agreed with - and energetically defended - the RCMP's decision to do nothing about the rape or the child pornography, is led by NDP leader Darrell Dexter. Interestingly, he represents Cole Harbour in the provincial legislature. His email isn't readily available, either, but I know you'll find that, too."

"The names of the little bastards who did this, and who are still alive and walk free in Cole Harbour, are unknown to most of us. But, as in the Steubenville, Ohio case, I am certain anyone who is sufficiently motivated can find out who the little bastards are, and name and shame them," he continued. "I'm unclear how to appeal to you, Anonymous. But if there was ever a case that cried out for your attention - and if there were ever men like MacNeil, Dexter and Landry who deserved to be fired, or worse, for their pathetic responses - I don't know what it is. What happened to Rehtaeh and her family is so horrible, so evil, I am ashamed that it happened in my country."

Kinsella's involvement is noteworthy because he's not just some guy on the internet: He was a high-ranked adviser on the successful reelection campaign of Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty and until 2010 headed the "war room" of the federal Liberal party. His influence is such that he is known [http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/04/10/the-prince-of-darkness-is-back-in-the-liberal-fold/] in some political circles as the "Prince of Darkness."

Anonymous, of course, is well known for its ability to dig up dirt and stir up trouble, and is being sought as an executor of justice in this case in large part because of its involvement in a similar case in Steubenville [http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/03/steubenville-rape-trial-players/63020/], Ohio, in which the rape of 16-year-old girl by members of the local high school football team in 2012 went largely ignored until evidence, including police documents and a video made on the night of the attack, was leaked onto the internet.

Twitter users are spreading the call to Anonymous with the hashtag #warnings [https://twitter.com/search?q=%23opjustice4rehtaeh&src=hash] from the Nova Scotia RCMP, the group has responded with a statement saying it has already identified two of the four accused rapists and will soon have the other two as well, and that it will release their names to the public unless authorities take "immediate legal action."

"We do not approve of vigilante justice as the media claims. That would mean we approve of violent actions against these rapists at the hands of an unruly mob. What we want is justice. And that's your job. So do it," the statement says [http://pastebin.com/mwW6HLdv]. "The names of the rapists will be kept until it is apparent you have no intention of providing justice to Retaeh's family. Please be aware that there are other groups of Anons also attempting to uncover this information and they may not to wish to wait at all. Better act fast."

"Be aware that we will be organizing large demonstrations outside of [RCMP] headquarters," it concludes. "The rapists will be held accountable for their actions. You will be held accountable for your failure to act."

A Change.org petition [https://www.change.org/petitions/justice-for-rehtaeh-demand-an-independent-inquiry-into-the-police-investigation] calling for an independent inquiry into the investigation has so far attracted roughly 14,000 signatures.

Source: Huffington Post [http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/10/rehtaeh-parsons-suicide-anonymous_n_3052495.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008]

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I was wondering when something like this would happen. This will be interesting to see unfold as well. While I don't doubt this will get Anon to act, they will likely do something to Kinsella or his party as "payment" for the work.
 

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BabySinclair said:
I was wondering when something like this would happen. This will be interesting to see unfold as well. While I don't doubt this will get Anon to act, they will likely do something to Kinsella or his party as "payment" for the work.
Depends who takes the case. Anonymous has innumerable secs, many with differing ideology

Some consider themselves white knights & act more or less accordingly, others... we'll see
 

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I dont really think the stubenville kids are going to be shamed. What they did is awful, but that coach (last I heard and if I hear different I'll edit this) is still coaching and they went in there confident and sure he would make them get off with less (you can argue they were right/he was successful). HS football is huge there, just like college football in happy valley and the rage against those who even tried to bring paterno's name into the discussion. Im not saying they werent punished or anything, just they got off considerably well and if they stay there they'll likely be much better down the road of life than if they leave and try to start new out from under the coach's protective wing.

For this though... I dont know. Yeah its terrible they raped her, and yeah its sad she died, but I dont think bringing anon into this is the right way to about it. Anon themselves are questionable at best, and anytime they come in it always leaves someone miserable because they dont know/understand/practice holding back. So sure they could probably get the identities of these kids, but whats that going to do? They're going to be shamed maybe (I dont know their situation or how NS is but if its like stubenville they could be king hogs on the high hills and this could only inflate them more), and if by held accountable you mean "anon will tell news and leak it out ot he public where someone close may kill/brutally beat these kids" then sure.

