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Stoic raptor

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Private Custard said:
You can get an upgraded cooler for very little now. It's only when you start getting involved with liquic cooling and the like that it gets really costly.
what is considered "little"?
if its under $20, I could ask for it.

If its above, it would become much harder.
 

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A brief search led me to these -

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166460?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191842?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/home/product/22871/Akasa-Vortexx-VGA-Cooler-Lo-Noise-ATI-and-Nvidia?source=googleps

Do a google search for GPU coolers and then hit the 'more shopping' link on the left. The above links are just an example of the sort of prices you're looking at, you'll need to make sure of compatability with your card.

Also, from what I've learned over the last week, some games are really heavy on the CPU too (like FSX), so you could look at upgrading the cooling on your processor also.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Scythe-KATANA-SCKTN-3000-Processor-nickel-plating/dp/B001R34QBS/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1284808111&sr=1-8

Just make sure your case has enough room as some of these aftermarket coolers are absolute beasts!
 

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Stoic raptor said:
Private Custard said:
Stoic raptor said:
Forgot to quote you, so you'd know I'd replied!!
But i didnt get a message.
Balls, something's gone odd!

Anyway, if it's cheap cooling you're after, there are hundreds of options. And if you come into some money, there's always liquid nitrogen cooling.

Years ago, I saw someone overclock a 900mhz processor to around 3gig+ by using a combination of cooling methods, including a styrofoam cup of liquid nitrogen sitting right on top of the processor!!
 

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Stoic raptor said:
Is this a problem? The card will have a fan, but should a get a cooling system anyway? Should I get a cooling system even without the card?
Wait and see if you need it. AMD cards don't run very hot, and if they do you can downclock them in CCC. Extra cooling on videocards are very fiddly and not necessary for anyone except hardware overclocker enthusiasts.

My HD4870 peaks at 96C when I set it up for maximum overclock (in CCC, mind you) and it's rated for up to 115C (I think, didn't look it up).
 

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Stoic raptor said:
I'm going to get a new video card. Nvidia Geforce GT 240. I plan to get it from Best Buy for $109.99.
The full name is
Galaxy - NVIDIA GeForce GT240 1GB PCI Express Graphics Card
Here are the basic specs:

Product Features


Powered by the NVIDIA GeForce GT240 graphics processing unit (GPU)
For high-quality graphics power.

1GB memory
Delivers visual realism.

PCI Express interface
Along with a core clock speed of 900MHZ (1800MHz effective) for high-speed processing.

NVIDIA unified architecture
With NVIDIA CUDA technology for extreme processing and enhanced efficiency.

NVIDIA Pure Video HD technology
For clear, detailed graphics in high-definition.

DirectX 10 support
For enhanced gameplay.

Shader Model 4.1 support
Ensures compatibility with current and future gaming titles.

HDMI, DVI and VGA ports
For flexible connectivity.

Site from Best Buy:http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+-+NVIDIA+GeForce+GT240+1GB+PCI+Express+Graphics+Card/9715834.p?id=1218172864731&skuId=9715834

Site from Nvidia (compares other video cards with the one I want):
http://www.nvidia.com/object/graphics_cards_buy_now.html

I use 2 computers to play. One computer uses Nvidia Geforce 9100 (integrated graphics), the other uses Nvidia Geforce 8400 (I don't know the exact memory of both cards. I believe it is around 256 MB, definitely below 1GB)
They can run games like Team Fortress 2 at about medium to low settings, but games like Left for Dead 2 can barley run at minimum settings. The fps isn't that great either. I am asking because although I am sure I found the right card for me, I want to be absolutely sure. The Nvidia site said that the GT 240 is 18x better in gaming than the 8400 and computes 9x better (I am unsure about the 9100).

I want to get a new card because of my cousin. I tried his gaming computer (I believe it used an ATI Radeon 5750) and was blasted by awesomeness. I realized I needed an upgrade.
So is this card good? Should I absolutely wait for a better one? My budget is about $100, $150 if I have to.

TD;LR: Is the Nvidia Geforce GT 240 a good video card?
I have Geforce GT 240! It's all right and most new games work on it.
 

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Hateren47 said:
Stoic raptor said:
Is this a problem? The card will have a fan, but should a get a cooling system anyway? Should I get a cooling system even without the card?
Wait and see if you need it. AMD cards don't run very hot, and if they do you can downclock them in CCC. Extra cooling on videocards are very fiddly and not necessary for anyone except hardware overclocker enthusiasts.

My HD4870 peaks at 96C when I set it up for maximum overclock (in CCC, mind you) and it's rated for up to 115C (I think, didn't look it up).
I will not overclock. Because I don't know how and I don't think it should be necessary.
When I the card, I will clean the computer and and see how it is.
 

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BJ777 said:
Stoic raptor said:
I'm going to get a new video card. Nvidia Geforce GT 240. I plan to get it from Best Buy for $109.99.
The full name is
Galaxy - NVIDIA GeForce GT240 1GB PCI Express Graphics Card
Here are the basic specs:

Product Features


Powered by the NVIDIA GeForce GT240 graphics processing unit (GPU)
For high-quality graphics power.

1GB memory
Delivers visual realism.

PCI Express interface
Along with a core clock speed of 900MHZ (1800MHz effective) for high-speed processing.

NVIDIA unified architecture
With NVIDIA CUDA technology for extreme processing and enhanced efficiency.

