Community Watch: L.B. Jefferies.

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wilsonscrazybed

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I just like to say congratulations to [user]L.B. Jeffries[/user] on getting his blog noticed on Kotaku [http://kotaku.com/5109369/journalism-versus-criticism]. The article is quite interesting and well written.

Naturally, all of the journalists on that list are capable of analysis. Some of them mix a little bit into their work when no one is looking, others appreciate it like a fine wine and praise it when they see it. Some of them engage in it occasionally, but because their jobs require them to stay up to date with new games and constantly playing them they don't have the time to address older titles, much less reflect on them. They?re journalists, their bread and butter is reporting the facts. Some of them run private blogs and you can see them flex that intellect, but in terms of publishing it on a major website? Is Kotaku even allowed to write such a thing? MTV Multiplayer? Newsweek? Do their readers even want to see it?
Full article here: http://literatigamereviews.blogspot.com/2008/12/louder-than-words.html
 

zoozilla

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Nice article, and its always great to see an Escapist member's work recognised.

Especially for a member so iconic, so intellectually superior, just so great as the incomparable L.B. Jefferies.
 

wilsonscrazybed

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zoozilla said:
Nice article, and its always great to see an Escapist member's work recognised.

Especially for a member so iconic, so intellectually superior, just so great as the incomparable L.B. Jefferies.
Doubly great because we don't see many blogs featured on Kotaku.
 

Ralackk

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That was a good read and the commentary(critic?) on Monkey Island was even better. Never seen anyone go into that much depth about Monkey Island before but I just replayed the entire game yesterday in a single sitting and I can see what he's getting at.
 

Ray Huling

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L.B. is very close to being right. He's making his categories a little hard and fast. Journalism encompasses everything from newspaper reporting to criticism. The example he gives of a popular film critic, Pauline Kael, is really regarded as a journalist--as opposed to an academic. Kael never did scholarly work and wrote for a weekly.

But, yeah, these round tables of Names in Game Journalism are a bit silly. Look at the discussion that went on at Slate last week. There we have Real Names in Game Journalism--a circle even more exclusive than the Shawn Elliott one L.B. is skeptical of.

Yet, when Chris Suellentrop and N'gai Croal and the NYTimes game critic and a couple of other dudes swap e-mails, you end up with, essentially, a discussion about a few places in the year's top ten list.

Who gives a shit?

I don't know how anybody can get through compiling a Top 10 list and not feel like an asshole. And these are the guys a cut above Dan "8.9" Hsu! I can't even imagine what's going to happen in Elliott's exchanges.

So; L.B. is right to call for a different approach--and right to call for the approach he specifies. Let's make it clear, however: there's nothing all that new here. It's just cultural reporting and criticism.

This doesn't mean to say that any of the people involved in the Elliott symposium or the Slate round table do cultural reporting or criticism. The few of them who have done this sort of thing haven't done it often. For the most part, they're news reporters and reviewers who occasionally write editorials.

All of those occupations are fine, of course, but L.B. is right to point out that a discussion among them is hardly likely to lead to the sort of work he's talking about.

I mean: Christ, look at the comments section of the Kotaku article. Everybody ignores the point about criticism and starts talking about how to do good reviewing. Fucken, what does it take?!
 

L.B. Jeffries

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Thank you very much everyone, I'm stunned how much attention that thing is getting.

Ray Huling said:
L.B. is very close to being right. He's making his categories a little hard and fast. Journalism encompasses everything from newspaper reporting to criticism. The example he gives of a popular film critic, Pauline Kael, is really regarded as a journalist--as opposed to an academic. Kael never did scholarly work and wrote for a weekly.
Kael published several books on film, collecting both her own work and critical theories on film itself along with some withering attacks on other critics. In addition to her work with the New Yorker she ran a radio program and principally wrote about old movies or things outside the mainstream.

The comments on the piece dragged into a semantics argument about journalism vs criticism and I set myself up for it. If the word does indeed encompass all forms of cultural reporting, then I at least wanted to draw a line in the sand that people need to start crossing.
 

Ray Huling

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L.B. Jeffries said:
The comments on the piece dragged into a semantics argument about journalism vs criticism and I set myself up for it. If the word does indeed encompass all forms of cultural reporting, then I at least wanted to draw a line in the sand that people need to start crossing.
Yeah; I support that sentiment. I'm supporting it so much that I'm saying that the line has already been crossed.

Here's my real disagreement:

L.B. Jeffries said:
Naturally, all of the journalists on that list are capable of analysis.
I don't think so. If they had big ideas, we would have already seen them. We haven't, which leads me to think that, no matter how much they blab at each other, they're not going to come up with anything new.
 

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wilsonscrazybed said:
I just like to say congratulations to [user]L.B. Jeffries[/user] on getting his blog noticed on Kotaku [http://kotaku.com/5109369/journalism-versus-criticism]. The article is quite interesting and well written.
actually i do believe he's been mentioned a few times already on kotaku, not to make this mean anything less