Computer Improvement

[pokepuke]

An i5 will only has 4 processor streams, at least the one in my laptop only shows 4 cores in the system manager. I open up my desktops system manager and the i7 shows 8 processor streams.

It may not matter to games NOW, because developers are not writing software to utilize the extra processor streams, but you will find games in the future that will require 8 processor streams for optimized performance. (Hyper threading only increases the performance for software utilizing one or two cores, utilizing the unused processor streams to bump up the clock speed of one or two other cores, individual processor streams act as a completely separate cores providing even more processing power than hyper threading for software written to treat them as such).

You're extremely wrong on all that stuff. Even the terminology you're using for it is just plain weird. It's not what you think it is. Try clicking on that wikipedia link again and follow all the relevant terms to get a better picture.
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Well, perhaps its because I'm going a bit insane, but I decided to resurrect my old "If I was going to build a PC" Wish List. After putting everything together, the only things I still need are a compatible CPU, Motherboard and Case. But other than that, monitor, parts and programs have come in under $1,700 so far.

So I'll post a link to the list here, and I need a CPU, Motherboard and Case to tie it all together. (Ignore the games while you're on the list, since I won't be getting them with the system at the time I order).

PC Parts List [http://www.amazon.com/wishlist/36EC8TH5821QI/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go]

So doesn't that basically mean the Alienware bundle is overpriced? $2500 is extreme, especially for the mediocre parts you listed in your previous post.

 

[Paragon Fury]

An i5 will only has 4 processor streams, at least the one in my laptop only shows 4 cores in the system manager. I open up my desktops system manager and the i7 shows 8 processor streams.

It may not matter to games NOW, because developers are not writing software to utilize the extra processor streams, but you will find games in the future that will require 8 processor streams for optimized performance. (Hyper threading only increases the performance for software utilizing one or two cores, utilizing the unused processor streams to bump up the clock speed of one or two other cores, individual processor streams act as a completely separate cores providing even more processing power than hyper threading for software written to treat them as such).

You're extremely wrong on all that stuff. Even the terminology you're using for it is just plain weird. It's not what you think it is. Try clicking on that wikipedia link again and follow all the relevant terms to get a better picture.
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Well, perhaps its because I'm going a bit insane, but I decided to resurrect my old "If I was going to build a PC" Wish List. After putting everything together, the only things I still need are a compatible CPU, Motherboard and Case. But other than that, monitor, parts and programs have come in under $1,700 so far.

So I'll post a link to the list here, and I need a CPU, Motherboard and Case to tie it all together. (Ignore the games while you're on the list, since I won't be getting them with the system at the time I order).

PC Parts List [http://www.amazon.com/wishlist/36EC8TH5821QI/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go]

So doesn't that basically mean the Alienware bundle is overpriced? $2500 is extreme, especially for the mediocre parts you listed in your previous post.

It may be extreme, but for someone with no experience in the area, the dexterity of a drunken rabbit and the grace of a caffeinated rhino, $2500, particularly including a 3-year "If it so much as hiccups we'll replace the parts and put them in for you service", its a mighty attractive offer.

 

[Antari]

I'm not "building" it.

I will not ever build a computer, because I lack both the dexterity, grace and luck to do so.

Funny I know computer tech's who have been building systems for years who don't have any of those abilities either.

As a computer builder I can definately say I wouldn't build that system for you. Liquid cooling will likely give you alot more trouble than its worth.

 

[Cowabungaa]

It may be extreme, but for someone with no experience in the area, the dexterity of a drunken rabbit and the grace of a caffeinated rhino, $2500, particularly including a 3-year "If it so much as hiccups we'll replace the parts and put them in for you service", its a mighty attractive offer.

I didn't build it myself either, it just takes looking for a respectable (online) shop that offers assembly and a warranty. Price-wise you can't really get any worse than Alienware, well perhaps Apple. This store [http://www.mwave.com/mwave/index.asp] looks pretty decent. Or you can also look for pre-built machines with warranties.

By the way, why do you want a dedicated soundcard so much?

 

[pokepuke]

Are you serious? You are actually arguing with me that the i7 does not have 8 logical cores? I know poor people are ardent at defending their choice for choosing inferior tech, but you are a funny one.

I like how you're familiarity with the subject is to the point where you keep using various other terms in place of the official titles.

"8 logical cores" doesn't mean anything. It's not even "inferior" tech, it is a lack of that Hyperthreading tech, which a gaming machine doesn't need. It doesn't magically give you more processing power, either; there is still the same amount of transistors under the exact same architecture.
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It may be extreme, but for someone with no experience in the area, the dexterity of a drunken rabbit and the grace of a caffeinated rhino, $2500, particularly including a 3-year "If it so much as hiccups we'll replace the parts and put them in for you service", its a mighty attractive offer.

Spending an extra grand on a warranty is a bit much. It's not like other companies don't have warranties. Really, any place else would be better.

And like the other guy said, water cooling will be a hassle, especially if you would ever want to upgrade the video card. Replacing a video card is a necessity if you want to keep your [gaming] PC up to date in the future while avoiding a whole new PC.

 

[Wintermoot]

it will be WAAAY better your new system will be very quit (since it uses a liquid cooling system instead of a air cooling system)
you might have some problems with heavy games but I think the games on the list would work without any hiccups
also you don,t really need a special tech support replacing broken parts or upgrading the system isn't that hard the only thing you need to watch out for is static electricity

 

[Paragon Fury]

Current Laptop
Intel Duo Core T8300 @2.9GHz

NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT

285GB HDD

4GB RAM

Integrated Sound Card

Air Cooled



New Desktop
Intel® Core? i7-970 (12MB Cache) 3.23GHz

Dual 1GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon? HD 6870

Dual 1TB SATA 6Gb/s (7,200RPM) 32MB Cache

12GB RAM

Liquid Cooling

Updated with most recent information for comparison.