NVIDIA Pure Video HD technology
For clear, detailed graphics in high-definition.

DirectX 10 support
For enhanced gameplay.

Shader Model 4.1 support
Ensures compatibility with current and future gaming titles.

HDMI, DVI and VGA ports
For flexible connectivity.

Site from Best Buy:http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+-+NVIDIA+GeForce+GT240+1GB+PCI+Express+Graphics+Card/9715834.p?id=1218172864731&skuId=9715834

Site from Nvidia (compares other video cards with the one I want):
http://www.nvidia.com/object/graphics_cards_buy_now.html

I use 2 computers to play. One computer uses Nvidia Geforce 9100 (integrated graphics), the other uses Nvidia Geforce 8400 (I don't know the exact memory of both cards. I believe it is around 256 MB, definitely below 1GB)
They can run games like Team Fortress 2 at about medium to low settings, but games like Left for Dead 2 can barley run at minimum settings. The fps isn't that great either. I am asking because although I am sure I found the right card for me, I want to be absolutely sure. The Nvidia site said that the GT 240 is 18x better in gaming than the 8400 and computes 9x better (I am unsure about the 9100).

I want to get a new card because of my cousin. I tried his gaming computer (I believe it used an ATI Radeon 5750) and was blasted by awesomeness. I realized I needed an upgrade.
So is this card good? Should I absolutely wait for a better one? My budget is about $100, $150 if I have to.

TD;LR: Is the Nvidia Geforce GT 240 a good video card?
I have Geforce GT 240! It's all right and most new games work on it.
Well every one else hated it. They wanted me to get a Radeon 5670
 

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Stoic raptor said:
I will not overclock. Because I don't know how and I don't think it should be necessary.
When I the card, I will clean the computer and and see how it is.
CCC, the Catalyst Control Center, has an automatic overclock set-and-forget option. It basically overclocks you card 5Mhz at a time, first on GPU and then on RAM until your card becomes unstable, and then rolls 5 MHz back. It means that your card runs at (an example) 500Mhz when you're on your desktop and overclocks to 850 MHz (in my case) when you open a 3D application like a game or other hardware intensive application. It's pretty easy and only takes 15-20 minutes to run through.
 

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Hateren47 said:
Stoic raptor said:
I will not overclock. Because I don't know how and I don't think it should be necessary.
When I the card, I will clean the computer and and see how it is.
CCC, the Catalyst Control Center, has an automatic overclock set-and-forget option. It basically overclocks you card 5Mhz at a time, first on GPU and then on RAM until your card becomes unstable, and then rolls 5 MHz back. It means that your card runs at (an example) 500Mhz when you're on your desktop and overclocks to 850 MHz (in my case) when you open a 3D application like a game or other hardware intensive application. It's pretty easy and only takes 15-20 minutes to run through.
Should I do it? How would it affect performance or temperature?
Im learning so much from this thread
 

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Stoic raptor said:
Should I do it? How would it affect performance or temperature?
Im learning so much from this thread
Yes. It will give you better performance when you play and conserve power when you don't. As I said it will stop clocking up when your card becomes unstable, for example because of heat, so it completely safe.

It's not a great overclock by any means but it's perfect for inexperienced users. And don't worry about your screen going stripy for the duration of the test. Just let it be until it's done. It can technically crash your computer, but if that happens it rolls back to your previous setting when you reboot. If you have 2 monitors you can follow the test on the second monitor but if you only have one you're gonna be stuck with the stripes until it's over.

Again it's completely safe. And for good measure, don't panic.
 

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Hateren47 said:
Stoic raptor said:
Should I do it? How would it affect performance or temperature?
Im learning so much from this thread
Yes. It will give you better performance when you play and conserve power when you don't. As I said it will stop clocking up when your card becomes unstable, for example because of heat, so it completely safe.

It's not a great overclock by any means but it's perfect for inexperienced users. And don't worry about your screen going stripy for the duration of the test. Just let it be until it's done. It can technically crash your computer, but if that happens it rolls back to your previous setting when you reboot. If you have 2 monitors you can follow the test on the second monitor but if you only have one you're gonna be stuck with the stripes until it's over.

Again it's completely safe. And for good measure, don't panic.
So for about 20 min, the screen will be stripy. If the computer crashes, will i have to redo the test? I only have 1 moniter though.
 

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Save up twice that and get yourself something really good. I bought a radeon hd 4870 about a year and a half ago and I haven't looked back. also you should try going to tigerdirect.com or newegg.com they are usually cheaper and you can compare proformance.
 

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Stoic raptor said:
So for about 20 min, the screen will be stripy. If the computer crashes, will i have to redo the test? I only have 1 moniter though.
Yes it rolls the settings back to standard or your previously working over/underclock if it crashes. It won't fry your card. I have never seen it crash, I'm just relaying what the pre-test screen tells me.

The extra monitor is just for watching the clock go from 700 MHz to 705 MHz to 710 MHz :)
 

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derdeutschmachine said:
Save up twice that and get yourself something really good. I bought a radeon hd 4870 about a year and a half ago and I haven't looked back. also you should try going to tigerdirect.com or newegg.com they are usually cheaper and you can compare proformance.
I dont have a job, so I have no stable way of getting money. Could even be up to a year before I get a job.
And buying online is not an option anymore.
 

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Silvance said:
If you have the money and really want to spring for a good card, get a GTX 400 series.
This.

I have a GTX 480 and it is nothing short of awesome.