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Siyano_v1legacy

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either it video games, youtube, movies, tv shows or anything, my computer serve too much purpose for me and its getting really impacting in my life, I can't seem to find anything else. Everything else feel dumb and unfulfilling and not good enough. Because of the easiness and speed you can get "dopamine" release and fun so fast. Even my doctor don't really know what to tell me, all I hear is, when you are ready to start trying to stop we are gonna help or the only other thing they offer is a "forced" confinement in a place for a month (but you have to be seperated from everything, not willing to stop working or see friends...)

I don't think I can find anything here, but anyway I needed to vent
 

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Physical exercise, it sounds like you need it. Join a club and go. Do something physical regularly that doesn't involve machines. Be free of them.
 

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I think first and most important is that you need to find something else to do with all that time that's getting wasted on the computer. That's important because if you just go "cold turkey" on it with nothing to replace it with, you're going to condition yourself to associate spending time off the computer with being bored, which sounds kind of like where you are right now. This also helps to precipitate a change in attitude. If you have nothing better to do, you're more likely to feel like "Oh, well I've got nothing else to do today, might as well fire up Steam again", but if you do have other things you're going to eventually start to feel like "You know what, I've been on my ass all day neglecting that book/painting/gardening/whatever that I wanted to work on today, I should go do that."

Obviously something physical or manual, and ideally outdoors, is preferable. It need not be strenuous, but anything that involves a manual task or kinesthetic skill is what you want to look at. Anything with a strong social component (for reinforcement) is even better. Tabletop gaming could be one to look at, it provides entertainment and also opportunities to both build things and paint. Music lessons are something else you could do. Or volunteering at an animal shelter or citizen science program (example: http://sustainability.fnal.gov/ecology/prairie/volunteer.html).

Finally, there are time management programs like StayFocusd [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stayfocusd/laankejkbhbdhmipfmgcngdelahlfoji?hl=en] that help to push you away from the things that are draining so much of your time.
 

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You seem very self-aware of what's going on here. Honestly, that's a great sign because it's half the battle in and of itself. I agree with you, computers (for me it's video games in particular) are an incredibly easy way to be "rewarded" for actions which are, actually, very easy and where failure has no consequence.

However, the first thing is that "addiction" in this sense means compulsion, which is different to being "addicted" to alcohol or heroin. Detoxing (being "confined" in an environment where your consumption can be monitored and eventually eliminated) is a treatment for people whose bodies have become dependent on a substance like alcohol or hard drugs. What it does is allow their body to adjust to being without the substance, so they don't get very powerful or dangerous withdrawal symptoms and cravings.

So in your case, that isn't going to work.. firstly, because your "addiction" is purely psychological (which is not to downplay it, even with detox a lot of addicts fail to remain abstinent because of the psychological compulsion) and secondly because you can't completely abstain from using a computer. It's 2015, that's not going to happen. For this reason, I would strongly advise against enforced abstinance because it will not provide any permanent solution.

Honestly, rather than focusing on the addictive properties of computers, I would instead look at what it is about your meatspace life which isn't fulfilling enough. In this sense, the best "treatment" I could recommend would probably be some kind of psychotherapy. I don't know if that's a path you'd want, or be able, to walk though. It isn't quick and it certainly isn't easy.

In the short term, my strongest recommendation would just be to manage your time better. Ironically, this is actually something computers make incredibly easy. The basic principle here is that you should always be conscious of what you're doing and when you do do something fun it should be as part of a planned rest period, rather than simply because you have nothing better to do. Allocate fixed time periods for being on the computer and fixed time periods for not, and use alarms or timers to track how much time you spend on each.

A lot of people work on computers, which can cause issues if you're using a PC for work and keep getting distracted. For this, I'd recommend a good Pomodoro app. There are many free ones, and I find it to be a very useful motivational system.

Basically, what I'm getting at is that you can systematize life until it resembles a game. Like in a game, you often have to do stuff which is boring, repetitive or unfulfilling, but you can do it because of the promise of a reward around the corner. The only difference between life and game is that, in a game, the systems are laid out for you while in life you have to create them yourself, but you can apply much the same principles to both. Give yourself time to watch youtube videos or TV shows, or to play games, because it sounds like those are things you genuinely enjoy, but force yourself to earn it first knowing it will actually be better and more rewarding for the grind. Because as it is, it doesn't even sound like you're having fun so much as just killing time.
 

Siyano_v1legacy

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I appreciate your post evilthecat
I think I tried and tried, feel like its more than just addiction since its feel like anything else is not fun enough, always pushing back chores to crazy state until I have no choice, like waiting the last day to do groceries or laundry.
anything feel unfilling and hard to do and unconciously always choose computer, its easier, less work, less thing to think.
I guess I have to find a way to reprogram my brain to be able to vent on something else