Computers - new vs upgrade

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Drake the Dragonheart

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My computer is from 2005/06. So yeah by computer standards my machine is bloody ancient. Been more than a few times I have wanted to give it a hands on introduction to gravity. There are a fair number of games on the PC I have been considering getting, but I doubt my system could handle most of them.

So I am asking the escapist community to help me come of with the pros and cons of getting a new computer vs trying to upgrade parts on what I have already got.

Cost is obviously one of my main concerns. Also, I don't want to lose any data/saves on my hard drive.

I use it primarily for playing games, watching videos here on the escapist moviebob's game overthinker on screw attack, occasionally printing characters sheets for role-playing, internet, and a small amount of word processing.
 

kaioshade

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Save the cash and build new. For the age of your machine, the amount of money you would spend upgrading it would not be worth it in the long run.

What is your budget?

And data loss is not a problem at all. save files and other things are trivial to back up.
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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It depends on what's inside, you may be able to salvage the case, fans, and potentially the motherboard and PSU. The data you have can be easily back up and transferred once your new machine is ready.

I would recommend a re-build to upgrade your graphics card and install some more RAM at the very least if not a complete restart from scratch.
 

Joccaren

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Drake the Dragonheart said:
My computer is from 2005/06. So yeah by computer standards my machine is bloody ancient. Been more than a few times I have wanted to give it a hands on introduction to gravity. There are a fair number of games on the PC I have been considering getting, but I doubt my system could handle most of them.

So I am asking the escapist community to help me come of with the pros and cons of getting a new computer vs trying to upgrade parts on what I have already got.

Cost is obviously one of my main concerns. Also, I don't want to lose any data/saves on my hard drive.

I use it primarily for playing games, watching videos here on the escapist moviebob's game overthinker on screw attack, occasionally printing characters sheets for role-playing, internet, and a small amount of word processing.
Alright, upgrading is ALWAYS cheaper. Even if its a 100% replacement of everything upgrade; you're not paying someone else to build it for you.
Did a similar thing with a similar rig two years back. A full replacement will be expensive. You can get a great rig for under $1000 though.
As for save data on the harddrive; 1. Keep the harddrive, and you'll keep the save data. Simple. 2. If you even just upgrade your computer to something modern, you will have to reinstall the OS [Motherboard upgrades do this. Its a pain], which means formatting and wiping one harddrive for the installation. If you have 2 harddrives, copy all files you want to keep to one [Not the whole game folder, just the saves and settings or W/E - you can just reinstall the game and copy in the rest later, whereas you are limited for space on a harddrive], wipe the other and install windows there, then copy across all the save files after reinstalling the games [You'll have to reinstall the games anyway thanks to reinstalling the OS, even if you have all the files and folders for one of them].

Anyway, pros and cons of three options;
New, store bought;
Pros:
-Easy. Very little effort on your behalf
-If you're willing to spend the money you can get a great rig
Cons:
-Expensive
-Possibly locked out of what you can get, and may get ripped off. Unless they offer the option of letting you choose the parts and then assembling it for you - which adds more work for you - you are limited in what you can get, and the high end rigs will come with components you really don't need - i7s for example.

Complete replacement of rig, built by self;
Pros:
-Complete control over rig and components in it. You will not get what you do not need
-No costs of assembly as you are assembling it yourself
-Can get a very powerful rig if you are willing to spend the money
Cons;
-Still relatively expensive. Less so than a Store bought rig, but more so than a simple upgrade
-Most difficult option. Not only do you have to choose all the parts, but you have to assemble a whole computer from scratch. Not as hard as it sounds, but is about 1-2 hours work.

Upgrade of only necessary parts;
Pros:
-Cheapest option. Since you [hopefully] won't be replacing everything, you won't be spending as much, and there are no assembly costs
-Fair level of control over your rig. You choose what goes in, but may be limited by your old hardware
Cons:
-Limited options for parts. If you don't do a near complete build replacement your motherboard will limit your options when it comes to some components. This will limit how much power gain you are able to get from the upgrade.
 

Doom972

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If it's from 2005/2006, then it probably doesn't have a quad-core CPU, nor a motherboard that supports one. If you want to be able to play future PC games, you should get a new PC. If you just want it for specific games, and have no interest in playing future PC games, check out their system requirements, and see for yourself if a small upgrade could be enough.

As for your save data, you can just backup the files.
 

Smooth Operator

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At this point you really need to go all new because tech has changed drastically, for CPU / MB / GPU / RAM at least, the rest is usually a good idea to transfer over if money is an issue.

I say save up 500-700$ and then hit online shops for a new set of organs, after that get some PC parts as well.
 

Yopaz

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Tenmar said:
A post full of good advice.
I was going to say a lot the same as this guy.

Your rig is probably too old for it to become an awesome computer just by switching out a few parts. You'll most likely need to gut it and salvage the parts that don't really matter on performance. You should check your power supply to see how much it can deliver, but I have a computer the same age as yours that I have upgraded a couple times and the PSU had to be replaced this summer so I do recommend looking into a new one.

Also if your old computer is a HP or another prebuilt kind then you might get some problems fitting a new PSU inside it. I know HP has some weird dimensions which didn't fit my chassis when I used one as backup.

I don't know how long hard drives are supposed to last, but as the guy above said you might want to get a new one for a main drive and use the others for storage.
 

Bad Jim

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A big factor is that we have the next generation consoles incoming. AAA games are built to console specs, which means that you can no longer get away with shoving a $50 graphics card in it and playing everything available.

Here is a handy tier list for GPUs

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

The next gen consoles will be equivalent to around Geforce 660Ti or Radeon 7870. They will probably give 1080p graphics at 30fps. If you want higher fps and/or 1440p resolution, you will want a better card, maybe two. If you want to save a few bucks, you might be able to get away with weaker cards if you are willing to lower the resolution or graphics settings. But don't push it.

It is likely that the demands of next gen gaming will spark further GPU development and after a couple of years we'll see affordable GPUs that make the GTX 690 look slow. So it may be an option to just look for a GPU that works and upgrade later.

Also the next gen will have 8GB of RAM. I suggest getting 16GB.