I'm pretty sure the black bar was intentional (although I think originally the creators wanted to show Mohammed and had to make changes due to demands from CC) but the speech at the end that was bleeped out was definitely not supposed to be censored. The creators have said that CC censored a lot more on top of the censoring they had already put in, so some was intentional and some was not. Either way, they only showed the episode once in one country and will not allow it to be uploaded to the South Park Studios website. The Super Best Friends episode and the 200th episode have also been banned.Canid117 said:Based on the fact that Tom Cruise became censored near the end of the episode at the climax of his evil plans fruition and the fact that Mohammad has been visible in the intro songs movie for the past three years. I think the censorship was all part of the joke. Am i worng or did it just fly over a bunch of people's heads?
Oh good, I wasn't the only one that realised that.mindlesspuppet said:I think you and quite a few others missed the joke here. The big black censor bar was mocking that fact that Muhammad can't be made fun of, which is what the whole episode was about.Itzky2 said:Yea American here, They bleeped Muhammad when they said it and they censored him with a big black bar. I don't know about anyone else but South Park has been getting a little stale over the last few seasons.
Unfortunatly the speech at the end was actually about how nothing is safe from people talking about (hence why tom cruise got seen again) and nothing to do with mohammed. Comedy central beeped it out of fear of an angry responce. The creators wanted it uncensored and ironicly their end summing up was completly proven wrong by comedy central.Woodsey said:Oh good, I wasn't the only one that realised that.
Personally I thought the beeping was done on purpose, and this was just a prank. I mean they beeped the entirety of Kyle's speech!
The beeping wasn't done on purpose. I watched the episode online and there was no beeping at all. That black bar was still there obviously, since it is indeed part of the episode.Woodsey said:Oh good, I wasn't the only one that realised that.mindlesspuppet said:I think you and quite a few others missed the joke here. The big black censor bar was mocking that fact that Muhammad can't be made fun of, which is what the whole episode was about.Itzky2 said:Yea American here, They bleeped Muhammad when they said it and they censored him with a big black bar. I don't know about anyone else but South Park has been getting a little stale over the last few seasons.
Personally I thought the beeping was done on purpose, and this was just a prank. I mean they beeped the entirety of Kyle's speech!
Wasn't it simply part of the Joke? Tom Cruise too became Censored later.Maxman3002 said:The episode beeped the word Mohommed, Blanked his image and then put a consitent beep over the summing up that south park likes to do at the end of every episode. I had to download a torrent of the episode to see it (im not supporting piracy but there wasnt a lot of choice) The incredible amount of beeping was just over the top but to remove it completly from other countries scheduled programming is mad considering everything else that south park has gotten away withOutright Villainy said:Can someone tell me the whole story here? What exactly got censored? I couldn't see the episode, it was pulled where I live, and it's not on their website either. How bad is the censorship at play here?
Doesnt matter if you like or hate south park, I think its more a matter of if this sort of behaviour is the way we want tv to go?
You know that was part of the episode, right? They censored Mohammed on purpose.Itzky2 said:Yea American here, They bleeped Muhammad when they said it and they censored him with a big black bar. I don't know about anyone else but South Park has been getting a little stale over the last few seasons.
The black bar over muhummed was the joke and the episode ended with that bar being removed from over tom cruise showing that no-one was safe from jokes. But comedy central added the beeping over it all making it pointless because they showed that certain jokes arnt acceptable out of fear of responce.Kurokami said:Wasn't it simply part of the Joke? Tom Cruise too became Censored later.Maxman3002 said:The episode beeped the word Mohommed, Blanked his image and then put a consitent beep over the summing up that south park likes to do at the end of every episode. I had to download a torrent of the episode to see it (im not supporting piracy but there wasnt a lot of choice) The incredible amount of beeping was just over the top but to remove it completly from other countries scheduled programming is mad considering everything else that south park has gotten away withOutright Villainy said:Can someone tell me the whole story here? What exactly got censored? I couldn't see the episode, it was pulled where I live, and it's not on their website either. How bad is the censorship at play here?
Doesnt matter if you like or hate south park, I think its more a matter of if this sort of behaviour is the way we want tv to go?
This is basically my view all of the damn way.Jinx_Dragon said:Seconded...
Caving to death threats and terrorism makes these things a legitimate way to bring about political change. If it brings regular successes then it would be far more likely that others, on seeing such success will emulate these actions. Given how those who carry out these death threats are patting themselves on the back loud enough everyone can hear, that means a lot of people will come away with the realization that death and terrorism threats is the right way to go.
It is why you have to take the firm, but sometimes stupid, stance of not giving into demands. That doesn't mean you don't negotiate (on the world stage, not so much on satire TV shows), it just means you don't cower in a little ball the moment the threats begin to fly!
I don't even like south park that much, the show has more failures then those sweet gems of success, but damn it... it is a SATIRE show, it makes fun of EVERYTHING! I wouldn't have it any other way and if you ask me, the more shocking the better.
I'm thinking that myself. I've only seen the first of the two parter but here(in Ireland)the only cencorship was a black bar over Muhammad that said "cencored" and I thought that was intentional as part of the joke...Canid117 said:Based on the fact that Tom Cruise became censored near the end of the episode at the climax of his evil plans fruition and the fact that Mohammad has been visible in the intro songs movie for the past three years. I think the censorship was all part of the joke. Am i worng or did it just fly over a bunch of people's heads?
-cough- Mind sharing that torrent?Maxman3002 said:The episode beeped the word Mohommed, Blanked his image and then put a consitent beep over the summing up that south park likes to do at the end of every episode. I had to download a torrent of the episode to see it (im not supporting piracy but there wasnt a lot of choice) The incredible amount of beeping was just over the top but to remove it completly from other countries scheduled programming is mad considering everything else that south park has gotten away withOutright Villainy said:Can someone tell me the whole story here? What exactly got censored? I couldn't see the episode, it was pulled where I live, and it's not on their website either. How bad is the censorship at play here?
Doesnt matter if you like or hate south park, I think its more a matter of if this sort of behaviour is the way we want tv to go?