And now they're more or less issuing a small vague threat against the mounties, and I cant imagine that's a good idea since the mounties can literally charge anywhere they want in the world and bring you to canada for justice (and I dont think canada is going to side with Anon if it comes to a war between them and the mounties and anon does not need to be known for attacking countries like canada [considerably less cool than attacking the US cause hey, its the US they TOTALLY deserve it]).

also:
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"We do not approve of vigilante justice as the media claims. That would mean we approve of violent actions against these rapists at the hands of an unruly mob. ...
sure you dont anon, sure you dont.
 

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Bringing in Anon is the worst thing you could possibly do in a situation like this. Any action that they could take will only make things worse.
 

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nignonymous said:
How do we know this chick really was raped?

For all we know she got drunk, let the crew hit it, and then felt bad about it the next day.

Calling for a witch hunt before getting all of the facts together is a terrible idea.
This a pretty disturbing post.
 

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If the kids did it (and I'm assuming they did as there seems to have been pictures and bragging circulating after the fact, and that never disappears), then I hope to hell somone names them and the kids get butchered. ... Take that however you want, by the by.

I also hope the people who swept it under the rug (officials) and those who recieved the pictures or knew about the event and said nothing also get taken to task.

In situations like this, I am all for the harshest punishment available. Which usually isn't quick.
 

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I'm a man who believes in "rule of law", maybe to a fault. So, to me, this call to vigilantism seems to be counteractive to the actual "justice" they seek. If their plan succeeds, they will simply be subjecting more people to the same kind of bullying that the original victim suffered through. Torturing terrorists doesn't make you a hero. It makes you a terrorist, too.

If you feel that some injustice has been committed, then work within the system. While I'm not completely familiar with Canadian laws, it seems that they should have some sort of legal process through which one can try to bring true justice to the criminals in question or at least work to prevent things like this from happening in the future. However, if you subvert the law to your own ends, you are indicating that the very justice you are seeking does not apply to you. It's incredibly hypocritical and not at all productive from a societal growth standpoint.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
And tell me, what happens when vigilante justice is the ONLY justice?
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ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?
Yeah, because teenage girls kill themselves all the time over ALLEGED bullying.
Teenagers do a lot of things that are really really short sighted. Not justifying anything done by any side but teenagers more often then not overreact significantly.
 

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Wow, didn't see that coming. No seriously, there is a reason that they say "Anonymous is not your personal army". Because they aren't. I'm just surprised to see that they are taking somebody up on their request for help, rather than finding dirt on their own volition.
 

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"We do not approve of vigilante justice as the media claims. That would mean we approve of violent actions against these rapists at the hands of an unruly mob. ...
Well, I do approve of vigilante justice and I would break into a pretty big grin if, following publications of their names, they turned up hanging from trees with their entrails loose.

What is it people think is so just about the state locking criminals away at an annual cost of between 25,000 and 44,000 pounds a year (speaking of England, and depending on the facility), courtesy of the taxpayer- which includes victims and their families? Especially when the emphasis of these facilities is on reform and not punishment.

The only means of acquiring justice in a country that has abandoned the death penalty is with your own hands.
 

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The Last Melon said:
nignonymous said:
How do we know this chick really was raped?

For all we know she got drunk, let the crew hit it, and then felt bad about it the next day.

Calling for a witch hunt before getting all of the facts together is a terrible idea.
This a pretty disturbing post.
Nignonymous said it rather crudely but he's right, we only have one side of the story here. While this and the Facebook post I've read strongly suggest it was a case of rape, we can't be sure of that until it's proven in a court of law. Incidentally I found the calls on Facebook for the accused to be hung, or for them and their families to be "run out of town" pretty disturbing, not least since Anon isn't infalliable and could well name some poor bastard unconnected to the case by mistake, or even maliciously.
 

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el_kabong said:
I'm a man who believes in "rule of law", maybe to a fault. So, to me, this call to vigilantism seems to be counteractive to the actual "justice" they seek. If their plan succeeds, they will simply be subjecting more people to the same kind of bullying that the original victim suffered through. Torturing terrorists doesn't make you a hero. It makes you a terrorist, too.

If you feel that some injustice has been committed, then work within the system. While I'm not completely familiar with Canadian laws, it seems that they should have some sort of legal process through which one can try to bring true justice to the criminals in question or at least work to prevent things like this from happening in the future. However, if you subvert the law to your own ends, you are indicating that the very justice you are seeking does not apply to you. It's incredibly hypocritical and not at all productive from a societal growth standpoint.
Look into the Youth Criminal Justice Act here in Canada... basically it means children under 18 do not serve time for almost nay crime committed. It's not what was intended with the act, but children who commit crimes in Canada basically get off scott-free. It's a horrible system and has allowed some children to abuse the system and the general population is basicaly held hostage by these kids. Some set fires to people's houses, are released a day or two later, and then go torch another house. Sometimes with people in it. And then they get let off again because they're children. And the cycle repeats. It happens for minor crimes, and even murders. And kids know they won't get in much trouble.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
And tell me, what happens when vigilante justice is the ONLY justice?
Alleged_Alec said:
ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?
Yeah, because teenage girls kill themselves all the time over ALLEGED bullying.
I'm not saying that they are free of guilt. However, unless there is conclusive/overwhelming evidence they actually did rape her, destroying their and their families' lives for it is unjust.

