Computer Build Help

[tthor]

I had posted a computer build in the past, but have since made some major changes to it, and am now bringing it to you guys to scrutinize and make sure I didn't screw up somewhere.

This build will mostly be used for gaming, web browsing, watching videos, photo editing, and heavy multitasking. At this time, I have little/no interest in overclocking. I want this build to have good longevity and upgrade-ability.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13933829

I will also be using my power supply and and graphics card from my previous upgrade (so I don't want to change those for a while)

Power supply: Antec BP550 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016

Graphics card: GeForce GTX 460 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130571

So, does my build look good? Is everything compatible? Will my 550watt power supply be enough?

 

[zuro64]

Every thing looks good to me, but i would suggest that you also invest in a more powerfull PSU (Power supply)!
Your system should be able to run with the PSU but there will not be any room for improvements and there will be a risk that you build might shut down because of power shortage!

Just my opinion!

 

[tthor]

Every thing looks good to me, but i would suggest that you also invest in a more powerfull PSU (Power supply)!
Your system should be able to run with the PSU but there will not be any room for improvements and there will be a risk that you build might shut down because of power shortage!

Just my opinion!

that was something I was thinking a lot about yesterday. As far as I could tell, 550 watts would be just enough to run this build, but that if I so much as upgraded anything on the computer, I would need to upgrade PSU..

Tho this is a fairly new power supply (only 3 months old), so I feel hesitant to upgrade it just yet,

If you aren't overclocking then I see no reason at all to pay for such expensive RAM.

This motherboard can utilize the full 2133 speed without overclocking, can't it?
From my research, its seems that 2133 does give noticeable increase in performance, (not much in gaming, but a good amount for multitasking), and I wanted to take full advantage of this motherboard

 

[tthor]

If you aren't overclocking then I see no reason at all to pay for such expensive RAM.

This motherboard can utilize the full 2133 speed without overclocking, can't it?
From my research, its seems that 2133 does give noticeable increase in performance, (not much in gaming, but a good amount for multitasking), and I wanted to take full advantage of this motherboard

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/toms-ultimate-ram-speed-tests,review-30648-15.html

"The results must look disappointing for the memory vendors, as the largest performance differences we found amount to 7-8% with DivX and WinRAR, while almost all other benchmarks and applications perform alike: a 1-3% performance delta cannot be noticed at all. Some games showed several per cent performance difference between low-latency high-speed memory and conventional high-latency average speed DIMMs. The synthetic benchmarks on the memory revealed even more differences, but these clearly aren?t very relevant in everyday life."

If you want to pay 100% more for a 8% at most increase in power then go right ahead.

The SSD will do far more for multitasking than the RAM could ever hope to do.

EDIT I find it hilarious you want to " take full advantage of this motherboard" and you aren't going to overclock.

Ok fine, I want to take full advantage while still being a coward about risking damaging computer hardware.. >_>

To be fair, it appears that this article is a bit outdated, (it cites DDR2-800 or 1066 as being the standard, even), so I'm not sure how relevant that is to the standard competition of 1600 vs 1866 vs 2133

Tho I'm not sure, 2133 doesn't offer THAT much above 1866, so I might still go for 1866

 

[tthor]

If you aren't overclocking then I see no reason at all to pay for such expensive RAM.

This motherboard can utilize the full 2133 speed without overclocking, can't it?
From my research, its seems that 2133 does give noticeable increase in performance, (not much in gaming, but a good amount for multitasking), and I wanted to take full advantage of this motherboard

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/toms-ultimate-ram-speed-tests,review-30648-15.html

"The results must look disappointing for the memory vendors, as the largest performance differences we found amount to 7-8% with DivX and WinRAR, while almost all other benchmarks and applications perform alike: a 1-3% performance delta cannot be noticed at all. Some games showed several per cent performance difference between low-latency high-speed memory and conventional high-latency average speed DIMMs. The synthetic benchmarks on the memory revealed even more differences, but these clearly aren?t very relevant in everyday life."

If you want to pay 100% more for a 8% at most increase in power then go right ahead.

The SSD will do far more for multitasking than the RAM could ever hope to do.

EDIT I find it hilarious you want to " take full advantage of this motherboard" and you aren't going to overclock.

Ok fine, I want to take full advantage while still being a coward about risking damaging computer hardware.. >_>

To be fair, it appears that this article is a bit outdated, (it cites DDR2-800 or 1066 as being the standard, even), so I'm not sure how relevant that is to the standard competition of 1600 vs 1866 vs 2133

Damage computer hardware? Don't be so naive, unless you max out the vcore or rub your hands all over the mobo you won't harm it. Just don't be stupid.

Here is a more recent article from 2011.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/4

"only the Euler3d fluid dynamics simulation enjoyed a substantial benefit from faster memory configurations. Video encoding and file compression ran a little bit quicker with higher memory frequencies and tighter timings, but most of our application tests showed little or no improvement in performance. Neither did the games, which only managed to squeeze a few extra FPS out of our fastest memory configuration."


Again it backs up what I say.

You are paying 100% more for a minor benefit and then display ignorance to overclocking. Give it up.

I don't care if you waste your money but the facts speak for themselves.

I'm sensing some hostility here so if I offended you, I meant no offense. I'm just stating the little bit I know, so that you can correct me on any misconceptions I might hold. No point in beating on the noob ._.

Heres where I found a lot of my information/statistics on different memory for this CPU,
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-best-memory-for-sandy-bridge/12

As far as that article says, only 1333 has a real performance drop as compared to the higher speeds, but speeds over 1866 don't offer a huge increase in performance

And I avoid overclocking at this time largely because I have never really done it before, and fear causing various issues or even frying hardware with my inexperience

Edit: Tho after looking over prices again, you do have a good point about the 2133 being especially expensive. I'll look for 1600 or 1866 ram,

 

[zuro64]

Ok here are my thought on your discussion so far:

-Expensive RAM? dude mine cost $200 roughly converted.

-You say that RAM speeds higher the 1866 doensnt give a huge increase in perfomance but it does give a increase.

-Having RAM and MOBO that's factory clocked higher is better since you can get more juice out of them without overclocking, meaning longer lifetime on the component!

-If your SSD is doing more multitasking then your RAM i would suggest upgrading them since a SSD is basically a big USB flashdrive wich are fast but no as fast a RAM!

-Overclocking does damage to your components even with great cooling, so in long term(3-5 years) it will decrease its lifetime alot, but in short term it will give a performance boost.

Also Matthew94, for not trying to convince tthor not to buy the RAM he gave in the opening post, you are really trying to convince him in my opinion! Just sayin

All and all I would go for 2133hz since i gives an extra year on the lifetime use! Considering how fast these components gets "old" with all the new and faster one's coming out every 6 months its worth the extra money now! Otherwise you will have to change them sooner and it will cost more money trust me!