They are, on the other hand and in my eyes, fair game after it has been proven.

Candidus said:
"We do not approve of vigilante justice as the media claims. That would mean we approve of violent actions against these rapists at the hands of an unruly mob. ...
Well, I do approve of vigilante justice and I would break into a pretty big grin if, following publications of their names, they turned up hanging from trees with their entrails loose.

What is it people think is so just about the state locking criminals away at an annual cost of between 25,000 and 44,000 pounds a year (speaking of England, and depending on the facility), courtesy of the taxpayer- which includes victims and their families? Especially when the emphasis of these facilities is on reform and not punishment.

The only means of acquiring justice in a country that has abandoned the death penalty is with your own hands.
You're confusing justice and revenge there, mate.
 

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If they're guilty I hope they're outed. In Canada there is a stupid thing called the Young Offenders Act to give young people a second chance if they did something stupid. The goal is to protect their identities so things like petty theft and such don't haunt them for the rest of their lives. I agree with that.

Unfortunately, the YOA also protects the identities of these violent youths. Hell, they could be found guilty but wouldn't have to register as a sex offender as an adult.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
For this though... I dont know. Yeah its terrible they raped her, and yeah its sad she died, but I dont think bringing anon into this is the right way to about it. Anon themselves are questionable at best, and anytime they come in it always leaves someone miserable because they dont know/understand/practice holding back. So sure they could probably get the identities of these kids, but whats that going to do? They're going to be shamed maybe (I dont know their situation or how NS is but if its like stubenville they could be king hogs on the high hills and this could only inflate them more), and if by held accountable you mean "anon will tell news and leak it out ot he public where someone close may kill/brutally beat these kids" then sure.
There's no other way to go about it. They weren't charged; they got off Scott free. The girl got gang raped and committed suicide after being publicly humiliated; a brutal beating or death is almost too kind.
 

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IndomitableSam said:
el_kabong said:
I'm a man who believes in "rule of law", maybe to a fault. So, to me, this call to vigilantism seems to be counteractive to the actual "justice" they seek. If their plan succeeds, they will simply be subjecting more people to the same kind of bullying that the original victim suffered through. Torturing terrorists doesn't make you a hero. It makes you a terrorist, too.

If you feel that some injustice has been committed, then work within the system. While I'm not completely familiar with Canadian laws, it seems that they should have some sort of legal process through which one can try to bring true justice to the criminals in question or at least work to prevent things like this from happening in the future. However, if you subvert the law to your own ends, you are indicating that the very justice you are seeking does not apply to you. It's incredibly hypocritical and not at all productive from a societal growth standpoint.
Look into the Youth Criminal Justice Act here in Canada... basically it means children under 18 do not serve time for almost nay crime committed. It's not what was intended with the act, but children who commit crimes in Canada basically get off scott-free. It's a horrible system and has allowed some children to abuse the system and the general population is basicaly held hostage by these kids. Some set fires to people's houses, are released a day or two later, and then go torch another house. Sometimes with people in it. And then they get let off again because they're children. And the cycle repeats. It happens for minor crimes, and even murders. And kids know they won't get in much trouble.
Sounds like a mess. It also sounds like citizen's energy should be directed towards changing that particular law instead of assembling an internet hit squad to publicly shame just a few criminals who've brought this to light. Changing an unjust law is, in my opinion, how you get true justice for the victim. Anything short of that is just perpetuating a cycle of crime and hate.
 

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el_kabong said:
Sounds like a mess. It also sounds like citizen's energy should be directed towards changing that particular law instead of assembling an internet hit squad to publicly shame just a few criminals who've brought this to light. Changing an unjust law is, in my opinion, how you get true justice for the victim. Anything short of that is just perpetuating a cycle of crime and hate.
You also need to look into the Harper Government we've got going on... we seriously aren't a democracy anymore. That man has turned Canada into something else entirely. No laws will be changed unless Harper himself decides he wants them changed. He's literally passing things through parliament on his own whim that are destroying the environment, keeping immigrants out of the country, signing our mineral wealth (and other things) away to other countries, and.. yeah, I'm too angry to continue. He seriously, actually does things that are illegal and flaunts it to the public.